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valium, klonopin, xanax, ativan, restoril, are all examples among others.
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flowerbells, you do not think those are anxiety symptoms???? My anxiety manifests in the same way, feeling overwhelmed and angry (for me I would say irritable, but people call me angry). yeah, people see angry in me, too, but at these exremes I have had lately,it's sure more than "irritable."

I never thought I was depressed before too. I and permanently agitated during my low episodes, but I get SI and have tried too.

I never thought I was manic before as well. I thought everyone felt famous. Yeah, what we know personally seems like it's that way for everyone. I used to think everyone was up and down like me. I didn't know there are actually people that live pretty level moods all the time. I never even met any until later in life.
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Thank you. I just talked to the pdoc's nurse at the new clinic where I go, and she said, "This clinic does not prescribe benzodiazapines because they are a conrolled substance." So I asked for Zyprexa, and maybe can get that on Monday for walk-in appointment. I'll post a question about that in a new post on this thread.

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Benzodiazepines are a class of drugs primarily used for treating anxiety, but they also are effective in treating several other conditions. The exact mechanism of action of benzodiazepines is not known, but they appear to work by affecting neurotransmitters in the brain, chemicals that nerves release in order to communicate with other nearby nerves. One of these neurotransmitters is gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA), a neurotransmitter that suppresses the activity of nerves. Scientists believe that excessive activity of nerves may be the cause of anxiety and other psychological disorders, and benzodiazepines reduce the activity of nerves in the brain and spinal cord by enhancing the effects of GABA.

For what conditions are benzodiazepines used?

Benzodiazepines are used for treating:
  • anxiety and panic
  • seizures (convulsions), and
  • insomnia or trouble sleeping.
They also are used for:
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Does anyone know if Zyprexa is used as a prn anti-anxiety med?
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Does anyone know if Zyprexa is used as a prn anti-anxiety med?
It can be, but you might have a fight on your hands getting it. Most Drs prefer to prescribe SSRIs or other drugs like gabapentin/pregabalin etc as every day meds before resorting to APs. But maybe they will since they categorically won't prescribe benzos... PRN Zyprexa would likely help the rage and make you sleep for a bit until you felt calmer as its a major tranquilliser.

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Does anyone know if Zyprexa is used as a prn anti-anxiety med?
It can be. Once you get on the right dosage one pill at night should get you through the next day with minimal symptoms. YMMV
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Old Aug 03, 2017, 04:17 PM
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Zyprexa is good. It's too bad your pdoc won't prescribe Xanax or Klonopin. Both of those work well for anxiety and for irritability. My pdoc said that with the opioid problem, prescribers are getting nervous and are scared of prescribing benzos as well. Thankfully, my pdoc does. I hope you find something that works for you.
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It can be, but you might have a fight on your hands getting it. Most Drs prefer to prescribe SSRIs or other drugs like gabapentin/pregabalin etc as every day meds before resorting to APs. But maybe they will since they categorically won't prescribe benzos... PRN Zyprexa would likely help the rage and make you sleep for a bit until you felt calmer as its a major tranquilliser.

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Thanks, Willow. I have a "pre-history" -- in that, the hospital rx'd Zyprexa for me. So the pdoc's nurse thinks maybe the pdoc will r/x it.
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I managed to get a clonazepam prescription just recently, from an IP doctor, but told my IOP doctor I didn't want to be on it because I had a horrible time getting off it before, so he was more than happy to take me off it! He was thrilled. He put me on librium to go off it. I'm still taking the librium. Not a lot though. Just 10mg at night before bed. I'm not sure if it's doing anything though. I don't think I'm on a high enough dose. I'll probably ask to go off that too, so I can be completely benzodiazepine free.

It's just lousy because those are the only things that work for my anxiety completely.

I have to second trying lamictal. Before I started lamictal I was angry and irritated every day of my life, and when I started it a lot of that went away.

Zyprexa can really make you gain weight, so I'd watch out for that if you get your zyprexa prescription. I was only on that for a week and gained fifteen pounds. Seriously. It was awful. I went off it.
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Oh I know! Have you ever tried propranolol? That calms me down. And it's not addictive at all. And there's no withdrawal if you decide to just stop taking it.
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I took librium in high school for a short time. It didn't do thing one for me. "I'm still taking the librium. Not a lot though. Just 10mg at night before bed. I'm not sure if it's doing anything though. I don't think I'm on a high enough dose. I'll probably ask to go off that too, so I can be completely benzodiazepine free. "

"It's just lousy because those are the only things that work for my anxiety completely." If this clinic does not solve my problem, since they won't rx benzodiazapines by rule, I may have to change clinics.

"I have to second trying lamictal. Before I started lamictal I was angry and irritated every day of my life, and when I started it a lot of that went away." But I just got off lamictal. But maybe combined with Latuda would be a good idea. I worry about lamictal,though, becuase it made me off-balance physically and I fell down twice.

"Zyprexa can really make you gain weight," Latuda doesn't but thanks for the warning about Zyprexa. I will ask the pdoc about that. "so I'd watch out for that if you get your zyprexa prescription. I was only on that for a week and gained fifteen pounds." Scary. I myself have no interest in food, and have a hard time getting myself to eat at all these days.
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I took librium in high school for a short time. It didn't do thing one for me. I'm still taking the librium. Not a lot though. Just 10mg at night before bed. I'm not sure if it's doing anything though. I don't think I'm on a high enough dose. I'll probably ask to go off that too, so I can be completely benzodiazepine free.

It's just lousy because those are the only things that work for my anxiety completely. If this clinic does not solve my problem, since they won't rx benzodiazapines by rule, I may have to change clinics.

I have to second trying lamictal. Before I started lamictal I was angry and irritated every day of my life, and when I started it a lot of that went away. But I just got off lamictal.

Zyprexa can really make you gain weight, Latuda doesn't but thanks for the warning about Zyprexa. I will ask the pdoc about that. so I'd watch out for that if you get your zyprexa prescription. I was only on that for a week and gained fifteen pounds.
Oh, sorry, I must have missed you mentioning you just went off lamictal. Too bad it didn't work for you. Hope you find something that does!
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If your doc won't prescribe controlled substances, they likely won't prescribe gabapentin either. Gabapentin has already become a controlled substance in several states, and it's likely the rest will follow suit soon. My doc here in NY said even though it's not a controlled substance here yet, they have already had to start prescribing as if it is. My pharmacist said it will be controlled "any day now."
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This one did show up just now! I will look for your previous post/s. I missed a few from others, too -- found them (all?) eventually, but their posts might have shown up late, and not gotten to my email notifications. Well, at last email notifications have started working -- after YEARS of me not getting any.
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Oh, I forgot to mention diet in the latter half also; it's probably as important as medication for me.

No refined sugar, no simple carbohydrates, no refined carbohydrates. I stick with meat, fish, veg, fruit, nuts, eggs, cheese and probably a few other things I can't think of right now.

With the 4-minute relaxation I like to follow it up with doing something very simple/calming/distracting like an online jigsaw puzzle until I'm myself again.

Obviously all of this is only speaking from my experience over the years, so your triggers may be totally different.
Just found your first posts! The diet you do is almost exactly what I've done the 4-5 times in my life when I needed to lose 22 lbs. But eventually, I eat, say, ONE cookie. Then over the following few weeks, I'm back on sugar. Someone here recently recommended roasted vegetables. I LOVE them!!!! S/he did not say anything about the microwave, but -- that's how I do them. I follow the poster's recipe except I do microwave instead of regular oven. I make enough veggies for one person (I'm the only one here). I have done carrots; parsnips; rutabagas, and Brussels sprouts so far. My favorites,and easiest ones are carrots and Brussels sprouts. For the carrots, I cut them into even-thickness strips about 4" long, rinse them and roll them in about 1 tbsp olive oil. The rinsing provides enough water. I don't add water. I put them into a microwave safe soup bowl, and cover them with a saucer that rests about1/2 inch above the veggies. Then I wave them 2 minutes, stir till all re-covered with the oil mixture, 2 more minutes, test with a sharp knife; probably cook another minute or minute and a half. The only difference with the Brussels sprouts is I cut the ends off before rinsing. them. No need to cut them in half or anything. I cook maybe 8-10 or them at a time. I don't eat meat or fish very often, so that makes it hard to find things I really like to eat.
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I totally agree about the one-cookie factor. From years of trying and failing I think if it feels like a restricted diet, one will fail. So I agree you have to find a diet that feels comfortable for you long term and not eating much meat/fish must make that very tough!

Luckily(?!) I am now a diet-controlled diabetic so I pretty much have no choice. Though the temptation to go on insulin and enjoy some ice cream is sometimes strong.

I hope this evening finds you in better spirits.
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I totally agree about the one-cookie factor. From years of trying and failing I think if it feels like a restricted diet, one will fail. So I agree you have to find a diet that feels comfortable for you long term and not eating much meat/fish must make that very tough!

Luckily(?!) I am now a diet-controlled diabetic so I pretty much have no choice. Though the temptation to go on insulin and enjoy some ice cream is sometimes strong.

I hope this evening finds you in better spirits.
Dear tiltedyogi, Thank you -- yes, this evening does find me in better -- good, even! -- spirits. This morning that I woke up really depressed, took a Valium, slept an hour and a half longer, and woke up just fine.

Are you a yogi or a yoga person? I do chair yoga almost every day. There are several -- a lot, really -- YouTube videos of various lenghths that I like to use. I started Yoga 10+ years ago (when I could still do floor yoga) by copying the Yoga calendar!. Then my sister gave me a Rodney Yee Morning Yoga videotape (see how long ago it was?). And that was wonderful. Then for years I was in a senior chair yoga class once week. I think I'm done with the class -- at home works fine now.

I lift hand weights, too. Gradually have moved up from 2 lbs to 6 lbs. (one in each hand, of course.) Except for one movement when I still have to use the 2 lb weights. I have this beautiful little row of colorful, weight-graduated hand dumbbells -- two to 8 lbs. I love looking at them --they are so tempting to work out! I always am looking forward to graduating to the next one, which will be 7 lbs eventually. I look forward to retiring the 2 lb-er to the closet one of these days, too.

I have a very good pedal machine, too. I forgot to use it today. I like to use it on days when I have not done any walking. I talk on the phone to my b/f and pedal away. It makes it so my arthritis knees do not hurt.

Hope you are doing okay, too. Keep on pluggin for me to get a decent PRN med, k?
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Flowerbells, I have the same problem as you as far as feeling frustrated over trying this and that and none of it working and with it just being a guessing game. I see a new pdoc on Monday and I'm really dreading it because I know it will be just like that "let's try this". I just don't like meds in general anymore because I'm so fed up with them not working but having the side effects.
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Flowerbells, I have the same problem as you as far as feeling frustrated over trying this and that and none of it working and with it just being a guessing game. I see a new pdoc on Monday and I'm really dreading it because I know it will be just like that "let's try this". I just don't like meds in general anymore because I'm so fed up with them not working but having the side effects.
Well,just kidding....but.....who wrote this, you or me? Sorry this keeps happening. But to be Ms Pollyanna, well, at least (we hope) we are not dying in the mental hospitals like used to happen in the not-so-olden-days. Or to be more real....at least we are not being eaten by Lions, Tigers,and Bears.
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Hope you are doing okay, too. Keep on pluggin for me to get a decent PRN med, k?
I will! And I'm doing pretty well recently, thank you.

I do some simple yoga now but the name is more ironic, in that trying (and failing) to do yoga properly put me on tilt (made me angry).
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