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Old Apr 21, 2014, 01:14 PM
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I am usually trying to cheer up others and working to make the most of my life by sharing knowledge. Depression has it's "triggers" and for me it comes in the form of often someone not listening to me and judging me before I can convey my thoughts. I can accept that no one is perfect but in my life I have met this issue numerous times. Generally I am told that "well so and so says this about you" and I am supposed to react with "oh sure, exactly like you say." But instead I am confronted with this statement and I say "I am not sure where this comes from but this is what is really happening." Then I get blown off in response to my own observations.

My recent trip to a psychologist was this way for me. I expressed interactions that have occurred in the past showing a way of treating me that had nothing to do with professionalism and positive interaction but instead belittling and misunderstandings that had more to do with the person bringing up the issue than in something I had done or said.

For example. My mother came over today and preached about God and the power of prayer and why or why do I not turn to God and save my soul from going to hell. I told her I pray each day and being a loving person who cares for others as I would care for myself is all that can be expected of me from God. She just went on yammering the same old song and dance about specific prayers and what God promises if I got to specifically the Catholic church and do these Catholic things.

Just retelling this is making me feel angry again. She left an hour ago and I was upset as I told her about the visit with the psychologist and his way of glossing over my life's experiences with a broad brush saying that I need to go to CBT (which from what I see on this forum is the answer for everything having to do with the psyche).

She started with the usual comments that all my stories are the same (they are far from it) in each case of being fired or quitting a job. I tried to reply and each time I was met with this reply and how "you don't listen, you just know everything." In fact I do not know everything but I research all I can before trying to develop a point of view or claim any knowledge of the topic of discussion. In the end as which is often the case she left in a huff stating that "well it sounds like you have all the answers" in reply to my interpretation of CBT and the mental help I am seeking. I guess I expected a listening ear and positive encouragement but instead it was the same old song of my ability to work in any job involving other people.

I have covered the issue in my introduction to the forum but in all cases I am not into the "stuff" my co-workers are into and in time the gossip starts and the management catches wind of these gossipy conversations. I am "not a team player" develops because I refuse to go a strip club or hang out at a bar after work. Truth be told if I am in an office with the same people for 8 hours each day then why the hell would I spend my off hours with them as well? I know nothing of sports yet it dominates every place I have been. You can feel the cold shoulder reactions from others when you cannot join in the talk. I just smile and nod my head and say things like "Go "insert team here."

Of course in retrospect I am into physics and science and I can't bring these topics up as in the past I met with "what do you think you know everything?" or the famous "if that's all true why are you working here?"

Talking about these happenings in my life has no effect on my perception or in dealing with the environments I would come to find myself in but yet I lead to believe that a therapist is going to offer me sage advice that until now has escaped me in searching for answers all over the internet and in myself. This has me utterly befuddled. In the very least writing this makes me feel better because I can see my line of thought laid out in black/white to review. But in the end it is venting that makes this feel better but changes nothing in real life.

Anyone have thoughts on these thoughts and observations?

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Old Apr 21, 2014, 01:54 PM
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what I get from what you are saying is that there is nobody that you can really talk to, let me rephrase that, nobody who really listens to you, accepts what you have to say and interacts with who you are. expresses an interest in what you are saying. that is really difficult when you have a t who is not accepting of what you have to say. my t of 3 years minimized me at every turn. I used to think it was a good thing. he was normalizing everything I had such great concerns about. but this ended up creating such crippling anxiety for me. I wouldn't bother telling him things that concerned me because I knew he would blow them off. I now have a t that has such sincerity. she believes and validates anything I say. I think I could make up **** and she would believe it. today I told he I thought some of the trauma stuff I was remembering must be from past lives because I could not make sense of it in this lifetime and she even accepted that...lol...but you need to find someone who will validate you, plain and simple....btw...I love your avatar..it always makes me so happy to see it.
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Old Apr 21, 2014, 06:48 PM
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what I get from what you are saying is that there is nobody that you can really talk to, let me rephrase that, nobody who really listens to you, accepts what you have to say and interacts with who you are. expresses an interest in what you are saying. that is really difficult when you have a t who is not accepting of what you have to say. my t of 3 years minimized me at every turn. I used to think it was a good thing. he was normalizing everything I had such great concerns about. but this ended up creating such crippling anxiety for me. I wouldn't bother telling him things that concerned me because I knew he would blow them off. I now have a t that has such sincerity. she believes and validates anything I say. I think I could make up **** and she would believe it. today I told he I thought some of the trauma stuff I was remembering must be from past lives because I could not make sense of it in this lifetime and she even accepted that...lol...but you need to find someone who will validate you, plain and simple....btw...I love your avatar..it always makes me so happy to see it.
Thank you Kaliope,

I am also wondering what will happen as I am just not encouraged by much of what I have seen and heard regarding CBT and therapy in general. I was trying to show the psychologist that all the firings from work and stress from co-workers has created some kind of PTSD in me. I feel shocked whenever I get called into an office for something even when it's positive. I don't see that and my new apathetic view of finding another job changing anytime soon. Will Telling Someone Make A Difference?
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Old Apr 21, 2014, 07:23 PM
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Reading your post LaborIntensive, brings several "principles" to mind which I have come to believe are true based on my own experience: 1st is that nobody (in real life) really cares if I'm depressed & suicidal. Their own problems, whatever they are, are just as bad or worse. 2. There must be great therapists / psychologists somewhere. I keep reading / hearing about them. But none of them reside or practice within a radius of light years from where I live. 3. Sports is a disease which infects the vast majority of humanity. I just happen to be one of the unlucky few who happen to have natural immunity. And anyone with this immunity might as well forget about any kind of grudging acceptance, let alone friendship, from those who have the bug. 4. And last, but not least, the more I do for people around me, the more they hate me. Please excuse me. I'm not usually this sarcastic. But it does have a way of bubbling to the surface every so often...
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Old Apr 21, 2014, 07:44 PM
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Reading your post LaborIntensive, brings several "principles" to mind which I have come to believe are true based on my own experience: 1st is that nobody (in real life) really cares if I'm depressed & suicidal. Their own problems, whatever they are, are just as bad or worse. 2. There must be great therapists / psychologists somewhere. I keep reading / hearing about them. But none of them reside or practice within a radius of light years from where I live. 3. Sports is a disease which infects the vast majority of humanity. I just happen to be one of the unlucky few who happen to have natural immunity. And anyone with this immunity might as well forget about any kind of grudging acceptance, let alone friendship, from those who have the bug. 4. And last, but not least, the more I do for people around me, the more they hate me. Please excuse me. I'm not usually this sarcastic. But it does have a way of bubbling to the surface every so often...
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Old Apr 28, 2014, 03:34 PM
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The only thing I can say is I kind of know what that feels like, when you just don't fit in anywhere and people just don't get you. I personally don't care for that feeling anymore, because I don't think it's something we did or didn't do.

And, if you want my honest opinion, I recommend you stay away from the Catholic Church (sorry to any Roman Catholics that may be offended). Do yourself a favour and read Revelations in the Bible (the final book), if you haven't done so already to find out why.
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I often feel the same way as you do, like people don't really understand me or want to understand me and that makes you feel alone. Been there done that with not fitting in at work. In fact, I seem to always get in trouble at work but they don't fire me. Sometimes people talk about me behind my back. They think Im "crazy." I hate when you try to explain what your depression is like and people start to judge you. That makes it that much worse I don't have a therapist but the way you describe yours I think I'll save my money. I pray and talk to God. I grew up Catholic. I remember the nuns, Sacraments and rigid authority. Family is not always helpful. They don't understand. Vent away my friend. I truly appreciate the kind support you have always given me on this site.
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Old Apr 28, 2014, 08:26 PM
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trying to tell people, to get them to understand, to see my view always just got me into more angst. No point in trying to be understood if they never will try to. So i'm different and fine with it. no point in getting people to understand.
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