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Old Jun 30, 2017, 01:00 PM
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fuzzy I cant believe the unimaginable suffering that we all go thru...it is hard to tell about the depth of fear...
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Old Jun 30, 2017, 03:02 PM
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what I am most interested in ....is getting at the truth...
and I think part of the truth------it is important to treat each other with kindness..
that works for me...that is my truth...
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Old Jun 30, 2017, 03:05 PM
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what I am most interested in ....is getting at the truth...
and I think part of the truth------it is important to treat each other with kindness..
that works for me...that is my truth...
I'm sorry if I sound like an echo... you have the ability to voice the thoughts something (or somebody?) forces me to remain silent about,

And this is my truth.
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Old Jun 30, 2017, 03:41 PM
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i really hope i don't end up in any sort of hospital, ever.

They scare the crap out of me...

I appreciate that you allow feelings in this thread

As without feelings what would we all be
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Old Jun 30, 2017, 03:53 PM
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thank you so much fuzzy for sharing your feelings...
you inspire me...
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Old Jul 01, 2017, 06:01 AM
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i want to know what is going on in psychiatry...i don't like what i see..
i just see an avalanche of drugs...people making money
i see a dsm5 that makes us into a number...
i don't like this...aren't we are all human beings...
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Old Jul 01, 2017, 06:38 AM
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is the doctor above the patient.....no no no no no no no
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Old Jul 01, 2017, 06:57 AM
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the doctor should be a partner with us solving a problem..
what do we have now----a doctor giving us a diagnosis and a drug..
what kind of therapy is that...i am angry fuzzy

i am angry about psychiatry...what has happened to psychiatry..
how can i deal with my anger...i need help here..
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Old Jul 01, 2017, 07:01 AM
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i am a screwed up doctor psychiatrist..
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Old Jul 01, 2017, 09:01 AM
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confessions of little turtle

I'm listening.... I wish more doctors listened
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Old Jul 01, 2017, 09:33 AM
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I have a problem. How do I express myself without offending the offenders? I have sometimes found this when attempting to talk to a professional

How do I help them to listen?

This continues to be an issue for me with NHS workers. I am not sure what I'm doing wrong, how much clearer and more concise do I need to be?
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Old Jul 01, 2017, 09:38 AM
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I have a problem. How do I express myself without offending the offenders? I have sometimes found this when attempting to talk to a professional

How do I help them to listen?

This continues to be an issue for me with NHS workers. I am not sure what I'm doing wrong, how much clearer and more concise do I need to be?
fuzzy can you give an example...this is a tough problem
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Old Jul 01, 2017, 09:48 AM
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I told one doctor about my severe anxiety ... they prescribed betnovate - a strong steroid - to use on my face and spoke so quickly it wasn't easy to follow what they said.. or it would have been hard to follow if they had used a vocabulary that I would expect from an educated individual

I did NOT use the betnovate, I believe this is very wrong to use on the face, ugh.

They prescribed another AD but said there probably won't be a med I'm not allergic to.

The conversation was about 8 minutes, longer than "average" in the uk
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Old Jul 01, 2017, 10:01 AM
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I told one doctor about my severe anxiety ... they prescribed betnovate - a strong steroid - to use on my face and spoke so quickly it wasn't easy to follow what they said.. or it would have been hard to follow if they had used a vocabulary that I would expect from an educated individual

I did NOT use the betnovate, I believe this is very wrong to use on the face, ugh.

They prescribed another AD but said there probably won't be a med I'm not allergic to.

The conversation was about 8 minutes, longer than "average" in the uk
i couldn't deal with that...i am shy..i am not confident....8 minutes is not long enough for me...they are in too much of a hurry...i would get mad fuzzy
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Old Jul 03, 2017, 07:31 AM
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another confession today....this may be important for me...
I have wanted to be loved by others...unconditionally...
that is not going to happen in my life....
my mother came the closest...but she is dead..
my father did not love me...he didn't want me..

the real problem----I am having a very hard time loving myself unconditionally..
I hate myself for having a mental illness...I tend to think it was my fault..
that is not very loving of myself...I was a good kid...I did some bad things..

I really need to deal with my own stuff/ssst now before I die...
why...because I want to be happier....I just need to be more loving toward my own self..
maybe this is the most important thing to do in life...to go to the bedrock of who you actually are in real life...

I will start now...I am very lazy...I am able to think a lot about the causes of everything..
I think it is important right now to love myself...not hate myself...
I hate myself for breaking down 3 times...
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Old Jul 03, 2017, 02:01 PM
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(((((((( little turtle ))))))))

You keep sharing, you keep giving. You're a wonderful little turtle
You're a great example to so many ...... including me
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Old Jul 03, 2017, 05:34 PM
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I lied to myself, saying I loved myself- and eventually it came true. ❤️
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Old Jul 04, 2017, 09:48 AM
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I lied to myself, saying I loved myself- and eventually it came true. ❤️
can you say more about how that worked for you...
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I would repeat it daily. I tried to treat myself as if I loved myself. Thinking, if I loved myself, what would I do right now? It is the opposite idea of repeatedly saying negative things to myself. It didn't happen overnight. It took years of time, patience, and practice. You can be nice to someone even if you do not like them. With time, you might start to like them- they grow on you. I hope this is helpful. Sorry if not.
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Old Jul 05, 2017, 09:57 AM
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I don't think I hate myself really..
but I really hate life..once I got to know about it...
I had nothing to do about being born..
I haven't done all the terrible things people have done..
and now I am getting close to dying...I dont like reality
I want to live forever...and be off my celexa
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Old Jul 05, 2017, 10:06 AM
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I don't think I hate myself really..
but I really hate life..once I got to know about it...
I had nothing to do about being born..
I haven't done all the terrible things people have done..
and now I am getting close to dying...I dont like reality
I want to live forever...and be off my celexa
I wish I could give you a few of my years little turtle, then you could live longer

I hate life too.. once I got to know about it (not all of it - I appreciate the beauty in life)

I don't like "reality" ...
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Old Jul 06, 2017, 04:56 PM
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I wish I could give you a few of my years little turtle, then you could live longer

I hate life too.. once I got to know about it (not all of it - I appreciate the beauty in life)

I don't like "reality" ...
fuzzy you are helping a lot of people here...
the reality I don't like is----------
life is so disappointing because you have to die...
and people are so hateful and judgmental...
it makes me so sad
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Old Jul 08, 2017, 07:24 AM
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today I hate psych meds...I am angry at the drug companies...and the doctors that taught me how great they were...they have some use...but there is a lot of BS out there about anti-depressants..
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Old Jul 08, 2017, 08:59 AM
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I like to have FAITH in the truth about depression...
I still have some HOPE but not much...
the most important thing about mental health care is LOVE...
I do not like the hatred that I am seeing...
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