[lostinsidemyself]

My therapist told me that the new 5th edition of the DSM has a few meds approved for BPD, seroquel being one of the three, i believe he said there were three, maybe four. Im likely going to try seroquel as long as my psychatrist doesnt rip xanax away, like give me both so i can try it for a week or so, but if it doesnt work im gonna have to have what works (my job depends on me being able to control the anxiety has i have BPD, PTSD and GAD as i have more anxiety than what PTSD normally comes with) plus i dont see her but once every 3 months. My therapist is a LMHC that works with her that i see every week. Just thought id put that out there.

Originally Posted by lostinsidemyself

My therapist told me that the new 5th edition of the DSM has a few meds approved for BPD, seroquel being one of the three, i believe he said there were three, maybe four. Im likely going to try seroquel as long as my psychatrist doesnt rip xanax away, like give me both so i can try it for a week or so, but if it doesnt work im gonna have to have what works (my job depends on me being able to control the anxiety has i have BPD, PTSD and GAD as i have more anxiety than what PTSD normally comes with) plus i dont see her but once every 3 months. My therapist is a LMHC that works with her that i see every week. Just thought id put that out there.

I was prescribed Seroquel about ten years ago when I was going through a really bad spell with insomnia. Worked well. BUT watch out because for some people, me included, it triggered major appetite issues. I felt like I could eat the entire buffet and still want more! I finally had to stop taking it because I was struggling so hard not to eat in an out-of-control manner. I stopped the med and my appetite went back to normal. Good luck with it but just be aware of the appetite issues for some people!

[cmc3663]

As far as I know there aren't any meds approves for BPD specifically but sometimes meds can help. I just started Latuda so I'm hoping it works for my BPD as well as my Bipolar!

[lostinsidemyself]

Originally Posted by cmc3663

As far as I know there aren't any meds approves for BPD specifically but sometimes meds can help. I just started Latuda so I'm hoping it works for my BPD as well as my Bipolar!

My therapist told me last week that there are a few in the new 5th edition of the DSM that just came out.

Latuda isnt one of them but that was just approved in dmaller doses for depression.

[lostinsidemyself]

Originally Posted by Jaybird57

I was prescribed Seroquel about ten years ago when I was going through a really bad spell with insomnia. Worked well. BUT watch out because for some people, me included, it triggered major appetite issues. I felt like I could eat the entire buffet and still want more! I finally had to stop taking it because I was struggling so hard not to eat in an out-of-control manner. I stopped the med and my appetite went back to normal. Good luck with it but just be aware of the appetite issues for some people!

Thanks, i'll watch out for it if i go on it. Actually right now that wouldnt be a bad thing as im having a hard time wanting to eat, not ever hungry, forgetting i havent eaten all day and when hungry, if ever, also nausious. One of my many physical symptom to my mental state but im sure like all my physical stuff due to mental states, it will go away. Thanks for the tip!

[cmc3663]

Okay so here's the confusion. The DSM doesn't approve medication for specific conditions, the FDA does. There are a handful that are approved for use in BPD. I take Latuda for Bipolar though, and because it's a category B medication for pregnancy whereas Seroquel and others are riskier during pregnancy.

[lostinsidemyself]

Originally Posted by cmc3663

Okay so here's the confusion. The DSM doesn't approve medication for specific conditions, the FDA does. There are a handful that are approved for use in BPD. I take Latuda for Bipolar though, and because it's a category B medication for pregnancy whereas Seroquel and others are riskier during pregnancy.

Oh, ok I see. Maybe I misquoted my therapist or maybe he just said it wrong. Maybe he said the DSM 5th edition suggests medication for BPD now? Im not sure but he looked it up online. Maybe it just suggested it but here are a few sites and (although I know you cant cuz you're preg, maybe others can ask for some to help).

Seroquel XR Helps in Borderline Personality Disorder | Medpage Today

Borderline Personality Disorder Demystified - medicine

If you google Borderline Personality Disorder medications, there are a few suggested. Im on Xanax for anxiety and tried about every anti depressent on the marget and Abilify ehich i took for a month and had to stop it cuz it made me too tired. Hopefully seriquol wont?

[leomama]

Originally Posted by lostinsidemyself

My therapist told me that the new 5th edition of the DSM has a few meds approved for BPD, seroquel being one of the three, i believe he said there were three, maybe four. Im likely going to try seroquel as long as my psychatrist doesnt rip xanax away, like give me both so i can try it for a week or so, but if it doesnt work im gonna have to have what works (my job depends on me being able to control the anxiety has i have BPD, PTSD and GAD as i have more anxiety than what PTSD normally comes with) plus i dont see her but once every 3 months. My therapist is a LMHC that works with her that i see every week. Just thought id put that out there.

What are the other three? can you ask him? I was taking seroquel but finally had to stop because of the weight gain. I had gone off it before, initially because it made me to drowsy at 12.5mg. Now I"m up to 50 and could go higher but the weight gain was a deal breaker.

[leomama]

Originally Posted by Jaybird57

I was prescribed Seroquel about ten years ago when I was going through a really bad spell with insomnia. Worked well. BUT watch out because for some people, me included, it triggered major appetite issues. I felt like I could eat the entire buffet and still want more! I finally had to stop taking it because I was struggling so hard not to eat in an out-of-control manner. I stopped the med and my appetite went back to normal. Good luck with it but just be aware of the appetite issues for some people!

Yes me too lost 3 lbs in a week when I went off it. This week to be precise. Did you take anything else for insomnia? I've burned through ambient, lunesta and sonata as well as trazodone, and melatonin. I'm back to taurine, tryptophan and valerian.

I don't know what to do.

[leomama]

Originally Posted by lostinsidemyself

Oh, ok I see. Maybe I misquoted my therapist or maybe he just said it wrong. Maybe he said the DSM 5th edition suggests medication for BPD now? Im not sure but he looked it up online. Maybe it just suggested it but here are a few sites and (although I know you cant cuz you're preg, maybe others can ask for some to help).

Seroquel XR Helps in Borderline Personality Disorder | Medpage Today

Borderline Personality Disorder Demystified - medicine

If you google Borderline Personality Disorder medications, there are a few suggested. Im on Xanax for anxiety and tried about every anti depressent on the marget and Abilify ehich i took for a month and had to stop it cuz it made me too tired. Hopefully seriquol wont?

Thanks for this I forward the section on the poor sleep in the second article to my doctor. I don't have BPD but I do have NOSPD which means I have some BPD traits. I wish my psyche wasn't so complex.

[lostinsidemyself]

Originally Posted by leomama

What are the other three? can you ask him? I was taking seroquel but finally had to stop because of the weight gain. I had gone off it before, initially because it made me to drowsy at 12.5mg. Now I"m up to 50 and could go higher but the weight gain was a deal breaker.

I will def ask him; I see him tomorrow.

Im not that worried about gaining weight, though Im heavier than I should be, BPD and others not understanding BPD on another mental health website (for another disorder, mainly) caused me to be enemy number one on there and a temp 72 hr ban though I wont be back; if I unconsciencly cause that much trouble then why go back? There has to be something, even just for a short time frame, that can help this emotional roller coaster other than the DBT workbook because that takes time and even after Im through the book, it takes time and practice and people, even in real life, wants than change now. So even if I gain 100 lbs, Id rather be 100 lbs heavier then to feel like this and make everyone run.

[leomama]

Seroquel can cause weight gain, I was taking it for insomnia .

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[leomama]

Originally Posted by lostinsidemyself

I will def ask him; I see him tomorrow.

Ty!

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[lostinsidemyself]

Originally Posted by leomama

Yes me too lost 3 lbs in a week when I went off it. This week to be precise. Did you take anything else for insomnia? I've burned through ambient, lunesta and sonata as well as trazodone, and melatonin. I'm back to taurine, tryptophan and valerian.

I don't know what to do.

I havent gone on seroquel yet but I cant sleep without something. If I take a sleeping med, I cant wake up the next day and so Im given Tizanidine (muscle relaxer) by my pain Dr, Im supposed to take 3 a day but even one makes me tired so I took one at night for the back spasims and learned they put me to sleep. I have to take 2 usually to go to sleep and not just be tired (at times 3 but not usual, depends on how reved up my mind is but 3 is the most I will take) and recently had to start taking one of my xanax with it becauce my brain still races and if I dont my body wants to go to sleep but my brain wont let me. I made my psychritrist and pain Dr both aware and both are ok with this as long as I dont take more than 3 with just 1 xanax.

Not the best thing for sleep but Ive tried all sleeping meds and they all make me so tired the next day that I cant function and I have to work. Muscle relaxers wear off by morning and allow me to function. I do wake up a lot from nightmares but even with being horribly terrified, I can go back to sleep pretty easy.

I didnt need a xanax with it until recently and so just the tizanadine worked for 4 yrs, my anxiety increased and caused an issue with sleep.

There are other muscle relaxers that can work as well; as well as other medications. There's a new one on tv about sleep and wake receptors in your brain. As always discuss it with your MD and let them know why the other meds didnt work and maybe theres something else that will work better.

[cmc3663]

This is what I was able to find:

NIMH » Borderline Personality Disorder

[lostinsidemyself]

Originally Posted by leomama

Seroquel can cause weight gain, I was taking it for insomnia .

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Makes me think then that it causes you to be sleepy? Would it be better if taken at night? Does it help the anxiety as well in the day if taken at night? I ask because i cant be sleepy in the day but she wants to take me off xanax if she gives me seroquel and i have MASSIVE anxiety and it has to be controled, my job depends on it.

Anyone have any tips on this?

[lostinsidemyself]

Originally Posted by leomama

Thanks for this I forward the section on the poor sleep in the second article to my doctor. I don't have BPD but I do have NOSPD which means I have some BPD traits. I wish my psyche wasn't so complex.

You are very welcome! What does NOSPD stand for? I googled but google doesnt seem to know. Sorry if im being too nosey.

[leomama]

Nonspecific personality disorder

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[lostinsidemyself]

Originally Posted by cmc3663

This is what I was able to find:

NIMH » Borderline Personality Disorder

Right, thats what I was told about medications, thats why I was put on xanax and thats about DSM 3, I think my therapist was saying that the DSM 5 advises and the FDA approved/found a few medications to be helpful for emotions regulation along with CBT & DBT.

Def not saying they work or anything, I havent bern on any of them yet; and def not arguing; just saying what my therapist told me last week.

Thank you for the link! I'll share with my thrrapist!

[lostinsidemyself]

Originally Posted by leomama

Nonspecific personality disorder

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Oh, ok. Thanks!

[ameliaxxx]

Originally Posted by Jaybird57

I was prescribed Seroquel about ten years ago when I was going through a really bad spell with insomnia. Worked well. BUT watch out because for some people, me included, it triggered major appetite issues. I felt like I could eat the entire buffet and still want more! I finally had to stop taking it because I was struggling so hard not to eat in an out-of-control manner. I stopped the med and my appetite went back to normal. Good luck with it but just be aware of the appetite issues for some people!

I take it, for the same reason, sleep and also BPD. It never really changed my appetite from what it usually is. But I've heard of that happening.

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[ameliaxxx]

Seroquel never gave me appetite issues or weigh gain. I'm rather skinny and I take it everyday. It doesn't really help me in the BPD area either.. So I guess it just doesn't work for me. Medications never work right for me.

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[lostinsidemyself]

Originally Posted by ameliaxxx

Seroquel never gave me appetite issues or weigh gain. I'm rather skinny and I take it everyday. It doesn't really help me in the BPD area either.. So I guess it just doesn't work for me. Medications never work right for me.

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I didnt have a ton of time to talk to him about it but did ask if it makes you tired as thats my biggest concern. He said it does for a few days?? Not sure if folks are taking it for insomia but not gonna figure it out until i can try it.

Just gotta make an appointment with my psychritrist and get her to prescibe it without ripping my xanax out from under me, that way if it doesnt work; i'll have something that does. I have to control my anxiety for my job.

I went on the anti-depressant and Abilify merry go round...they do nothing for me so I dont know about this. I get nervous with medication changes.

[ameliaxxx]

Originally Posted by lostinsidemyself

I didnt have a ton of time to talk to him about it but did ask if it makes you tired as thats my biggest concern. He said it does for a few days?? Not sure if folks are taking it for insomia but not gonna figure it out until i can try it.


Just gotta make an appointment with my psychritrist and get her to prescibe it without ripping my xanax out from under me, that way if it doesnt work; i'll have something that does. I have to control my anxiety for my job.


I went on the anti-depressant and Abilify merry go round...they do nothing for me so I dont know about this. I get nervous with medication changes.

I take it at night only, because it will make you tired. I can almost guarantee that.

I did the anti-depressant and abilify thing too. It didn't work for me either.

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[lostinsidemyself]

Originally Posted by ameliaxxx

I take it at night only, because it will make you tired. I can almost guarantee that.

I did the anti-depressant and abilify thing too. It didn't work for me either.

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Yeah, I was thinking about that but if I take it at night, will it help control the anxiety in the day? Theres the question of the day.