[JoyDivision7680]

It's 16:25 here, where I live. I've been up since 8:30, and ever since I've been in a constant hypomania state, and I can't take it anymore!! Along with the 'usual' symptoms, I'm EXTREMELY agitated and feel like smashing someone's head off, I feel very hateful right now...And right when it gives signs of slowing down a bit, IT KICKS IN AGAIN!
Please, help me, it's my worst and longest episode! I feel like hanging myself more than ever right now...I think I'm having a panick attack too...

[catsrhelm]

Originally Posted by MotherMan

It's 16:25 here, where I live. I've been up since 8:30, and ever since I've been in a constant hypomania state, and I can't take it anymore!! Along with the 'usual' symptoms, I'm EXTREMELY agitated and feel like smashing someone's head off, I feel very hateful right now...And right when it gives signs of slowing down a bit, IT KICKS IN AGAIN!
Please, help me, it's my worst and longest episode! I feel like hanging myself more than ever right now...I think I'm having a panick attack too...

Please see a psychiatrist. You may need to get on a mood stabilizer. Good luck.

[venusss]

Try to relax and calm down. Deep breaths. Maybe a cup of some calming tea? (if you have majoram or oregano at home, feel free to use these... they have calming effects. Lemon balm or mint works too. So does valerian or catnip).

[JoyDivision7680]

I guess I'm gonna have to pay him another visit and get some meds...I'm still skeptical as far as meds are concerned...
The tea actually works, I'm doing a lot better now, many thanks!!

[Trippin2.0]

My hypomania turned ugly Saturday, I was able to fake being nice at my friends wedding even though I was swearing at other friends...

Today its been horrid, snapped at my daughter, which was a total overreaction, so I put in earphones, had the metal on max, and forced myself to sleep some of the agitation off.

There's a reason doctors sedate us, sleep helps to reset or atleast take the edge off.

Try something calming and soothing, if its at the point where you wanna slam your head into a wall, physical exhertion helps a TON, exercise, cleaning, dancing, your choice.

Hope you feel better soon

[Victoria'smom]

What treatment are you currently on? Do you have a therapist or psychiatrist?
For the panic attacks, agitation, and racing thoughts take a very low dose of melitonin (.5 or 1 mg)
Take up to 10 mg of melitonin to sleep
Set up systems to ovoid situations that are overly agitating. Ask here for help.
Take tim
Join a gym, karate, or boxing basiclly anything that you can hit things or run out your energy.
Write, write, write like crazy
Drink through a straw, it has the same calming effect as smoking
Take a really hot shower or bath to reduce stress
Have sex or use toys until you pass out (use protection)
Pour your self into a hobby
Get a therapist
If you have one use there suggestions. Ask them if it's time to call the psychiatrist
If you only have a psychiatrist and your appointment isn't soon then call
If you don't and want to try meds call and make an appointment
If your in crisis go to the ER

[JoyDivision7680]

I'm sorry you're going through a hard period yourself
Sedation is another reason I don't feel like taking meds; I just don't want to be put to sleep when it's not time, even though I could use a good sleep, since I'm having sleep problems again...
Usually, when I'm hypomanic and listening to music, I tend to shake my legs a lot. I think it's the best I can do since I lack physical energy almost all the time.
Best luck to you too

[thickntired]

Originally Posted by MotherMan

It's 16:25 here, where I live. I've been up since 8:30, and ever since I've been in a constant hypomania state, and I can't take it anymore!! Along with the 'usual' symptoms, I'm EXTREMELY agitated and feel like smashing someone's head off, I feel very hateful right now...And right when it gives signs of slowing down a bit, IT KICKS IN AGAIN!
Please, help me, it's my worst and longest episode! I feel like hanging myself more than ever right now...I think I'm having a panick attack too...

I know how you feel. I'm waiting for my seroquel to kick in and I'm just staying mad at the whole damn world. Everything makes me angry right now. I don't want to shower or leave the house. The only thing I look forward to is going to sleep at night. I agree about the tea - I drink sleepytime with valarian root and I have some valium. Therapy is making me angry too because I feel like it is a waste of time bc talking will not solve anything right away. I just want to go to sleep and wake up when this crap is over

[JoyDivision7680]

Originally Posted by Miguel'smom

What treatment are you currently on? Do you have a therapist or psychiatrist?
For the panic attacks, agitation, and racing thoughts take a very low dose of melitonin (.5 or 1 mg)
Take up to 10 mg of melitonin to sleep
Set up systems to ovoid situations that are overly agitating. Ask here for help.
Take tim
Join a gym, karate, or boxing basiclly anything that you can hit things or run out your energy.
Write, write, write like crazy
Drink through a straw, it has the same calming effect as smoking
Take a really hot shower or bath to reduce stress
Have sex or use toys until you pass out (use protection)
Pour your self into a hobby
Get a therapist
If you have one use there suggestions. Ask them if it's time to call the psychiatrist
If you only have a psychiatrist and your appointment isn't soon then call
If you don't and want to try meds call and make an appointment
If your in crisis go to the ER

I went to a psychiatrist only once and got my diagnosis; since October 2012 I'm seeing a therapist (since June we paused our therapy sessions, will begin them again in December), but not for any of my conditions.
Currently I don't take any meds. Can I get Melitonin without prescription?
That would be a little complicated, since I get stressed for no reason.
Used to practice fencing, not feeling well for any other sport at the moment.
I hate the way I write...
Didn't know that, thanks!
I can try, yeah!
Not for me, I haven't had any intimate relationship until now...
That helps indeed, but not all the time
I ought, but god knows how I'll be able to communicate well

Gee, thank you, you've sure given me a lot of methods I'll do my best and try them all

[JoyDivision7680]

Originally Posted by thickntired

I know how you feel. I'm waiting for my seroquel to kick in and I'm just staying mad at the whole damn world. Everything makes me angry right now. I don't want to shower or leave the house. The only thing I look forward to is going to sleep at night. I agree about the tea - I drink sleepytime with valarian root and I have some valium. Therapy is making me angry too because I feel like it is a waste of time bc talking will not solve anything right away. I just want to go to sleep and wake up when this crap is over

I'm starting to really dislike sleeping, it's so frustrating and horrible to fall asleep 2-3 hours after getting in bed and, like that wouldn't be enough, to wake up at 3 o'clock feeling very thirsty and confused and watching the walls and ceiling spinning and spinning and spinning...
I would go to therapy and talk about my problems, but the problem is I don't know how and I wouldn't feel comfortable and my therapist is annoying because when I first came to him (~Oct. 2012, mild depression) he told me I didn't have anything and other crap like that, just to keep asking me about my friends, family life, sex life (haha) and other things...It helped, yes, I got out of that depression, but that was all...

[Trippin2.0]

Originally Posted by MotherMan

I'm sorry you're going through a hard period yourself
Sedation is another reason I don't feel like taking meds; I just don't want to be put to sleep when it's not time, even though I could use a good sleep, since I'm having sleep problems again...
Usually, when I'm hypomanic and listening to music, I tend to shake my legs a lot. I think it's the best I can do since I lack physical energy almost all the time.
Best luck to you too

My nap helped take the edge off thanks. I'm snappish, but my daughter is safe from my venomous tongue.

Yeah, I hated being sedated too, even though it didn't last long. Buuut, since going without meds, I see why they feel the need to have us zonked out. Like I said, sleep (for me atleast) has a type of system reset effect. I just dont agree with being sedated all the time, and have learned how to take an unmedicated nap when I need to. Errr, sometimes I'm not so successful though and when I'm desperate enough I take a knock out pill or 4.

I hope you start feeling better too, it can't be easy having this pent up negative energy and no actual physical energy to expel it.

Try the calming teas, if the panic attacks are bad, a brown paper bag is super helpful, because essentially we choke / OD on oxygen and the bag helps get some needed carbon dioxide. If you don't smoke, the straw trick that MM mentioned is another good one for regulating your breathing. The methods are the same they teach us in therapy, I alternate between breathing exercises on the phone with my sister and smoking...

Hope this passes soon

[Trippin2.0]

Originally Posted by MotherMan

I'm starting to really dislike sleeping, it's so frustrating and horrible to fall asleep 2-3 hours after getting in bed

Sleep hygiene / sleep schedule / sleep ritual.

I think you need to implement these.

It took me on average 2hrs to fall asleep (my normal) and I also naturally / normally sleep on average for 4-5 hrs per night.

Now ordinarily, sleep was really a non - issue for me, but I realised that I needed to sleep between midnight and 2am in order to get my best sleep. Problem was falling asleep on time, and what helped me was employing these sneaky sleepy tricks.

Now it takes me about 45min to fall asleep

I have a sleep ritual, it took a few weeks to click in my brain, but now when I do X Y Z, my brain equates it with sleep, and will mostly shutdown for the night about an hour later.

Ps. Melatonin is a hormone supplement, available OTC. I use it sometimes when things are rough.

[thickntired]

Originally Posted by MotherMan

I'm starting to really dislike sleeping, it's so frustrating and horrible to fall asleep 2-3 hours after getting in bed and, like that wouldn't be enough, to wake up at 3 o'clock feeling very thirsty and confused and watching the walls and ceiling spinning and spinning and spinning...
I would go to therapy and talk about my problems, but the problem is I don't know how and I wouldn't feel comfortable and my therapist is annoying because when I first came to him (~Oct. 2012, mild depression) he told me I didn't have anything and other crap like that, just to keep asking me about my friends, family life, sex life (haha) and other things...It helped, yes, I got out of that depression, but that was all...

From what I've read waking up very early is a sign of depression. My therapist said there is such a thing as Irritable Depression where you also feel angry. That's unprofessional of yout therapist to try to diagnose you as not having anything. Therapists do not go to school to be able to diagnose a MI that is for a pdoc. It took me 3 times to finally find a therapist that I could talk to, so that's common I believe. The only thing I've been half way enjoying is reading because I can escape and do it without drugs & booze.

[JoyDivision7680]

I've been thinking of trying to sleep only between 10pm and 2am for a few days, maybe a week. I heard one feels totally re-energised following that schedule, in comparison with another one who sleeps from midnight to 8am.
You're right, I need a sleep ritual, maybe that way I'll finally wake up in the morning without feeling exhausted

[JoyDivision7680]

Originally Posted by thickntired

From what I've read waking up very early is a sign of depression. My therapist said there is such a thing as Irritable Depression where you also feel angry. That's unprofessional of yout therapist to try to diagnose you as not having anything. Therapists do not go to school to be able to diagnose a MI that is for a pdoc. It took me 3 times to finally find a therapist that I could talk to, so that's common I believe. The only thing I've been half way enjoying is reading because I can escape and do it without drugs & booze.

I see what he was trying to do; (probably) I was going through a so-called teen depression, and he only wanted to calm me down, but he kinda went too far ignoring my issues. He blamed it on my lack of communication - in fact that's what we usually talked during sessions. He wouldn't understand I don't like to communicate that much. He used to say that the reason I was there, in his cabinet, is to learn to know myself - bull! Poor man, sometimes when I'm angry I kinda like to run out my anger on him He doesn't know, of course.
The only thing I can enjoy is music, that's all. If only I could sit all day listening to it...

[Jcon614]

Originally Posted by thickntired

I know how you feel. I'm waiting for my seroquel to kick in and I'm just staying mad at the whole damn world. Everything makes me angry right now. I don't want to shower or leave the house. The only thing I look forward to is going to sleep at night. I agree about the tea - I drink sleepytime with valarian root and I have some valium. Therapy is making me angry too because I feel like it is a waste of time bc talking will not solve anything right away. I just want to go to sleep and wake up when this crap is over

You could be speaking for me, TNT... I don't want to shower or leave the house. The only thing I look forward to is going to sleep at night.

The problem, among others, is that I can't even sleep more than 2.5 hours! Take trazodone 50 and melatonin 3 mg, but lay awake most of the night.

[vans1974]

When I'm in a dysphoric mania- I have to take a benzo and try to sleep in a pitch black room. Best of luck! The aap's like Latuda help me avoid that dangerous state!

[Jcon614]

Originally Posted by vans1974

When I'm in a dysphoric mania- I have to take a benzo and try to sleep in a pitch black room. Best of luck! The aap's like Latuda help me avoid that dangerous state!

I hear u about the pitch black room. I don't have benzos to take, they helped so much in the past, but pdoc won't prescribe. I would like more info on Latuda. I was prescribed that but haven't taken it yet. Does it help with sleep?

[thickntired]

Originally Posted by Jcon614

I hear u about the pitch black room. I don't have benzos to take, they helped so much in the past, but pdoc won't prescribe. I would like more info on Latuda. I was prescribed that but haven't taken it yet. Does it help with sleep?

My AA sponsor was given Latuda and with her medicare it cost around $1K to fill!!! I had to go off Abilify for the same reasons - it cost a fortune. I had nightmares in the hospital when I took trazadone for sleep so now I take amytriptoline (spell?). It is an older medication for insomnia/anxiety/pain & depression and it is really cheap. The seroquel also makes me sleepy and costs one dollar a month on medicare. My new pdoc won't give me any benzo's bc they are so addictive, and frankly you build a tollerance in like a week. The ones I have are left overs from my last pdoc and my new pdoc has no idea

Peace,

TnT

[Jcon614]

Originally Posted by thickntired

My AA sponsor was given Latuda and with her medicare it cost around $1K to fill!!! I had to go off Abilify for the same reasons - it cost a fortune. I had nightmares in the hospital when I took trazadone for sleep so now I take amytriptoline (spell?). It is an older medication for insomnia/anxiety/pain & depression and it is really cheap. The seroquel also makes me sleepy and costs one dollar a month on medicare. My new pdoc won't give me any benzo's bc they are so addictive, and frankly you build a tollerance in like a week. The ones I have are left overs from my last pdoc and my new pdoc has no idea

Peace,

TnT

Well that blew me away... I could not afford Latuda then, though pdoc gave me a sample to try. Why does this stuff have to be so freaking expensive? I am so depressed now. Hate this

I hope you feel better soon.

[reesecups]

First, I am having the same problems staying asleep, even though my hypomania ended Sunday night. I am not depressed. Though I've suffered from insomnia for nearly 35 years. I've practiced good sleep hygiene for a long time now. Does help to get me to sleep but will not keep me asleep. I eventually built up such a high tolerance for everything my pdoc gave me to sleep.., and trust me, it was a lot. Vaping mmj might help me get to sleep but is not good at keeping me asleep. When I was hypomanic, the only thing that could make me sleep for a while was 2mg of Xanax. I've seldom been taking Xanax so my tolerance was lower than if use to be. I took it until the mania was gone. Right now, the lack if sleep usually frustrates me but for right now, it's not even bothering me. (Don't know why).

Good luck!

[JoyDivision7680]

Ouch, being insomniac for such a long time seems really irritating...I honestly hope you'll work things out eventually. Good luck to you too!

[reesecups]

Originally Posted by MotherMan

Ouch, being insomniac for such a long time seems really irritating...I honestly hope you'll work things out eventually. Good luck to you too!

Thanks, but frankly I've pretty much given up on ever having a full night sleep because it seldom happens. Usually drives me crazy, but at the moment, it's not bothering me, thank goodness.