Home Menu

Menu


Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old Sep 26, 2018, 01:46 PM
MsMystery MsMystery is offline
Member
 
Member Since: Jul 2018
Location: UnitedStates
Posts: 68
There are things wrong in my life. The nature of these things is making me into a negative grouch. I can see the flip side of everything, always able to see and COMMENT ON the negative aspect.

Does anyone else have this problem? I don't want to be a Pollyanna, saying everything is "perfect in this world," or that "there's a purpose for everything," because I do not believe this is true! But I need to stop pointing out the negatives.

I just SEE these negatives so CLEARLY!!!!! And I want to mention them, and I do mention them.

I need to stop THINKING about the negative things! I need to stop SEEING the negative things, and just enjoy what's okay or good. Any suggestions, anyone?

advertisement
  #2  
Old Sep 26, 2018, 01:51 PM
Moose72's Avatar
Moose72 Moose72 is offline
Silver Swan
 
Member Since: Jan 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 18,618
See your therapist. Make a list of the positive things. Take a DBT class.
__________________
Qui Cantat Bis Orat ingrezza 80 mg
Propranolol 40 mg
Benztropine 1 mg
Vraylar 4.5 mg
Risperdal .5 mg
Gabapentin 300 mg
Klonopin 1 mg 2x daily
  #3  
Old Sep 26, 2018, 02:07 PM
MsMystery MsMystery is offline
Member
 
Member Since: Jul 2018
Location: UnitedStates
Posts: 68
Thanks, Moose 72. DBT is not for me -- I've tried it before. Two different therapists for DBT, one complete series of classes.

Lists of good things work well for me. I'll do that right away!
  #4  
Old Sep 26, 2018, 02:56 PM
Blueberrybook's Avatar
Blueberrybook Blueberrybook is offline
Elder
 
Member Since: Oct 2017
Location: TX
Posts: 7,001
I'm that way too. H says I see the negative in everything, but I don't know on certain things, it's like I can read the writing on the wall, such as his not getting hired by the university that promised him he'd have a job come fall & once it was July & nothing, I was like that's it, there's not going to be a job, and there wasn't. I knew too his mom was so bad off that the last time we visited, it would be the last time my daughter & I saw her alive (this was around 6 months prior to her death, H's family lives in California, so it's not exactly an easy visit). The way things were going, I pleaded with him to spend Christmas with his parents this year because I just knew his mom was going to die over Christmas break, and sure enough, she passed away December 28. But maybe those were situations H was too close to emotionally to see what was coming. I never told H I knew these things beforehand, but I did afterwards and then he commented about my always seeing the negative.

I am sure there are things I thought negatively about that turned out positive, but I can't for the life of me remember them.

Lately, I have enough trouble just going day to day. Some days are bad, some terrible, and some downright I don't know how I'll get through this.

Another thing to work on...just tack it onto my long list...
__________________
Bipolar 1, PTSD, anorexia, panic disorder, ADHD

Seroquel, Cymbalta, propanolol, buspirone, Trazodone, gabapentin, lamotrigine, hydroxyzine,

There's a crack in everything. That is how the light gets in.
--Leonard Cohen
  #5  
Old Sep 26, 2018, 03:10 PM
USMCBIPOLAR7's Avatar
USMCBIPOLAR7 USMCBIPOLAR7 is offline
Member
 
Member Since: Oct 2017
Posts: 120
I usually see the negative when depressed but after some medicine changes it’s easier to see positive things. I like the list too it really helps me. Also I try and do worthwhile things which trigger positive feelings and thoughts
  #6  
Old Sep 26, 2018, 03:57 PM
MsMystery MsMystery is offline
Member
 
Member Since: Jul 2018
Location: UnitedStates
Posts: 68
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueberrybook View Post
I'm that way too. H says I see the negative in everything, but I don't know on certain things, it's like I can read the writing on the wall, such as his not getting hired by the university that promised him he'd have a job come fall & once it was July & nothing, I was like that's it, there's not going to be a job, and there wasn't. I knew too his mom was so bad off that the last time we visited, it would be the last time my daughter & I saw her alive (this was around 6 months prior to her death, H's family lives in California, so it's not exactly an easy visit). The way things were going, I pleaded with him to spend Christmas with his parents this year because I just knew his mom was going to die over Christmas break, and sure enough, she passed away December 28. But maybe those were situations H was too close to emotionally to see what was coming. I never told H I knew these things beforehand, but I did afterwards and then he commented about my always seeing the negative.

I am sure there are things I thought negatively about that turned out positive, but I can't for the life of me remember them.

Lately, I have enough trouble just going day to day. Some days are bad, some terrible, and some downright I don't know how I'll get through this.

Another thing to work on...just tack it onto my long list...
Dear Blueberrybook, thanks for your post here. The two incidents you mention remind me of myself -- it's like successfully predicting the future, isn't it. My dad could do that, my brother and I can do it. And it's almost always predicting negative things that DO happen.

But another sentence you wrote, that you can't seem to remember times that negative predictions turned out to be okay, not negative -- that happens to me a lot. I need to remember to focus/remember the times that I had what one therapist called "anticipatory anxiety" where the thing I was just SO SURE was going to go wrong, turned out to work out fine!

Another thing I need to remember (regarding predictions) this is a form of what Dr. Burns calls "erroneous thinking" types. It's called "fortune telling." I need to remember to be in the here and now, and not "live in the future" by "fortune telling."
  #7  
Old Sep 26, 2018, 04:01 PM
MsMystery MsMystery is offline
Member
 
Member Since: Jul 2018
Location: UnitedStates
Posts: 68
Quote:
Originally Posted by USMCBIPOLAR7 View Post
I usually see the negative when depressed but after some medicine changes it’s easier to see positive things. I like the list too it really helps me. Also I try and do worthwhile things which trigger positive feelings and thoughts
Dear USMCBipolar7, Hmmm. That's interesting that you pointed out that a meds change might enable a person to see the positive more easily.

A little while ago, I made a list of good things. It made me feel good.

And, whew -- a few minutes ago somebody had a loud, LOUD motorcycle right outside my window. Fortunately, he stopped gunning the engine after less than 5 minutes. I hope he's not a new neighbor with a loud motorcycle that he guns. This is the first time I've heard it, and it's annoying, but thankfully it didn't last long.
  #8  
Old Sep 26, 2018, 04:47 PM
Anonymous46341
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
You've got to work on challenging dysfunctional thinking. I recommend CBT for that.

I know when we're depressed that if we had to list a Pros and Cons list of things in life, the Pros list may be shorter than the Cons. But that is the time when you make yourself remember when you did feel well. Hey! Try to ask yourself this... When you did feel well, what would you have put as your Pros vs. Cons? I bet the Pros in life list would be longer. Maybe next time you feel better, make that list and keep it in your dresser drawer and pull it out when the glass seems half empty instead of half full.
  #9  
Old Sep 26, 2018, 05:02 PM
Blueberrybook's Avatar
Blueberrybook Blueberrybook is offline
Elder
 
Member Since: Oct 2017
Location: TX
Posts: 7,001
Quote:
Originally Posted by MsMystery View Post
But another sentence you wrote, that you can't seem to remember times that negative predictions turned out to be okay, not negative -- that happens to me a lot. I need to remember to focus/remember the times that I had what one therapist called "anticipatory anxiety" where the thing I was just SO SURE was going to go wrong, turned out to work out fine!
This is what I struggle with. When I'm sure things will go wrong and they don't (it has to happen even if I don't remember a particular instance of this), I just flat-out do not remember them. Or at least I don't remember them long-term AT ALL. Why? I wish I knew.
__________________
Bipolar 1, PTSD, anorexia, panic disorder, ADHD

Seroquel, Cymbalta, propanolol, buspirone, Trazodone, gabapentin, lamotrigine, hydroxyzine,

There's a crack in everything. That is how the light gets in.
--Leonard Cohen
  #10  
Old Sep 26, 2018, 05:08 PM
Row Jimmy Row Jimmy is offline
Poohbah
 
Member Since: Apr 2015
Location: Protest.
Posts: 1,337
I just let the negativity wash over me and focus on what I like to do. In a way, it is a selfish approach to life but I do what I need to do.
  #11  
Old Sep 26, 2018, 06:03 PM
MsMystery MsMystery is offline
Member
 
Member Since: Jul 2018
Location: UnitedStates
Posts: 68
Quote:
Originally Posted by BirdDancer View Post
You've got to work on challenging dysfunctional thinking. I recommend CBT for that.

I know when we're depressed that if we had to list a Pros and Cons list of things in life, the Pros list may be shorter than the Cons. But that is the time when you make yourself remember when you did feel well. Hey! Try to ask yourself this... When you did feel well, what would you have put as your Pros vs. Cons? I bet the Pros in life list would be longer. Maybe next time you feel better, make that list and keep it in your dresser drawer and pull it out when the glass seems half empty instead of half full.
Dear Bird Dancer, Excellent points! Thanks so much. I've got to get back to CBT. I have Dr. Burns' workbook, "Ten Days to Self Esteem." I'll get it out and work on the erroneous thinking patterns again.
  #12  
Old Sep 26, 2018, 06:05 PM
MsMystery MsMystery is offline
Member
 
Member Since: Jul 2018
Location: UnitedStates
Posts: 68
Hello, Row Jimmy, that's another approach I will try. Thanks!
Hugs from:
Fuzzybear
  #13  
Old Sep 26, 2018, 06:20 PM
Fuzzybear's Avatar
Fuzzybear Fuzzybear is offline
Wisest Elder Ever
 
Member Since: Nov 2002
Location: Cave.
Posts: 96,637
__________________
Thanks for this!
MsMystery
  #14  
Old Sep 28, 2018, 06:21 PM
~Christina's Avatar
~Christina ~Christina is offline
Legendary Wise Elder
Community Liaison
 
Member Since: Jul 2011
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 22,450
I use to be very negative.

Through therapy I have learned there are always 3 sides .... good , negative and neutral sides

I use to assume the worse then if it worked out ok I would be happy if not it was what I expected.

It takes lots of time and effort to change your perceptions , but it can be done.
__________________
Helping others gets me out of my own head ~
  #15  
Old Sep 28, 2018, 06:45 PM
MsMystery MsMystery is offline
Member
 
Member Since: Jul 2018
Location: UnitedStates
Posts: 68
Dear Christina, this is good information. I never thought about 3 sides!

I got out my Dr. Burns CBT book, but once my mind goes down a negative/angry path, I find it so hard to turn myself around.

But I will keep working at it.
Thanks for this!
~Christina
  #16  
Old Sep 28, 2018, 09:34 PM
~Christina's Avatar
~Christina ~Christina is offline
Legendary Wise Elder
Community Liaison
 
Member Since: Jul 2011
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 22,450
Quote:
Originally Posted by MsMystery View Post
Dear Christina, this is good information. I never thought about 3 sides!


I got out my Dr. Burns CBT book, but once my mind goes down a negative/angry path, I find it so hard to turn myself around.


But I will keep working at it.


Something that I learned last year was when my mind started down that damn road I visually see hundreds of stop signs flying at me. It literally has changed my life , all kinds shapes and sizes zooms at myself mentally.


Just a thought I forgot to add earlier
__________________
Helping others gets me out of my own head ~
  #17  
Old Sep 29, 2018, 08:06 AM
MsMystery MsMystery is offline
Member
 
Member Since: Jul 2018
Location: UnitedStates
Posts: 68
Interesting, Christina. Thanks. I'll try that.
Reply
Views: 972

attentionThis is an old thread. You probably should not post your reply to it, as the original poster is unlikely to see it.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:32 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® — Copyright © 2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.




 

My Support Forums

My Support Forums is the online community that was originally begun as the Psych Central Forums in 2001. It now runs as an independent self-help support group community for mental health, personality, and psychological issues and is overseen by a group of dedicated, caring volunteers from around the world.

 

Helplines and Lifelines

The material on this site is for informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider.

Always consult your doctor or mental health professional before trying anything you read here.