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Old Jan 19, 2016, 09:28 PM
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Why it's so damn hard to find a new pdoc in the US? The way my family's insurance plan works makes it so confusing to find a reputable pdoc who's accepting new patients.

What about therapists? Does anyone have any tips on how to find a good T in the US? I live in a major metropolitan suburb, I feel like it shouldn't be this hard ffs.
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Old Jan 19, 2016, 09:30 PM
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I'm having the hardest time too! My insurance is the worst!
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Old Jan 19, 2016, 09:36 PM
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I'm having the hardest time too! My insurance is the worst!
I'm glad I'm not alone! Also one thing that particularly frustrates me is that the way the insurance company lists psychiatrists doesn't make it obvious whether or not they work out of their own offices or if they are staffed at hospitals (I assume a hospital pdoc isn't going to be taking new outpatient clients on the side). And then of course when you click on a pdoc's name it just brings up the location of where they work but doesn't have any info about how to contact them or what their websites are blah blah blah blah blarghhhh so frustratingggg
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Old Jan 19, 2016, 09:48 PM
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Omg yes!! And how my insurance...I have Kaiser through work which I hate. But I have the flex choice option where I can see doctors outside of Kaiser (I hate kaiser doctors). But trying to find those for behavioral health...pretty much non existant. And the website never has updated information for affiliated providers..
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Old Jan 19, 2016, 09:55 PM
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I don't know why! I couldn't find a psychiatrist for the life of me when I moved! Even my psychiatrist didn't really have any suggestions, and she looked for me!
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Old Jan 19, 2016, 10:06 PM
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just go ip ... that's where I got mine ... or he got stuck with me ... all in how you look at it ...
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There is one pdoc on my insurance companies website as covered. He's dead. Apparently passed away awhile ago of old age. Keeping his listing on the website only makes sense if he returns from the grave and wants to continue his practice.
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Old Jan 19, 2016, 10:11 PM
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I can also say I have heard from several reputable sources that pdoc is a pretty unpopular speciality in med school. (Difficult and demanding work, low to no prestige, and for a specialist md quite low pay) I know in my town which has a Med school with a psych specialist program there is always a huge shortage of pdocs. I waited four months to get my latest. But I have waited over six months one time. Thankfully my GP gave me scrips to get through that wait. I was lucky. If she hadn't, I would have been out of luck on getting any meds short of hospitalizing myself. That seems an expensive and ineffective way to get refills.
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just go ip ... that's where I got mine ... or he got stuck with me ... all in how you look at it ...
Definitely worth that $5000 bill ....
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Old Jan 19, 2016, 10:23 PM
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Definitely worth that $5000 bill ....
try 40,000 a full month including op
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There is one pdoc on my insurance companies website as covered. He's dead. Apparently passed away awhile ago of old age. Keeping his listing on the website only makes sense if he returns from the grave and wants to continue his practice.
Wow that's worse than mine that just has a list of Pdocs that no longer accept them. I had to go to the county's mental health care to get a pdoc.
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 04:16 PM
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try 40,000 a full month including op
Yeahhh..... **** that noise.

BTW: What's it like being IP that long? The only time i was IP it was for like 5-6 days and unbelievably boring and tedious.
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 05:17 PM
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Yeahhh..... **** that noise.

BTW: What's it like being IP that long? The only time i was IP it was for like 5-6 days and unbelievably boring and tedious.
was only 7 days ip , then a month of all day op ... my insurance gave me that number ... i have no idea why so much ... it was 8 to 5 every day ... saw pdoc every day .. maybe that was why IDK... it was covered on my wife's plan ... trust me back then I was doing good just to get to the meeting every day ... no idea what was happening around me ... maybe because it was a private psych hospital ... ?
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 05:30 PM
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That's because the insurance providers screw over psychiatrists by making it really hard for them to get paid. Instead of dealing with that, a lot of psychiatrists are now cash pay only doctors. So as a result, the pdocs that still take insurance are stupid busy and very hard to get appointments with.

Psychiatrists that don't take insurance are pretty easy to find and get an appointment with quickly though. I pay $160 a visit to see mine. I try really hard to only need to go every 3 months due to cost. Plus side is having his cell #.

It just goes to show how broken mental health care is in the US. So many people who need the care can't get appointments. Someone who is on disability, losing jobs, or run up massive debt can't pay out-of-pocket to see a pdoc. But they may be the ones that need the care the most! Go figure!
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 05:34 PM
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I drive 2.5 hours to see mine. I do live in a very, very rural area so some of that is to be expected. But when I was trying to find someone (13 years ago) I could only find 1 person in the city I lived in then (an hour away) that would accept a bipolar patient. They put me on the waiting list. I'm beginning to think that wasn't true.

Don't throw out pdocs at hospitals. Mine is at a hospital and has a hospital address and does OP along with a lot more drs in that hospital; it's just how that particular hospital works. It's still worth calling to be sure.
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In Australia you pretty much don't get seen unless your in crisis. It's a joke.
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 05:35 PM
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There are all sorts of studies you might be able to get into as a patient. These are usually free because you're helping them build a database or helping a med student/PhD candidate qualify for a degree. A lot of them are linked to CBT.

Ask your GP about them. If you're near a teaching hospital, there should be a few running. You might need a referral for these but in absence of a pdoc, it's a start.

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Old Jan 20, 2016, 05:38 PM
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I had a lot of trouble too! Shortage of pdocs around here too. I want a new one, but there aren't any available who are accepting new patients!
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