[venusss]

I do like political analyses. I do think human interaction is a lot like international relations in a way.

Some time ago somebody posted thread about us being the unlucky few percent. I argued that being born in a world where we don't risk death of cholera, civil wars and such... we are lucky.

I like to think of it as geopolitics. Can you think of PERFECT country which has it all? Italy may have food and sights and nature and hot men... but hell they had Berlusconi. Countries with good climate have usually sucky economy or are situated on faultlines. Countries with breathtaking landscapes have bad infrastructure, because it's hard as hell to build highways in breathtaking landscape...

Maybe being bipolar is like being born in place with bad geopolitics. Siberia. Bosnia. But people do travel to these places... they even sometimes envy their spirit and landscape and how tough those people are.

Maybe some can "immigrate" or change their situation. But maybe not. Countries that undergone transformation to more universally accepted systems always aren't better off and people talk about "good old times".

Maybe I am like a troubled place where tourists flock in summer but wouldn't want to live there forever.

All I know is that I don't judge countries like Bosnia for what they been through. Maybe it's same kinda of screwed upness as I sometimes experience on the inside.

[faerie_moon_x]

You know, this is pretty interesting and you can really make this analogy with all illness. But, I think some people do judge other countries based on their issues (like economy, how dangerous they are, etc.)

But I like the idea of thinking of myself as a vast landscape. Over here is the beautiful vista and over there is the swamp land...

[Setso]

Well its called a problem for a reason. People who seem to have it all still struggle with bipolar. Many famous people too like Britney spears and Demi lovato.
We are lucky in the sense we have more access to help though.

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[venusss]

Originally Posted by dark_heart_x

You know, this is pretty interesting and you can really make this analogy with all illness. But, I think some people do judge other countries based on their issues (like economy, how dangerous they are, etc.)

But I like the idea of thinking of myself as a vast landscape. Over here is the beautiful vista and over there is the swamp land...

People who judge without knowing miss a lot of beauty though.

[venusss]

Originally Posted by Setso

Well its called a problem for a reason. People who seem to have it all still struggle with bipolar. Many famous people too like Britney spears and Demi lovato.
We are lucky in the sense we have more access to help though.

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This is not what I am talking about though. Nobody has it all. Norway has oil. And long, killer winters. There is no perfect place to be born at.

I do have Britney on my tracklist and I do feel for her... but she never had it all. Her crazy mother dragged her through competitions and wanted her a star. That is not having it all. Maybe a shepherd in Montenegro has it better. At least they have access to lamb meat... I don't know who Demi is... I do know she is bipolar though as she was discussed here

Access to help? I don't know. We can pay arm and leg for a doctor... but maybe having access to shaman or priest would help more sometimes. Maybe having large community as they have in the not-oh-so-developed countries would prevent some of our allienation and problems that come from it.
Plus the whole heath care here SUCKS. Not so long ago doctors left their positions in protest of "low wages" and the military doctors had to step in their place. Mind you, I do live really in a first world country:/

[moremi]

I agree with Venus!!!

[faerie_moon_x]

Originally Posted by Setso

Well its called a problem for a reason. People who seem to have it all still struggle with bipolar. Many famous people too like Britney spears and Demi lovato.
We are lucky in the sense we have more access to help though.

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Well, this is only true for some. I supposedly live in the wealthiest nation in the world, yet I have absolutely 0 access to help at this time. And I have a full time job, health insurance, and all of that. But when it comes to my bipolar I still don't have the financial rescourses to get the help I need in this part of the world. It would actually be better if I were poorer, I could get help. I'm in that middle ground where you're too poor on your own and too rich for help....

But, I think one big thing we are lucky is that it is this day and age, and none of us are going to be locked up for the rest of our lives in an asylum, or have the old style treatments like insulin shock therapy....

And, Venus is right, no matter where you live there are problems. But some problems are worse than others.

[venusss]

I'm in that middle ground where you're too poor on your own and too rich for help....

Oh yeah that. Plus the "I have issues, but not enough to qualify for free care in the system".

But, I think one big thing we are lucky is that it is this day and age, and none of us are going to be locked up for the rest of our lives in an asylum, or have the old style treatments like insulin shock therapy....

Or burned on stake. Or sent to gas chambers... or uranium mines *shrugs*.

[hamster-bamster]

Originally Posted by VenusHalley

Some time ago somebody posted thread about us being the unlucky few percent. I argued that being born in a world where we don't risk death of cholera, civil wars and such... we are lucky.

I was the person who posted that thread. Since then, I have been given Prozac and my outlook has changed. (While you were away) I even posted that I ... rather like this illness - see here - so no, I do not count myself unlucky for THAT, I think it is a manageable illness. Me with and without Prozac are two different persons: Prozac makes the skies blue and the grass green for me.

[BlueInanna]

I live on the faultline literally and figuratively. (there's faultlines everywhere) But this symbolizes what I go through with my moods and emotions and relationships. Others may not want to be around me, yea I could be dangerous. The scenery and climate I offer is amazing and beautiful (**** stupid economy yea it sucks here), so I choose to stay on the faultline, those who love me risk it too. This is my one life in this body, on the faultline, here I am. It's worth the risk of the earth I might quake.

[venusss]

Originally Posted by BlueInanna

I live on the faultline literally and figuratively. (there's faultlines everywhere) But this symbolizes what I go through with my moods and emotions and relationships. Others may not want to be around me, yea I could be dangerous. The scenery and climate I offer is amazing and beautiful (**** stupid economy yea it sucks here), so I choose to stay on the faultline, those who love me risk it too. This is my one life in this body, on the faultline, here I am. It's worth the risk of the earth I might quake.

I live in freaking flood zone. Ironically some of the parts of country experience floods due to the fact people messed with the river flows and settled on wrong places... they messed with what should be left alone.

It's pretty symbolic to me... I may experience bad weather and all that, but right now it doesn't cause too much damage. I don't want to build dams and mess with what nature given me...

And as for politics? I am crazy chick born to crazy times.

[BlueInanna]

Originally Posted by VenusHalley

I live in freaking flood zone. Ironically some of the parts of country experience floods due to the fact people messed with the river flows and settled on wrong places... they messed with what should be left alone.

It's pretty symbolic to me... I may experience bad weather and all that, but right now it doesn't cause too much damage. I don't want to build dams and mess with what nature given me...

And as for politics? I am crazy chick born to crazy times.

Dams, and disfigurement of nature for the advancement of mankind's selfishness make me sad, mad, sick. It's the patriarchal age, and before this one was a matriarchal age, (Catholics think they worship Jesus, but it's the godess Mother Mary still there in the background, still being worshipped) I think the next age coming has to find the balance, and if it works out, could be pretty cool. If not, we keep coming back till we get it right.

Originally Posted by BlueInanna

If not, we keep coming back till we get it right.

I sure hope so!!!

[faerie_moon_x]

I live in the mountains, so all hills and vallies.... both emotionally and physically. I'm rather lumpy and covered in rocks, last year's snow, and trees.

The weather is pleasant. Too hot sometimes, too cold other times, occasional rain, hail, and blizzards, but mostly sunny.

And then, the economy is not so good. But, we get by as best we can.