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Old Jun 09, 2020, 07:39 AM
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After nearly a year of treatment and some psychological tests, I received something like a diagnosis. I remember "somewhere on the bipolar spectrum" and "mixed states".

Mixed states explain much of my life. Depression with frenzy activity, euphoria while thinking about my death, exhaustion and racing thoughts… Yes, it could be right. Especially the last year was full of it. It wasn't much bad, but it was endless. My longest stable period lasted about two weeks…

Random question: is it common that the strictly divided and crystal clear episodes change with time into such a horrible mess? Am I the only one?

I feel completely fine now. It's easy to think that I'm finally cured. I thought it about three months ago, but then another nice mixed episode came. Nevermind. My belief is stronger than reality.

What if my so called "problems" are just my character? Everybody has mood swings, right?

Does the diagnosis matter?
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Old Jun 09, 2020, 08:24 AM
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My understanding is that each person with bipolar disorder experiences it differently. I don't think it's "typical" for discrete states to develop into a mess--but that seems to be your experience.

I think diagnoses matter most in the treatment of a person by mental-health professionals. And to give us a label for what we're going through.
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Old Jun 09, 2020, 10:09 AM
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After nearly a year of treatment and some psychological tests, I received something like a diagnosis. I remember "somewhere on the bipolar spectrum" and "mixed states".

Mixed states explain much of my life. Depression with frenzy activity, euphoria while thinking about my death, exhaustion and racing thoughts… Yes, it could be right. Especially the last year was full of it. It wasn't much bad, but it was endless. My longest stable period lasted about two weeks…

My baseline is mixed state BD1. I know how miserable mixed states can be. It sounds like the depth of mixed wasn't as hard for you as the relentlessness was. Either way, mixed states are energy draining and exhausting.

Random question: is it common that the strictly divided and crystal clear episodes change with time into such a horrible mess? Am I the only one?

Very common. For me, that how BD is.

I feel completely fine now. It's easy to think that I'm finally cured. I thought it about three months ago, but then another nice mixed episode came. Nevermind. My belief is stronger than reality.

Bipolar disorder is like that. It's a trickster. What you've explained is the main reason why so many with BD go off meds. "I'm okay now, why should I stay on meds?" Then the inevitable - a crash into an episode.

What if my so called "problems" are just my character? Everybody has mood swings, right?

I've never met anyone, online or in person, who doesn't question their BD diagnosis. Much of the nature of BD is about range of moods, rather than change of moods. A Wider range of moods a more extreme depth to moods indicates BD.

Does the diagnosis matter?

It matters to me because my dx indicates which meds will (and will not) tend to work for me. It matters because it's easier to find other people who know what it feels like to live with BD. And of course, it matters because of insurance, so I can receive proper treatment.
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Old Jun 09, 2020, 10:20 AM
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Old Jun 09, 2020, 10:32 AM
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After nearly a year of treatment and some psychological tests, I received something like a diagnosis. I remember "somewhere on the bipolar spectrum" and "mixed states".

Mixed states explain much of my life. Depression with frenzy activity, euphoria while thinking about my death, exhaustion and racing thoughts… Yes, it could be right. Especially the last year was full of it. It wasn't much bad, but it was endless. My longest stable period lasted about two weeks…

Random question: is it common that the strictly divided and crystal clear episodes change with time into such a horrible mess? Am I the only one?

I feel completely fine now. It's easy to think that I'm finally cured. I thought it about three months ago, but then another nice mixed episode came. Nevermind. My belief is stronger than reality.

What if my so called "problems" are just my character? Everybody has mood swings, right?

Does the diagnosis matter?
I am sorry you are struggling, Isolda. In my decades of time with bipolar 1, it is quite unpredictable, overall. There may be patterns, but those may not last or may change over the years. I used to usually get manic in June and depressed in October, Last year, I became manic and psychotic in October and I now appear to maybe be getting depression here in early June.

The stuff you read in the DSM-V or in books and papers about bipolar disorder is only an archtype. Sure, some of it will apply to you at times, but not all of it all the time.

What are your meds?
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Old Jun 09, 2020, 12:06 PM
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I am sorry you are struggling, Isolda. In my decades of time with bipolar 1, it is quite unpredictable, overall. There may be patterns, but those may not last or may change over the years. I used to usually get manic in June and depressed in October, Last year, I became manic and psychotic in October and I now appear to maybe be getting depression here in early June.

The stuff you read in the DSM-V or in books and papers about bipolar disorder is only an archtype. Sure, some of it will apply to you at times, but not all of it all the time.

What are your meds?
I know October depression. When I was a child, I used to love autumn and winter, but now I have problems with the long nights and the darkness.

I take Lamotrigine, Risperidone and Lyrica for anxiety. All in quite homeopathic dosages.
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Old Jun 09, 2020, 12:24 PM
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You are not really on a classical mood stabilizer. I wonder if that could help with the mixed stuff. It is possible.
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Old Jun 12, 2020, 05:26 AM
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You are not really on a classical mood stabilizer. I wonder if that could help with the mixed stuff. It is possible.
Which are classical mood stabilizers?

I feel quite fine now, but it could be helpful if there were some problems in the future.
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Old Jun 12, 2020, 10:48 AM
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Lithium, depakote, tegretol, and lamictal are the four most commonly referenced. I hve beenon all of them. Right now, the one that works best is depakote, though lithium has done nicely in the past. Lamictal was completely worthless for me.
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Lithium, depakote, tegretol, and lamictal are the four most commonly referenced. I hve beenon all of them. Right now, the one that works best is depakote, though lithium has done nicely in the past. Lamictal was completely worthless for me.
That's too bad about lamictal. I think that may be the first suggested from that list by some providers..(idk)... I have not tried any of these. I have tried many from other classes of meds. Including seroquel..
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