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Old Apr 05, 2017, 06:03 PM
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I don't believe my pdoc.

I'm severely depressed and he claims that boosting my antidepressant "will make things worse". Huh?

I already want to off myself and came close to doing it last night, so I can't imagine feeling any worse than I do. I'd gladly take the risk.

He wants to boost my Seroquel dosage, which will likely knock me on my @ss. Short term, it may help, but I'm thinking long term with an antidepressant as a preventative measure.
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Old Apr 05, 2017, 06:22 PM
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My pdoc and I have gone back and forth on this exact discussion. His fear and in my own personal research, depression can be made worse for those with bipolar disorder if taking an antidepressant. He has me on a mood stabilizer which does help.
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Old Apr 05, 2017, 06:26 PM
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Soo sorry you are feeling this way,bluebicycle. It is hard when the pdoc is trying to adjust your "cocktail". I had tremendous issues with antidepressants 16-18yrs ago,back then i probably tried somrwhere between 10-15,all with horribke side egfects,wprse symptoms at times or mot helping...finally,my pdoc tried old school med-elavil. I say this to let you know,yes,sometimes you can get worse on antidepressants without something else to valance it...they gave me gabapentin-ahain-not usual as a mood stabilizer...but many other types od meds made me worse
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Old Apr 05, 2017, 06:27 PM
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I won't take SSRI's because of side effects which leaves Wellbutrin for a dopamine boost. Well I can only use Wellbutrin for a short period until my head clears or it makes me crazy angry and aggravated. Just made a post about this issue and about my pdocs orders too. Blah it's a mess.
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Old Apr 05, 2017, 06:28 PM
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He may feel an antidepressant might set off mania or a mixed episode which would only complicate matters.
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Old Apr 05, 2017, 06:37 PM
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I don't believe my pdoc.

I'm severely depressed and he claims that boosting my antidepressant "will make things worse". Huh?

I already want to off myself and came close to doing it last night, so I can't imagine feeling any worse than I do. I'd gladly take the risk.

He wants to boost my Seroquel dosage, which will likely knock me on my @ss. Short term, it may help, but I'm thinking long term with an antidepressant as a preventative measure.
Hi Blue, Did your pdoc say just how an antidepressant would make things worse for you? There's always some concern when prescribing antidepressants when someone deals with BP. Often, the concern is provoking mania.

I deal with BP II and I feel worse on a lot of antidepressants. I don't tend to experience mania; I tend to become even more depressed. My depression is very "treatment-resistant."

I am sorry you are having such a difficult time.
I hope you can find relief AND live your life.

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Old Apr 05, 2017, 06:40 PM
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Zoloft put me in the hospital. Wellbutrin has been.. very good. But might be going the wrong way about now.
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Old Apr 05, 2017, 06:45 PM
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I personally cannot take ssri's without an AP on board because I go manic. But with the right AP I'm fine. But, blue, can you trust yourself to be honest if you do start to go manic on anAD? I know you had trouble with misusing adderall. I think an AD is worth a try but you have to be willing to be honest with yourself and your pdoc if you start to get too high.
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Old Apr 05, 2017, 07:58 PM
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Blue, has this started since you started the Ritalin?
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Old Apr 05, 2017, 08:09 PM
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the only ad he will let me have is lamictal ... thankfully it has worked fairly well ... an ad put me ip ... so no more for me ...
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Old Apr 05, 2017, 09:27 PM
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AD's in all different classes make me manic/mixed. I've tried atypical AD's, SSRIs, SNRIs...and both pdocs I've had in recent times declared no more AD's for me, even with mood stabilizers. I can take Lamictal though, but that's technically a mood stabilizer, so at least there's that to help with the depression, while still not setting off mania.
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Old Apr 06, 2017, 03:40 AM
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AD's don't work for me. They usually send me hypomanic then mixed and then back to depressed. I have tried most of the classes except Wellbutrin. Sometimes some depressive symptoms are relieved but it is always temporary, then the fun begins.
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Old Apr 06, 2017, 11:11 AM
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Yep, my pdoc won't prescribe them to me, I end up suicidal and ip every time we've tried.
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Old Apr 06, 2017, 11:18 AM
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Ads? Nope, no way, no how, I won't take em. Throw me right into a mixed mood state that's hell. Far as I'm concerned ADs aught to be branded dangerous and illegal .
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Old Apr 06, 2017, 11:35 AM
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Old Apr 06, 2017, 02:46 PM
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Ads? Nope, no way, no how, I won't take em. Throw me right into a mixed mood state that's hell. Far as I'm concerned ADs aught to be branded dangerous and illegal .
I feel the same way. Its funny, when I didn't understand what was going on last year, I wanted an antidepressant pretty badly because that D was bad, and I didn't think I had BP.

Now.. NOPE. I made me some notes. If D comes back, I'll do therapy or whatever so my doc knows someone's regularly watching me, and rely on the stabilizer and AP. It was the paranoia that blew my depression out of proportion last time anyway. If the AP kills that, I might even keep working.
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Old Apr 06, 2017, 03:22 PM
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On antidepressants alone, I rapid cycle more and have mania. But with seroquel and abilify, I think I'm more leveled out/stable.

Wellbutrin was the worst alone.. I had serious rage like the hulk and couldn't sleep well..

This other one I can't remember the name sent me seriously manic. I ended up being hospitalized for mania. Was taken off that quickly and diagnosed with Bipolar.

Then pristiq made me hypomanic and I slept with a roommate who was engaged to be married.

...so I don't get antidepressants without mood stabilizers/antipsychotics.
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Old Apr 06, 2017, 03:22 PM
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The last time I was IP I was given Viibryd along with Latuda. When I got home my anxiety went through the roof. Went off Viibryd and scaled down Latuda. I've been stable for almost nine months now.

I can't take most ADs because I don't metabolize them well. I get lots of sweating and migraines.
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