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Old Sep 02, 2005, 04:52 AM
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ya think? it's nearly 5 am... posted here because it's probably depression that causes it? Otherwise, we'd have an insomniac forum ...wait..that's what the chat room is for at 5 am right? sigh. don't mind me, everything I say after midnight is covered under my disclaimer. ;(
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Old Sep 02, 2005, 06:02 AM
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LOL....sky i'm totally feeling ya here tonight/this morning. i can't sleep at all either. insomnia strikes again. we should start an organization... Insomniacs 'R' Us anyone want to join?

i've gotten so tired that it's taking me a few extra minutes to figure out stuff. tis annoying.

we really do need to start a club and then at 5am when i'm awake i won't be here in chat by myself, lol. and hey, when you're exhausted you're easier to entertain so we could be a funny funny group Insomnia?

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Old Sep 02, 2005, 06:05 AM
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sorry you are struggling
I need a disclaimer too, ggggrrrrrrrr

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Old Sep 02, 2005, 06:28 AM
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I'm here too at 3:15am west coast USA time. My reason - it always takes me a couple days to unwind after CRB meetings. had one today. got in there and the caseworker informs everyone that 15 minutes before the meeting he got a call from a pizza hut saying my son was there - he once again ran away from a residential treatment facility. They got him back to the facility safely. the CRB personnel put in a call to the facility to be sure and my son's therapist joined in the meeting by phone. He's not doing very well. she says compared to the other cases she has he is relatively low mainenace but in the past two weeks he has assaulted the staff and peers, 2 run away attempts and has needed seclusion (a bare but padded room) on more than one occasion. he is also making suicidal threats. He is still too violent for visitation. his diagnosis depression, ptsd with psychotic features. anyway I go on this cycle of anxiety a week before these meetings and then for the next couple days I am cycling back down to normal in the process I don't sleep much. On a good note well not good but good, if I'm not sleeping Im not having my nightly nightmare.
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Old Sep 02, 2005, 09:20 PM
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Yeah, maybe that's behind it too... the horrible remembering of nightmares on the Lunesta. My dose was lowered to 2 mg... but... sigh the longer I'm up the less I think well... this has to stop... I'm supposed to be putting a life together!
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Old Sep 03, 2005, 04:26 AM
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VP of Insomniacs 'R' Us checking in...anyone awake? i'm still here and still tired. bored out of my mind.

i like that i don't have nightmares if i'm not asleep... the problem is that if i don't sleep enough then reality becomes sort of jumbled and memories flash forward and get all mixed in with the present and it's like nightmare-ish daydreaming. it's creepy and unpleasant all around. blah. must. get. sleep.

hope everyone else is having better luck.

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Old Sep 03, 2005, 11:54 AM
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yawn just waking up! nearly noon. This is not good. I reduced the med and now my system is totally squirrelly (sorry sqrlb8)... maybe it's the storm and general anxiety of it all? As if I could remember to tell my MD who might not be listening anyway.. sigh "shrug" as she goes...
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my meds have been changed and sleep is a memory........ Insomnia?
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I hate medication induced nightmares but I personally chose nightmares induced by meds over the one I am having now. When I was on prozac years ago boy did I have some freaky nightmares Dean Kootz could have been writing them for all I knew on that crap. Once I went off it they stopped. Im not on meds now haven't been for about a year- year and a half. I was on paxil but on the stuff I couldnt feel anything basically fake smile and laugh when someone els was kind of thing but no real feelings finally I told my doctor that in order for me to work on my DID I needed to be able to feel so he let me go off it. I had a nightmare while on it but that nightmare was there before I was on it and now its still here and Im off meds. yea the not thinking too well happens to me too. I tried going to the library yesterday but could not focus to get any work done. so I came home and parked it in front of the tv. and if I havent said it yet - you are putting your life together - step one reach out to others - completed Insomnia?
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Old Sep 04, 2005, 03:19 AM
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I'm here tonight but last night when you posted I wasn't I finally fell asleep in front of the tv last night. woke up ready to go.

My first reaction of lack of sleep is that I get giddy and giggly, then spacey and the thought races one after another and yes my flaskbacks get worse and the drawings and peoms starts comming in my attempts to slow it down. eventually I end up in zombe like in front of the tv with my comforet anf cat and fall asleep. then my sleep cycle starts getting normal again. well as normal as I am since I don't sleep 8 hours in one stretch but I do get 8 hours of sleep in a 24 hour time period so its normal but not normal. good luck to you to .
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GGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRr This has to change. I'm so out of balance (well, you all KNEW that...) ... grrrrrrr
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Old Sep 06, 2005, 01:18 AM
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GGGGGG it's after 1 am here.... I need to be asleep by 10 PM that is.. not AM! guess I'm not gonna make that.
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Old Sep 06, 2005, 03:08 AM
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...........it's 3 am............. do you know where my sleep is?

now it's nearly 4 am....
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Old Sep 06, 2005, 04:53 AM
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Sigh... nearly 5 am... gotta keep trying... sigh I have physical therapy at 11 45 a
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Old Sep 10, 2005, 05:33 AM
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and i'm back. mr. sandman must be on vacation. doesn't he have to give some sort of notice saying he's gonna be gone for weeks at a time and that we should find alternate means of getting to sleep? i'm all but ready to bang my head into a wall to get it to shut up.

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Old Sep 10, 2005, 06:13 AM
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hi Im here too. I think my cycle is changing which usually means new memories for me comming up. so I an just going along with it. resting and or sleeping when ever I get the chance. It figures my therapist would be on vacation when I start sleep cycling as I have been calling it. try not to let sleep depravation set in. even if you have to sit back and close your eyes taking a few minutes to concentrate on breathing or as I do heart rate, sitting and relaxing is getting so rest for your body not alot but it helps. A bath too helps me. I always have bubble bath or bath oil in my favorite fragrance which is also relaxing. I have been known to put some of my favoite hand or body lotion in the bath water if I am out of the other two. There is also a cd that I listen to when I cqant sleep its called summer solitude. theres another one to but I cant remember the name but bot cds are under the title Atmopheres relaxation cds and can be bought in the local department stores like shop ko, fred meyer, taget, walmart. hand in there.
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Old Sep 10, 2005, 09:58 AM
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so it's 9:40am and i haven't slept yet. glad to see i'm not alone but sorry that you can't sleep either. and yeah it would figure that your T would be gone when it started, lol. that sucks. hope things even out for you and that you are able to work through what you need to in order to get some shut-eye. and the bath is a good idea, i will try that tonight and see if it helps. Insomnia? thanks Insomnia? i have a few good cds that are like what you're talking about. i'll give it a shot. Insomnia?

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Old Sep 10, 2005, 04:34 PM
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sigh... I worked extra hard at not doing anything last night and trying to crash early so I could wake this morning and go volunteer... and it wasn't worth the effort... I'm totally fatigued, hungry and ... not sure I will be able to last until tonight to sleep.. which means .. ya.... phooey!
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Yea sleep hit me for about three hours then I was up agan, on purpose I stayed up all day hoping I'd have no problem .. (no such luck...here I am again) anyway last night I cleaned the house, did some drawing and painting, wrote in my journal, worked in The Relaxation and Stress Reduction Workbook I just bought a new copy of, printed off some exercises from Nancy J Napiers website and then when I still wasnt settled I spent the rest of the night checking on my emails regarding a missing friend in new orleans and got the breath knocked out of me when someone said they thought they recognized her from one of my posts with the governments missing registrys. I went to where they saw a person matching my friends name and it was indeed my lost friend posting that she was safe and where her and her office has relocated to. So now Im contacting all the agencies that I had looking for her and letting them know she is safe and sound. I can now stop printing off pictures of new orleans and blowing them up to see if I see her in the crowds. Im pretty sure the rest of my sleeping problem is because ofnew memories will be trying to break through. It happens every year around this time. Even if my therapist was available I probably wouldn't call her for this. my not sleeping is not an emergency and if it ever comes to be one I have a back up therapist that I can call. Even though when my main therapist is around I don't call her for stuff like this it still makes me a bit keyed up when she isn't around, just those illogical what if's bouncing around.

I will get some sleep one way or another even if its with the companionship of sir benedryl which always knocks me out for abour 9 hours at a time.

Don't worry things will work out. Ive been through memory cycles many times so I know what to expect (flashbacks, nightmares, panic attacks and all that garbage) there are plans well in place for handling them.

You try and get some sleep too.
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glad you have plans well in place, myself. that sounds like it will go a long way toward helping you get some rest.

hopefully sky, you'll be able to sleep tonight. i hope you made it. Insomnia?

as for me, well 6am and still awake. bored outta my mind and you'd think that would cause sleepiness but oh no, not for me, lol. as soon as i get a new insurance card i'm going to refill my klonopin prescription and i'm knocking myself out. yay for meds! lol

take care you guys. sleep sweet.

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Old Sep 12, 2005, 06:29 AM
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Yea I got some sleep this morning. I took three benedryls and 15 minutes later I was floating and soon was out. its 3:20 am here and not asleep (I slept til noon today so no wonder) but I just took a coupe benedryles so I should be off to sleep soon. Sorry you didnt get any sleep. I've never been on klonopin hope it works for you. and YEAAAA for med at times. I don't know what I would do without benedryl at time like this. My doctor won't prescribe anything stronger than this. (probably afraid I'll agrivate my stomach again (cancer) but thats ok I normally hate taking sleeping pills any way. hang in there sleep will come to you one way or another........ try reading a medical or history textbook yet? definately snooze material there.
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as for me, well 6am and still awake. bored outta my mind and you'd think that would cause sleepiness but oh no, not for me, lol. as soon as i get a new insurance card i'm going to refill my klonopin prescription and i'm knocking myself out. yay for meds! lol
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Me, well it's just about 8:00 am and you are not the only one bored out of your skull. I watched some movies, I re-read the one of the Harry Potter books, I wrote in my diary and this is getting way old. I see my Doc next thursday and I'm going to get something to help with the sleep. I'm trying really hard to hold onto whats left of my furry little mind (Thanks sis) and NOT SLEEPING is NOT helping.

I can hear the bells of St. Mary's going ding, dang, dong in my head and it's just not all that much fun!

I've been resisting the urge to comment here, hoping, praying that if I didn't admit to having such chronic sleep problems, they would go away. Damn, now I can't deny being delusionall, great . . . A girl just can't win for losing sometimes.

Does the Klonopin really help and are there any side effects that I should worry about? Is it habit forming? I'm starting to worry about how many benadryls I have to take 2 or 3 everynight and then I sleep till noon and it's a fitfull up every hour or two to tinkle . . . So I know that's not a good thing to do for too long. Oh, I'm babbling now . . . srry . . .
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Old Sep 12, 2005, 08:21 AM
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i dunno if klonopin is habit forming although i do believe it is best to be careful. i haven't had any unpleasant side effects but that's just me.

i don't know about the bell's of st. mary but something is banging around in my head...i think it might be someone playing pinball with my brain. 8:13am and no sleep for me either. and i have class today so that's gonna suck. don't worry 'bout babbling, tis a side effect of insomnia. look at me, i do it all the time Insomnia? oh and being delusional is another side effect Insomnia? again, look at me Insomnia?

myself, YAY for getting sleep!!! i haven't tried a history or science textbook yet but they're my next option. i tried some instruction manuals but they just bored me...not to sleep though, go figure.

right now i'm just sitting and watching my sleeping cat on my printer waiting for the next time that she relaxes too much and slides off. it's so funny...but i think that's the insomnia talking again. Insomnia?

hope everyone has a good day...i will probably be completed retarded by the end of it since my functioning has already slowed down to an abysmal level.

"who needs sleep? yeah we're never gonna get it! who needs sleep? tell me what's that for.....?"

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i dunno if klonopin is habit forming although i do believe it is best to be careful. i haven't had any unpleasant side effects but that's just me.

i don't know about the bell's of st. mary but something is banging around in my head...i think it might be someone playing pinball with my brain. 8:13am and no sleep for me either. and i have class today so that's gonna suck. don't worry 'bout babbling, tis a side effect of insomnia. look at me, i do it all the time Insomnia? oh and being delusional is another side effect Insomnia? again, look at me Insomnia?

myself, YAY for getting sleep!!! i haven't tried a history or science textbook yet but they're my next option. i tried some instruction manuals but they just bored me...not to sleep though, go figure.

right now i'm just sitting and watching my sleeping cat on my printer waiting for the next time that she relaxes too much and slides off. it's so funny...but i think that's the insomnia talking again. Insomnia?

hope everyone has a good day...i will probably be completed retarded by the end of it since my functioning has already slowed down to an abysmal level.

"who needs sleep? yeah we're never gonna get it! who needs sleep? tell me what's that for.....?"

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Thanks, I'll talk to my Doc about it or something similar. I managed with the help of a couple of benadryls to get a couple of hours sleep, but still nothing like the solid 8 hours I used to get back in the day . . .

My cat bubba, oh my goddess he was SO funny so much of the time I really, really miss him. He'd sleep at the edge of things all the time, top step of the stairs, edge of a table, whatnot. He'd always wakeup, yawn, stretch and roll over . . . The look on his face was just priceless that split second as he realized there was nothing beneath him. Kind of like cartoons only funnier!!! He was also drawn to and facinated by the DVD placer. He was also terrified of it, but had this compulsion to be near it. Right at eye level (his) he'd try and sneak up on it to sniff it or lick it (I really think he is a dog in a cat suit) and one of us would hit eject on the remote! Instant popcorn! He'd go straight up and back with his tail and the rest of his fur puffed up huge . . . and he'd never learn, like I say he was drawn to it! The first time he fell down the stairs he wouldn't go near the top step for weeks thinking it had pushed him, then after a while he somehow decided that falling down the stairs was fun and we'd here kitty paws thumping, thundering up the stairs, and then kitty body thumping down the stairs. Bubba was whacked!!! I think he could of used medication, I mean sure the stairs were a deep pile carpet with padding, but still how could that not hurt?

Frell, I'm still babbling, you can just call me Brooke (oh to have her looks and money!) if you like.

The bells of St. Mary's is a reference to one of my favorite movies "Under The Tuscan Sun"

Okay now that's scary, Social Security Administration just called to confirm my appointment tomorrow, nearly gave me a heart attack the phone ringing like that . . .

I was looking at the criteria for disability and it kind of hammered home how much trouble I'm in since I'll fly through the "qulification process" having more than the required number of "problems" to be considered mentally disabled. I guess it's more than time to stop trying to sell myself the idea that everything is going to magically get better on night while I'm sleeping . . .

Ah HA!!! You see, there's the problem, I don't sleep, so the magic cannot happen . . . Hum, someone want to club me with a bat or something?

So I think I need to go try a nap now, or at least calm down some from the phone ringing. Crap and I thought I was making progress today . . . Oh Godess I'm so very tired . . .

Hang in there and thanks.
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