[Xander187]

i recently got kicked out of my moms house it forclosed. im living with my dad. but he doesnt want me living with him. i have a place to live in march but my aunt sister cousins will all not let me live with them for even two weeks. and my dad wants me out. really leaves me stuck. i have no money or income. or job. makes me feel like nobody cares about me. i wanted to comit suiside last night. please help.

[Open Eyes]

(((Xander187)),

You need to reach out for help, find a VA hospital as they "do" have good programs. DO NOT comit suiside. I am sorry you are having that challenge, but know this challenge will go away, I promise it does. It tends to have cycles like the other PTSD challenges, can come on strong but ALWAYS fades too. After a while that will weaken, especially if you reach out for help.

If you are struggling you need to go to the VA and say how bad you are, and you may get to be inpatient and they have to find a place for you.

[Open Eyes]

Xander, have you seen this link?

Office of Public and Intergovernmental Affairs

[Xander187]

i have actually been to the va here in arizona they are horrible they are under investigation for letting 20 patients die while waiting for help. a couple of them told them they wanted to commit suiside. they told me that according to my dd214 im a day short of recieving any care from themn which is bs because i was in for close to three years. when i was etsing they got me out so fast they didnt care if my dd214 was messed up. i was out in 10 days. it says i never deplyed they took away alot of my medals and ****. so the va will not help me. thank you for the help but do you have any other options?

Originally Posted by Open Eyes

(((Xander187)),

You need to reach out for help, find a VA hospital as they "do" have good programs. DO NOT comit suiside. I am sorry you are having that challenge, but know this challenge will go away, I promise it does. It tends to have cycles like the other PTSD challenges, can come on strong but ALWAYS fades too. After a while that will weaken, especially if you reach out for help.

If you are struggling you need to go to the VA and say how bad you are, and you may get to be inpatient and they have to find a place for you.

[Xander187]

i will look at it but as i replied to the other guy the va said they will not help me and the va here in phoenix sucks.

Originally Posted by Open Eyes

Xander, have you seen this link?

Office of Public and Intergovernmental Affairs

[Open Eyes]

Wow Xander, I am sorry you are running into problems with a VA hospital that is supposed to be helping you. You certainly don't deserve to be getting the run around either. Honestly, maybe you should go to the media even.

I am not one who has a lot knowledge about this area, however I definitely know how bad PTSD can get because I have struggled badly with it myself. If I lived in your state I would pick you up and make a big stink about your challenge, you should not be worried about being homeless. I guess it really makes a difference what state one lives in too.

Perhaps another member will see this thread and post to it, it depends on who is on. I have to admit we don't get as many vets in this forum.

[Open Eyes]

Here is another link and it has a number on the bottom you can call too.

News Releases - Office of Public and Intergovernmental Affairs

Oh, it's the same one but this one may be more recent.

Here is the number they give:

For additional information, go to www.va.gov or call VA’s toll free benefits number at 1-800-827-1000.

[Xander187]

it's crazy isn't it? your a hero one day and then a piece of **** the next. and they wonder why suiside is so high with vets. nobody wants to help them out. im just taken back by my own damn family. i have helped all them out in big ways with no payment back. one i flew to virginia and drove a uhaul to illions and ended up cracking my skull open helping them move and that was all on my dime they didnt pay for flights or anything. and now wont help a bit. i have tried going to higher people and media. but in reality the people i would have to make acuasations about are powerfull people and i dont have the backing to stand up in a fight against them

Originally Posted by Open Eyes

Wow Xander, I am sorry you are running into problems with a VA hospital that is supposed to be helping you. You certainly don't deserve to be getting the run around either. Honestly, maybe you should go to the media even.

I am not one who has a lot knowledge about this area, however I definitely know how bad PTSD can get because I have struggled badly with it myself. If I lived in your state I would pick you up and make a big stink about your challenge, you should not be worried about being homeless. I guess it really makes a difference what state one lives in too.

Perhaps another member will see this thread and post to it, it depends on who is on. I have to admit we don't get as many vets in this forum.

[Open Eyes]

Yes, it is crazy, and it's wrong. I am sorry your own family is not supporting you, sadly that does happen not just with veterans, but many civilians as well. People don't understand how bad PTSD can get and they can actually be very dismissive, even mean too. At least there has been an effort to have more awareness about it to some degree.
I know a vet that has it and struggles, did three tours in Iraq, and he gets housing and is going to college too. I don't understand why some get help and others don't. As I mentioned, it could be the state you live in and the VA services are still very poor.

I believe you about having to complain about people who are powerful and not getting the backing. I did a search to see if I could find that special I had watched so I could get the names of the people they had on, but I could not seem to find it. I will have to try and look some more tomarrow.

[Xander187]

ya i dont understand it also. i got out in 2012. durring that time there was a whole platoon of people who were getting chaptered. it seemed supid. if i said no to anything then they had meens to chapter me. they even threw me in prison. somebody said i stole a cell phone charger when we were in afghan. it was ********. 24 hour lockdown in a marine prisson. i had a choice either get chaptered or be in prison for two more years. funny thing is my co came to me when i was in the mental hospital after almost commiting suiside they sat me down and said well after u get out of here your going strait to prison for attempted suiside. they interviewed the doctors to see if i said anything incriminatin at all. which is a violation of their doctor patient confidentialty. my own unit was telling me to beware if we go to the woods that im not coming back alive. and they know where i live. they told me in detail how they were going to kill me. i had it all on tape. this is my first sgt describing how he was going to kill me all on tape. i turned them over to mcains office and they "disapeared" so i know going agaist these guys is not to be taken lightly. they teach us how to kill and get away with it and me messing with them would end up bad.

[Open Eyes]

You know, while that sounds crazy, I find myself not so surprised that might happen.
I am sure there are things many/most civilians do not know and efforts are made so they don't know too.

[Xander187]

it does huh? something out of a movie. yes there is. and they make sure you will not tell anybody what you know.

[Open Eyes]

Well, I was just checking out if there is any recent new articles about homeless vets and PTSD and nothing I could see this year, yet. However, it is a big problem and there "are" very many homeless veterans and many of them suffer from PTSD.

You know, both political parties are about to spend huge sums of money on the next campaign/election, BOTH PARITES mind you. It's sad that is going to take place "yet again" when so many of our veterans are HOMELESS. All these wealthy celebrities that moan and cry for social justice from their huge and lavish lifestyles too. Doesn't make sense now does it? Then people howl about making sure illegals have food and housing while we can't even feed and house our war veterans?

I wish I had been blessed with having money so I could do something.

[Open Eyes]

((Xander)),

I am very tired and need to go to bed, please be patient, I guess no one else is active tonight to post and support you along with me. Please be patient, come back when you need to vent. I am going to say prayers for you. Don't give up, keep trying.

(((Caring Supportive Hugs)))
OE

[Xander187]

well i thank everybody for putting their input. i am glad they have this site where i can talk to other people who can relate. having ptsd you have very little people who can relate. so it is nice.

[Parley]

Originally Posted by Xander187

i have actually been to the va here in arizona they are horrible they are under investigation for letting 20 patients die while waiting for help. a couple of them told them they wanted to commit suiside. they told me that according to my dd214 im a day short of recieving any care from themn which is bs because i was in for close to three years. when i was etsing they got me out so fast they didnt care if my dd214 was messed up. i was out in 10 days. it says i never deplyed they took away alot of my medals and ****. so the va will not help me. thank you for the help but do you have any other options?

maybe its different now but 10 working days was the normal amount of time to turn everything in and process out of the system. Medals are given with a document to prove you received them so write to records keeping in St Louis and ask for them. if you were deployed there will also be orders to prove your claims.

If you were turned down you should have received a letter of denial and you have a year to appeal and your unit has nothing to do with the process.

[Xander187]

The usual time to clear for my unit was 6 months. I was out in 10 days. I had a e7 e6 and e5 escort me everywhere. I made a fus about my dd214 being wrong but my escorts said they were under orders from the cornel to get me out in ten days no matter what. So I really had no option. When I got out I submitted a request to get it changed washington said the evidence from my unit was overwhelming and they would not change it. I got screwed and really nothing I can do about it. My dd214 said that I was only in for a year and 6 months said I only had one metal and never deployed. In reality I was in for 2 years and 11 months I had 5 metals and spent 3 months overseas. I deployed with another unit not mine so that could be why I never got any overseas days on my dd214. It also said I never made any airborne jumps when I did over 12 but my unit doctored up my jump record. I made a fus about it to my co but it was my word against a e7. Of course the e7 wins. After I got out that e7 got court mashiled for shooting a private in the back and remember that thing on the news about soldiers peeing on dead bodies. That was the same e7.

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[Parley]

Since it takes 6 months it sounds like you would have had to extend your stay if they didn't put you out in 10 days. I doubt that would have been good for anyone considering the tension.

I recall the news about Marines peeing on dead bodies but I don't recall hearing anything about Army Soldiers.

I hope you can figure things out soon. I've never been homeless and hope I never am. If you ever get out to St. Louis maybe you can stop in and check out your records in person. Your jump record might be altered but they can't alter your start and end date. I don't believe they consider basic training or AIT and brig time as being on active duty. It's been awhile since I've read up on this stuff so I could be wrong.

[I'm.happy.now]

Originally Posted by Xander187

i recently got kicked out of my moms house it forclosed. im living with my dad. but he doesnt want me living with him. i have a place to live in march but my aunt sister cousins will all not let me live with them for even two weeks. and my dad wants me out. really leaves me stuck. i have no money or income. or job. makes me feel like nobody cares about me. i wanted to comit suiside last night. please help.

If you are still in High School & 17 yrs. or below you must immediately go to your Guidance Counselor.
If you are 18 yrs. or older I suggest going to a Homeless Shelter, and in the morning start looking for a job so you can support yourself and won't ever be in this situation again.
You can do it....Don't be afraid

[Xander187]

Ya considering the cornel was the one wanting me out in 10 days I couldn't extend my stay. Yes they count basic and brig time depending on if u have been convicted. I wasn't convicted. I started oct2009 till 2012. And that thing with the army peeing on dead bodies happened in 2012. It's pretty easy to alter. I use to work in ops and all you have to do is have a e4 get a blank form and type in diffrent dates. That gets sent to the division who clears you with your packet from your unit. All the people know who clear you is what your unit packet says. The only way I found out about my jump record is because when I was in ops I saw that they listed 5 jumps and had a e4 sign after those 5 and closed it. The only way to prove I had more jumps would be to find every jump master who signed my jump record and have them testify against me. Since they changed my jump record you can't find who the jump masters where. My unit did a lot of dirty stuff it's sad that I know how they did it because I wasn't the only one who they did it to. Like I said your just a private against high ranking people who had bonds with other officers from West Point they were all buddies at the academy.

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[growlycat]

Does the Wounded Warriors project help vets w/pstd? I would think they would at least connect you to the right resources?

Or your Congressperson or Senator could step in for you if you contacted them.

I'm sorry you are not getting the treatment you deserve and more than earned. I appreciate your service. If I find anything I'll come back and post.

I had a friend who worked at the VA in the midwest and I was ashamed of some of the stories. We do not treat our vets the way we should.

[growlycat]

Maybe you already saw these organizations , if not check them out

Arizona Veterans StandDown Coalition - Home
https://dvs.az.gov/homelessvets
Phoenix | USVETS | United States Veterans Initiative

[Xander187]

I haven't been to the wwp but went to my congress man. But my unit got involved and I was doomed when that happened. My unit knew what they were doing. They made it so that I would not get any help and my life would suck once I got out. I have applied for dozens of jobs got turned down by all of them.

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[Open Eyes]

Just know you are not alone in struggling to find a job. It isn't "you", it's the economy right now so try be patient and keep trying.