[BlueInanna]

It's so lame. Not being able to sleep. I read it will increase dopamine levels in my brain - bonus! But I'm not doing it on purpose. Slept a few hours but know its not enough to be able to work tomorrow high functioning. Took benzo's, ambien, Benadryl, but nope. Nothing happened not a sound. Might take pdoc up on the offer of latuda med for sleep. I'm at her mercy, my life is not manageable right now. I need to function. My house is a wreck. I'm a horrible routine cleaner. I have to get back to work. That evil baby teletubby sunshine will be here again laughing at me in about an hour. (Where's Anika with that photo lol!)
So it's crunch time. ... I don't make it to work I'm pretty much screwed big time. Unless little evil genius section of my brain comes up with something quick.
Oh ya and I'm recovering from pneumonia. On antibiotics & inhalers. I quit smoking - been 6 weeks now! Yayyy! And I hurt my elbow on Halloween when my dancing partner dressed in a fat suit fell over right on me. . So many thoughts so little time. I want the headaches to stop, I think it's become a sinus infection now.

[Moose72]

Wow thats a lot. No sleep cant be helping your lungs.

[Trippin2.0]

Oh sis! You poor beautiful beautiful creature!
So sorry you're body and mind are ganging up against you, but YAY for quitting the smokes! (says the hypocrite )

I think you should let your pdoc know that sleep isn't happening, like you said, its required for you to be able to function, and function you are required to do.

You'll beat this thing, you're a Warrior Princess remember? One that has conquered every battle before, and one that will beat the shyt out of this one too. You're just way too amazing not to.

Remember to set aside time just for you. Even an hour, to take care of you, be NICE to YOU. You're worth every damn ounce of effort!

I'm here, and on fb, and listening if you want my kinda ears

Love you bunches and keeping you in prayer.

[gayleggg]

Not being able to sleep sucks. I'm having the same problem. I see my pdoc on Tuesday and will have to talk to him about it. When I was on Seroquel XR I was sleeping 14 hours a day and now that I went off that I'm not sleeping but a couple of hours a night. Hope you get some relief soon.

[vans1974]

Hey BlueInanna-insomnia sucks! I sleep great taking Trazodone and Neurontin together! Best of luck!

[Jcon614]

Originally Posted by vans1974

Hey BlueInanna-insomnia sucks! I sleep great taking Trazodone and Neurontin together! Best of luck!

I take trazodone 50 and neurontin (gabapentin) 1600 mg at night and only sleep for 3 hours! I need to sleep so badly. Would Benadryl help on top of what I'm taking?

[BlueInanna]

Thanks All! Yea maybe I should try trazedone... But pdoc is uptight about letting me back on anything with anti depressant qualities in it. I sure miss my Wellbutrin - that was a good time! So of course I fell asleep right before alarm went off. Stayed awake since got son off to school. Tried to do some work. Tried to figure out how to clean my house. Took half a modifinil/Provigil. First time trying it. Pdoc wrote me for it since I'm not allowed adderall anymore. Nothing amazing as far as results. I'm not alert & focusing like with adderall. But then again I didn't get enough sleep & adderall would be the same. Doesn't work great if you're overly tired or sick - I'm both right now.

I did shower finally. Had to yell at myself to do it. Now I'm sitting here all wet overwhelmed at the thought of brushing my wet hair & finding clean clothes that I still fit into. It's gross, I'm gross, how'd I let it all become this bad mess. So so overwhelmed. No idea how to wrap my head around the messes & find a solution. Didn't make it to my office today, maybe tomorrow will be better? At least I showered? Ugh I am disgusted with myself.
Sorry for the rant, I'm not thinking straight. Sinuses hurt pretty bad.

[nbritton]

Originally Posted by BlueInanna

Oh ya and I'm recovering from pneumonia. On antibiotics & inhalers

Inhaler? A steroid inhaler? Stop taking it immediately, you're on the precipice of a steroid induced episode. This is why you can't sleep. Also, if you're taking pseudoephedrine, stop that as well. No steroids, no pseudoephedrine, and no more Benadryl.

Trazedone is an antidepressant, antidepressants are generally contraindicated in patients with bipolar disorder.

[BlueInanna]

I'm trying to get over bronchitis & pneumonia & have slight asthma, couldn't breathe. Hence the inhaler much needed. . I avoid using it at night cuz I know they can have stimulating effect, not my first time needing one. I'm also on amoxicillin. But it doesn't seem strong enough to beat this thing. Now sinuses becoming trouble - I'm going to try to buy a neti-pot today hopefully Whole Foods has it - everyone swears by the neti-pot.

[nbritton]

Originally Posted by BlueInanna

I'm trying to get over bronchitis & pneumonia & have slight asthma, couldn't breathe. Hence the inhaler much needed. . I avoid using it at night cuz I know they can have stimulating effect, not my first time needing one. I'm also on amoxicillin. But it doesn't seem strong enough to beat this thing. Now sinuses becoming trouble - I'm going to try to buy a neti-pot today hopefully Whole Foods has it - everyone swears by the neti-pot.

But with the bronchitis & pneumonia are you using the inhaler a lot more? I'm thinking you have unwittingly increased your dosage to a level that is triggering these symptoms. Talk to your doctor about alternatives. Corticosteroid psychosis: Stop therapy or add psychotropics?Â*:Â*Current Psychiatry

[~Christina]

Awwww Blue

Seriously pat yourself on the back for just surviving all this mess . You are not disgusting !!!
As far as all that illness ,,, good grief .. Yeah maybe Amox isnt going to be enough to knock it out . Inhalers ? Yes you need to breathe so continue using ( as you know to)

As always take time to be kind to you... Sleep whenever you can at this point.

Sending you love and gentle hugs

[Jcon614]

Originally Posted by nbritton

Inhaler? A steroid inhaler? Stop taking it immediately, you're on the precipice of a steroid induced episode. This is why you can't sleep. Also, if you're taking pseudoephedrine, stop that as well. No steroids, no pseudoephedrine, and no more Benadryl.

Trazedone is an antidepressant, antidepressants are generally contraindicated in patients with bipolar disorder.

What is wrong with Benadryl????

[vans1974]

-Benadryl or Tynelol PM will help, or Sonota 40mg, or even Flexerall or Zanaflex!! Best wishes!!

[nbritton]

Originally Posted by Jcon614

What is wrong with Benadryl????

Serotonin reuptake inhibitors are contraindicated in patients with bipolar disorder.

Quoting Wikipedia:

"In the 1960s, Benadryl (diphenhydramine) was found to inhibit reuptake of the neurotransmitter serotonin.[1] This discovery led to a search for viable antidepressants with similar structures and fewer side-effects, culminating in the invention of fluoxetine (Prozac), a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI).[1][2]"

[1]: History of Modern Psychopharmacology: A Personal View With an Emphasis on Antidepressants
[2]: Serotonin Reuptake Inhibition by Diphenhydramine Can Result in Serotonin Syndrome

For the aforementioned reason, its use should be limited in patients with bipolar disorder. Here is one more additional reference, Tanaka 2011: Diphenhydramine overdose mimicking serotonin syndrome. Individuals with a known sensitivity to antidepressants should avoid it, as well as amitriptyline and trazodone.

Furthermore, Benadryl alters normal sleep architecture, this is why many report feeling groggy in the morning after taking this drug. I can't find a direct citation, but the following research abstract hints at what I'm referring to: Depression, sleep physiology, and antidepressant drugs.

[~Christina]

So I guess all the doctors that tell patients to try benadryl if they cant sleep are wrong?

Futhermore Blue is sick , very much so and I think her use of inhalers is correct as in you need to breathe to live .

Just saying ~

[nbritton]

Originally Posted by ~Christina

So I guess all the doctors that tell patients to try benadryl if they cant sleep are wrong?

Futhermore Blue is sick , very much so and I think her use of inhalers is correct as in you need to breathe to live .

Just saying ~

Yes, and breathing is overrated.

I think the reality is many simply don't know that Benadryl is active against serotonin. Moreover, many still don't understand antidepressants are generally contraindicated in patients with bipolar disorder. The extent of training that a typical physician receives in mood disorders is limited to major depressive disorder. In this instance, Benadryl, and other sedative antidepressants help treat the primary depression. In bipolar disorder it opposite is often true. Susceptibility to drug induced mental states is rare in the general population.

Blue doesn't have to decide between breathing and steroid induced mental states, she can go to the doctor and get something different.

[BlueInanna]

My doc said it was ok to take Benadryl & I trust them. They mainly advised not drinking while on the sleep meds. But after all the wiki quoting I wish I had a bottle of wine...!!. Some shots of that red hot fireball stuff, I wish... I don't even have any cough syrup left. . I'd even take jaigermeister bleh nastiest stuff ever lol.

Wiki guy, thanks for trying to help but I've had these sleep problems a long time, and asthma too, not my first rodeo. .

So I did the dishes growling profanities and swept the floors and hours of homework with the boy. I did what I thought I couldn't do! And I hated every minute of it! But I noticed the reward feeling when the looming task is complete, and thought - I need to remember this feeling - this is the Ahhh relief feeling - and it's hope. Depression clouded everything, and I'm gonna kick it in the a.s.s. just like every other episode I will survive this one. Yes we start singing now - I will survive!!!

[IndieVisible]

Trazodone does not work accept for people who really don't need it lol. It doesn't matter how much of that I take all it will do is make me yawn but not sleep. Honestly if ambien and benzo's don't do it forget about trazodone.

When you find some thing that works please share and post what worked for you. Good luck!

[Alokin]

Originally Posted by IndieVisible

Trazodone does not work accept for people who really don't need it lol. It doesn't matter how much of that I take all it will do is make me yawn but not sleep. Honestly if ambien and benzo's don't do it forget about trazodone.

When you find some thing that works please share and post what worked for you. Good luck!

Really? Trazadone and any AD knock me out!

[IndieVisible]

Originally Posted by Alokin

Really? Trazadone and any AD knock me out!

Really! I've taken 200mg trazodone and it did the same as 50mg for me. Just made me yawn. Keep in mind we are all different. I wish it did knock me out. I usually have to take around 2mg of xanax and then it takes about 1 to 2 hrs for me to fall asleep. But hate to use my xanax for sleep cuz I need it for anxiety.

[avlady]

I am also on my 2nd night of no sleep, the first was because i had to be sleep deprived for an EEG i got done. The time change is also a factor for me. I do have a 5 mg a day's worth of diazapam,so i might take one now.I hope you can get some ZZZZ"ss

[BlueInanna]

Good luck both of us avlady hope results of eeg are ok.

Taking my ambien now. Dumb sugar pill lol. I may try the latuda prn. I'm just going thru a hard time. Some mommys little helper pills are called for. I've also gone down from 3mg klonopin/day to 2mg/day. There's a lot of factors. I have huge kid issues going on, hard times. It may not be best time to reduce the klon...

I liked trazedone when I tried it before - my mom gave me hers to try before I ever went to a doc. Maybe just a couple weeks worth but it did help me sleep.

Hopefully I won't be back again 4am crying insomnia tonight!

[Anika.]

I'm sorry Blue really hoping you can sleep without any 4am visits here. I know how much that sucks. This video is better than any picture, I know you will enjoy it after the shock If you can't sleep at least you might be entertained a bit. Can't say it will help you sleep and perhaps reasons why I sleep so little.

Love you much as always

[Fuzzybear]

[BlueInanna]

Anika hahhahaha!!!!
Perfecto, thank you love those too funny!!!!
I slept so much past couple days. My body is fighting off this virus hard. Scrubbed bathrooms, changed sheets, still scared off the germies & don't want kids to get sick. I think this coming week might be able to get back to work, much anxiety but I have to do this. Younger sons bday coming up 1 week after older sons, daughter looking at possible jail time over thanksgiving for not fully quitting pot . I need to function & make money. And so much always to be done. I start obsessing on it at night, mixed up racing thoughts when I'm so physically tired. I'm yawning this is good.