[DoubleJ]

1. Is a history of sexual abuse common for people who have anger management problems? Does post traumatic stress disorder from previous abuse play into things at all? I'm not necessarily suggesting "causation" here, just correlation.

2. Also, can Intermittent Explosive Disorder manifest itself in the form of sexual abuse towards someone else? For my purposes I am especially curious about a father with IER sexual abusing his teenage daughter. Is that more anger related or sexual deviancy related?

Thanks for your responses on this sensitive subject.

[Kiya]

Hi -
Well, you're not giving much to work with here...
I've never heard of IER (not that that means a whole lot) but I don't think that the two are necessarly tied. PTSD plays into many many things. But I think you're gonna have to talk with a professional about these questions. There are too many blanks.

Sexual abuse of other is all about CHOICE. Choosing to hurt others. End of story. You are not saying who the father is... nor who the daughter is. If you are the father, or know the father as a friend, try to get help for that person. There is counseling for abusers and programs to help.

If you are the daughter, find someone safe to tell and get help.

Regardless of who you are - hurting another is never ok, never justifed. If you think you will hurt someone, get help.

[DoubleJ]

Thanks for your response Kiya. I am neither the father nor the daughter in this situation, but I am a friend of the daughter and also a psychology major. Believe me, I think sexual abuse is terrible crime and, in my opinion, deserves similar legal punishment to some murder cases. However, in an effort to understand the family dynamic better, I am trying to put together some research and corresponding genetic irregularities that are expressed differently in men and women (see the link below).

http://ww1.cpa-apc.org:8080/Publicat...s/Teaching.asp

My purpose here is to see if others have recognized a similar phenomena and how these questions of dual-diagnosis are best treated.

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I'm surprised this poster hasn't been deleted yet .......

Highly insensitive to come onto this forum and ask such questions

For goodness sake we are tryng to heal here .... if you know someone is being abuse get her help ...... and please dont come in here triggering others ......you have NO RIGHT to barge in here asking questions .... if yu insist for goodness sake put a trigger icon up... what kind of psychology major is it that you come onto a support site to gain information for yourself?

People have been banned for less Jinny

[pachyderm]

He may be trying to help someone.

But still, read the guidelines on research on Psych Central and see if that is controlling here for your purposes, DoubleJ.

[bchlyn]

what are you going to use the information you are gathering for???? if it's to help someone and you know she is being abused the best way to help her is to report it... as for me i was abused and my issues don't inclued expressing anger... rather fearing anger.

[DoubleJ]

I sincerely apologize for intruding into your forum and potentially triggering some members. Although I am indeed a psych major, I used the term "research" very loosely because this is indeed a personal issue for me and it felt more comfortable to present it vaguely and professionally.

Truth be told, the victim in this situation is my closest female friend and the abuser was her father. The explicit abuse ended years ago but only now is her family prepared to confront it. She has also been in recovery for chemical dependency and is wondering how to approach her parents about family therapy. She has a somewhat functional relationship with her father at this point but clearly many things remain unsaid. I am in therapy with my father for similar issues, and I am trying to understand her situation better so I can best support her.

Again, I apologize for coming across as brash and inconsiderate. I sincerely do want to help my friend through this but at the same time am trying to manage my codependency issues with her. Any support would be helpful and much appreciated.

[Kiya]

I had a semi relationship with my dad (abuser) as well for years. I never told him what i remembered. I felt he would kill me. I never told him i am in therapy. I finally stopped contact with him 2 years ago. Eeven though the relationship was strained, and i "harped" on some of the more blatant aspects (physical, emotional abuse) he still cannot understand why I "the bad daughter" refuses to speak to him; "the best dad in the world who made some mistakes and said sorry for them".

If your friend is of legal age, i would probably encourage her to support herself in therapy without her family's infringement.
kiya

[bchlyn]

i think i agree with kiya at least in the beginning... none of my abusers ever admitted what they did... and i doubt they ever will... if we were in therapy together ... i wouldn't be safe enough to confront my issues... even if they had admitted what they did... i would imagine that it would be hard not to fall into the codependent roll of trying to take care of them and not myself... just my 2 cents...lyn

[Kiya]

Yeah - i never told my dad I'm in therapy. I never told him what i know and remember. I just walked away.

Twice he made references to the past, and as Lyn suggested, I fell right into his power, into the old roll, and denied it.

He's not someone I can be around and maintain any sort of health. Best, Kiya

[bchlyn]

for me i wish my abusers were held accountable ... i am not sure that i am or maybe ever will be ready for reconciliation in the truest sense... i want to get to the place of forgiveness... but not for them.... for me... if this father abused his daughter... he needs to be held accountable... and take responsibility for what he did... has that happened?... because i can't see how family t will help before that happens... just my thoughts on the matter.

right now... tonight i wish my abusers were taken to the city gates and stoned... doesn't sound much like forgiveness i know... but tonight i am really angry... lyn

[Kiya]

I'll meet you at the observation wall for the stoning.
(((((((lyn)))))))))