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Old Aug 17, 2005, 08:36 AM
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I originally drafted this on sj's thread, but before I posted it, I realised it probably wasnt appropriate (or supportive perhaps although I wish nothing but good things for everyone here)
So I am starting my own thread.

This thread makes me so sad. I am sorry to make this about me but it really does seem that most doctors and therapists in the UK do NOT care about their patients.

I think maybe some of you in the USA don't realise how "lucky" you are..... to even be still alive and able to post on here. This is NOT directed towards anyone here, it is MY opinion. It is just that, despite what a lot of doctors in the UK seem to think...... WE have feelings too, we hurt too.... but it is harder to express our hurt as we have almost NO valuable or real help.... however hard we try. It seems like we have to literally rip ourselves into shreds to get ANY help.;... and then we are labelled and condemned Trying.... in the UK

Also, as I was labelled as having "Avoidant Personality Disorder" ... which is NOT "treated" at all by the "National Health Service" in the UK Trying.... in the UK..... some might say it is an achievement for me to even post here. (If you look back at my very early posts here.... someone bumped one up just the other day..... they generally disclose almost nothing about me, so there is some progress right there. I too have to hold onto hope, although it often slips right through my hands and I am back in the black pit and struggling with dark and destructive thoughts once again)

sj, if I am still here and trying, and I often wish I wasn't Trying.... in the UK.... I belive you can get through this, and survive and even flourish

Although this thread has "made" me sad, I also thank you sj for the way you verbalise what you are going through. There is no blame towards you from me, or towards anyone here. That is not my style. I know we are all struggling so who am I to condemn or judge my peers (or to judge some as worthy of my support and "caring" while others are not..... which is exactly what many UK doctors and therapists do Trying.... in the UK...)

My best to all,
Fuzzy

PS I feel scared now I have posted this and as if I have done something "wrong" Trying.... in the UK
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Old Aug 17, 2005, 08:54 AM
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Fuzz...No need to apologize. If my posts help me, and in some way help you or anyone to get thoughts out..then this forum site is doing more then anyone could have hoped...right?
Please know that I am glad you are posting.
I write a zillions times better then I can verbalize in words. And you can bounce anything off of me.
I know the pain. I know the deepness of the sadness and the frustration.
I know Fuzzybear....
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Old Aug 17, 2005, 09:13 AM
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Hi fuzzy,

I'm so glad that you posted that!

I've read your posts over the last year and have noticed how kind and considerate you are with everyone; you're a really helpful person. I always wanted to know a little more about you.

Yes, agreed about the doctors here in the UK. They are overstressed and have little time for us. They see us for 5-10 minutes and shove some pills at us and that's it.

Thank goodness for PC.

Nice to talk to you fuzzy,

Peaceful thoughts, M
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Old Aug 17, 2005, 09:14 AM
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oh my sweet fuzzy wuzzy honey bear.....i applaud you for taking a stand and opening up so much.....you have done nothing wrong so don't be scared.....healthcare systems especially for mental health are very different in the uk and the usa.....and yes..we are very lucky here...i pray that you find someone who truly understands your plight.....and fuzzy.please hold on to hope and when you feel yourself slipping.i'm always here for you....
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Old Aug 17, 2005, 09:20 AM
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Fuzzybear the growth in you since *we* became members here is tremendous, you have shown such strength my friend keep going *we* are proud to call you our friend
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Old Aug 17, 2005, 10:19 AM
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fuzzy,

Im moved to tears at your post and wish there was a way i could reach out and get you to hold tight.

I can feel your frustration and disappointment.

What I want to say is have you looked at alternatives?

I find myself strangely willing to share with you. I have a therapist that I pay for privatley - £30 per 2 hr session. We talk about everything and work in some wonderful ways, we have drawn, painted, toys, lots of things. She wrapps me up in a blanket. What im saying Fuzzy is that there are alternatives to the NHS. Yes its expensive and I dont know your financial situation. Have you looked ion the Person Centred Therapy web site? That will give you some ideas about possible places to contact/therapists that you could see. Im sure there is someone out there for you that can help. Please dont think all is lost. Its not Fuzzy, its just that you might have to go out there and find it yourself. Im sending you good will, love and warm cosy cuddles.

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Old Aug 17, 2005, 10:44 AM
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Good post, fuzzy.

I'm one of the "lucky" ones in the uk. I have an extremely supportive GP, and he allows me the time I ned (as he does with all his patients)> Unfortunately, this means his appointments often run late...
My GP has treated me for the past 8 years or so for my depression. He has been creative with medications and is able to tell as I walk in the door how well I am doing.
My practice has a link with a counsellor, and I have just been referred for a further set of sessions with her. I cried when my GP offered me this. I have had two previous referrrals to her from my GP>

Like I say, I am one of the lucky ones. Even so, my referral will give me a maximum of 8 sessions. The counsellor works only two days a week with this practice. When I initially made contact with her at the start of July, she thought it was unlikely she would be able to see me before the end of August. (I was lucky again; she had a cancellation and offered it to me). MY sessions with her are for 50 minutes ad I have one session every two weeks.
My GP has never suggested referring me to the hospital. The local hospital only takes patients on an emergency basis - ie, those who are an immediate threat to themself or to others.

As I stress, I am "lucky" in my treatment. There are many worse off. And the fact that I have only 5 sessions left with my counsellor before paying to see her privately (which fortunately is an optiion) is frightening.

Well done, Fuzzy, for putting the situation so clearly.
Caroline
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Old Aug 17, 2005, 10:56 AM
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i am moved. i hope that you can find the help you need. i have been in that deep dark abyss sinking deeper. what i have to offer is my pm, and my support to you.
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Old Aug 17, 2005, 12:27 PM
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you did not offend me and you do not need to apologize for how you feel. They are your feelings and voicing them is not wrong.......I was so touched by your post that I realized I am so blessed and lucky to have a T that cares about me... I need to stop second guessing him and just let him care for me... I too could sense your frustration and your pain in your post.... I wish I could give you more then I cyber hug.....Fuzzy you are one the kindest most sensitive one I have met here at PC and you are always so supportive...wish there was something I could do to help you......
take care
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Old Aug 17, 2005, 12:54 PM
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Fuzzy,

I just now saw this post, I'm impressed-- you should feel proud! Expressing yourself like you did--- I know too well what an accomplishment that is for those of us Avoidant Personality Disorder strugglers!

Every thread I start- when talking about myself- leaves me feeling horrible, like I don't deserve any attention-compassion or closeness. I hope you can talk yourself out of that way of thinking.

We all have a right to express how we feel and to receive compassion and kindness-- just that some of us aren't used to it. ( saying this for myself as well Trying.... in the UK )-- but that doesn't make it wrong--- it just feels foreign and frightening.

I'm so sorry you have met with indifferent mental health workers. It does sound very difficult in the UK. I've heard from others about the struggles there.

Keep posting..... you are doing the right thing!! We are here listening and caring!
Trying.... in the UK

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Old Aug 17, 2005, 01:19 PM
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(((((((((((((((Fuzzy))))))))))))))

As the others have said, opening up here is a huge step and you should be very proud.

I am sorry to hear about the situation that you, and many others in the UK face regarding mental health care. It is unfortunate that this is taking place. I agree, I think alot of us do not realize how lucky we are as most of us can lose sight and take things for granted. Being reminded how things could be should be a wake up call for us.

I have always thought so highly of you because you have been a great inspiration and support to so many here. Your one of the kindess, most gentle people here and I am so proud of you. Take good care of yourself Fuzzy. Talk to you soon.


Love,


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Old Aug 17, 2005, 01:50 PM
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Trying.... in the UK Trying.... in the UK Trying.... in the UK

Thank you for always being there with a kind word or a hug.

I am sorry times are gruff.

I see how hard you are trying.

C'mon under any time. Trying.... in the UK

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Old Aug 18, 2005, 11:32 AM
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Thank you everyone, I appreciate your replies more than I can say.
I wish I could thank you all individually but you have all helped me get through some very rough times Trying.... in the UK

Love,
Fuzzy
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Old Aug 18, 2005, 03:15 PM
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my darling fuzzy,

I am going to show you something you posted a very long time ago, and I use it on one of my site as a sig..
<font color="purple">
I can't control who makes you smile
I can't control who makes you cry
I can't control if you live or die
I can't control how others act
But I can control how I react
</font>

This is somthing you posted a long time ago, and I have used it many times over.. I love it.. you know why it speaks vloumes on who you are, and how much you truly care.. I lvoe you for this and .. YOu are one of my best online freinds in the whole wrold..

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Old Aug 18, 2005, 05:37 PM
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Thank you for seeing the "truth" about me Trying.... in the UK Trying.... in the UK
btw it doesn't scan quite like my version did but I am glad I was able to help you with my words Trying.... in the UK

Bearhugs,
Fuzzy

btw I think we are all on this journey together and the "slower" ones or those who are perceived by some to be slower are no less valuable than any Queen Bees amongst us Trying.... in the UK
No offence intended.
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Old Aug 19, 2005, 05:38 PM
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no I actually have the orgianlly printed off and in a folder ..
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Old Aug 19, 2005, 05:48 PM
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I bumped the original up and it is on the top "page" on creative corner now! Thanks for reminding me of the post I made (so long ago) and it is very timely for me Trying.... in the UK

It is funny how different people see the same person so differently, huh Trying.... in the UK All in a days work I suppose.

Hoping things get better for you soon, the bear is thinking of you!

Bearhugs,
Fuzzy
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