[Humpty Dumpty]

I was on a another general forum & I posted that I was looking for a depression or suicide support group in my area. It is a real good thing I can't reach through the Internet. This one idiot responds "Jesus is all you need." Seriously? If I had cancer would you tell me the same thing? Don't get me wrong I am a very religious person, but I know better than to think "Jesus is all I need".
I hate idiots.

Originally Posted by Humpty Dumpty

I was on a another general forum & I posted that I was looking for a depression or suicide support group in my area. It is a real good thing I can't reach through the Internet. This one idiot responds "Jesus is all you need." Seriously? If I had cancer would you tell me the same thing? Don't get me wrong I am a very religious person, but I know better than to think "Jesus is all I need".
I hate idiots.

Hey Humpty, this is stupid or may be out of knowledge. I have heard the same. I should quit all my medications and trust in God!

I think sometime we who suffer, have to be the strongest!

I don't know if this can be of any help, but the Bipolar and Depression Support Alliance has online forums were people meet at specified times.

Send my best hopes!

Another interesting topic.
He's lucky that his faith is all he needs. Would sure make life less complicated. Of course, maybe he has a "garden variety" type of depression or none at all. I think everyone gets depressed but it becomes mental illness when you can't shake it. When it's deeper, more intense and entrenched than the "garden variety". Then there are some of us who find ourselves so unsure of "things unseen" that we it would be hypocrisy to pray. Our wavering makes us unable to benefit from this kind of thinking. Blessed are the faithful. I'm happy they can find some sort of peace!

[leomama]

Yes I get offended when I see that. I'm a Christian and I don't even wear my cross some days because I don't want the attention. I appreciate your post.

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Originally Posted by leomama

Yes I get offended when I see that. I'm a Christian and I don't even wear my cross some days because I don't want the attention. I appreciate your post.

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I believe in God too and that is part of the problem. There is nobody to talk too (at least it is so in my parish). If you talk, you might get an answer that make you more miserable because there is given a message, that either direct or indirect tells you that you are depressed because you don't trust God enough.

The second pit one can risk to fall into as a depressed Christian is that the others want to show God how much they love their neighbor and so they send hurtful messages almost like this: "I (the great helper, almost from Heaven) of course want to include you (the sick, crawling around in your own pit)". Even their body language tells it, one up one down!

[leomama]

Originally Posted by Singer47

I believe in God too and that is part of the problem. There is nobody to talk too (at least it is so in my parish). If you talk, you might get an answer that make you more miserable because there is given a message, that either direct or indirect tells you that you are depressed because you don't trust God enough.


The second pit one can risk to fall into as a depressed Christian is that the others want to show God how much they love their neighbor and so they send hurtful messages almost like this: "I (the great helper, almost from Heaven) of course want to include you (the sick, crawling around in your own pit)". Even their body language tells it, one up one down!

I actually don't attend church very much these days because of family problems and I used to be in the center of the liturgical life of the church. I am sure it is hard for my priest to witness. I'm having a huge problem with my daughter. As I am a convert I'm inexperienced with teenagers in the church. My divorce only complicates things even more as does the fact that nobody in my family of origin is in the church. Furthermore my church is located in another town and since I don't have a car I have to get rides or take the bus which means I have to leave early to get there on time . I'm not willing to leave my daughter at home alone so I can go to church as she has substance abuse and mental health problems. It's a big mess. I was actually trying to address that in another forum but I got flamed and I retreated. Maybe this is a better forum for me. Thank you for allowing me to participate .

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Originally Posted by leomama

Maybe this is a better forum for me. Thank you for allowing me to participate .

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I'm glad I met you! If it wasn't for the fact that this is a secular forum I would have written that God must have sent you. (I shall not say so much about God here of respect for the others that perhaps don't believe in a higher power, but perhaps we can PM each other some time).

Have things to do, so I have to go!

[leomama]

Feel free to pm . I have my own special brand of followers, so some of them may end up on this thread. Feel free to say what you want to me on your thread. I've been through it all and I don't want to talk about it publicly out of respect not only for all the people involved but first and foremost myself.

[Humpty Dumpty]

Originally Posted by Singer47

I don't know if this can be of any help, but the Bipolar and Depression Support Alliance has online forums were people meet at specified times.

I have been on the DBSA's website and saw nothing of this. Could you send me a link to the info? My problem is everything I have found local meets at night during the week, generally Tuesdays and Thursdays, but I work nights and there is no possible way I can go short of changing job positions & losing hours/money.

[PurplePanda999]

I used to know a girl who felt that way about her diabetes medication. She died. Note: she did this on her own. Her faith group, although believing in faith healing dd NOT explicitly encourage her to go without her medication.

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[little turtle]

whatever works for YOU...

I'm a Christian, too, and there are times that I've heard that. I believe there is some truth to it, but it's just a pat answer. I've heard remarks such as: "thank Jesus for all that you have" (I do, but that's not enough for me), "you need more Faith", and others.

I want to be empathic and understanding for those suffering depression. I definitely will not make any kind of judgment statements if someone were to tell me that they suffer from it.

[arich62]

I do believe that God helps those who help themselves. But provides us with the doctors and resources we must seek and does not perform magic or miracles with depressive illness. I guess just work at it hard and try to get the intense anger turned internal out of our system. Write out your negative feelings, journal, no matter how twisted and embarrassing those thoughts seem. I

I beg your pardon but I find this offensive

[Humpty Dumpty]

Originally Posted by justafriend306

I beg your pardon but I find this offensive

What exactly do you find offensive?

[dexter]

Originally Posted by Humpty Dumpty

I have been on the DBSA's website and saw nothing of this. Could you send me a link to the info? My problem is everything I have found local meets at night during the week, generally Tuesdays and Thursdays, but I work nights and there is no possible way I can go short of changing job positions & losing hours/money.

Some DBSA groups meet in the afternoons on weekends. I go to DBSA groups regularly and they help me a lot. You would have to check to see if there are any afternoon groups in your area.

Start here: Find a support Group - Depression and Bipolar Support Alliance

(These are for in-person meeting groups, not "online". Groups typically meed once a week in the same place at the same time... But some groups meet once a month or twice a month.)

[Jenny R]

I am not Christian, in fact I am agnostic. I read a story about a blind man who was asked by his taxi driver, did you pray? No one can pray away blindness or depression or any other disease. I do not believe God picks favorites.

I found ALANON helpful. It is not for depression per se, but if you had alcoholism in your family, it can help you cope. I learned many people skills there.

[Humpty Dumpty]

Originally Posted by dexter

Some DBSA groups meet in the afternoons on weekends. I go to DBSA groups regularly and they help me a lot. You would have to check to see if there are any afternoon groups in your area.

Start here: Find a support Group - Depression and Bipolar Support Alliance

(These are for in-person meeting groups, not "online". Groups typically meed once a week in the same place at the same time... But some groups meet once a month or twice a month.)

Thanks but all the meetings in my area (I even searched in a city 1 hour away) meet at night during the week. I finally found the online group & that doesn't really work for me either. oh well

Originally Posted by Humpty Dumpty

I have been on the DBSA's website and saw nothing of this. Could you send me a link to the info? My problem is everything I have found local meets at night during the week, generally Tuesdays and Thursdays, but I work nights and there is no possible way I can go short of changing job positions & losing hours/money.

Scroll down this page an you will find it:

DBSA Online Support Groups - Depression and Bipolar Support Alliance

[GRUMPYPA]

If there was a God and we end up going to a better place why are all the religious people still here ?? Sorry I don't believe if he is a loving God why give kids cancer?

[Humpty Dumpty]

Originally Posted by GRUMPYPA

If there was a God and we end up going to a better place why are all the religious people still here ?? Sorry I don't believe if he is a loving God why give kids cancer?

I believe in God but I am not going to try & force/convince you to. Nor will I berate you because of it. You have just as much a right to your opinion as I do. We can just agree to disagree.

[dexter]

Originally Posted by Humpty Dumpty

Thanks but all the meetings in my area (I even searched in a city 1 hour away) meet at night during the week. I finally found the online group & that doesn't really work for me either. oh well

Sorry Humpty. Hope you are able to find something. Someone suggested Al-Anon I think that is a great idea if it is appropriate for your situation.

[Humpty Dumpty]

Originally Posted by dexter

Sorry Humpty. Hope you are able to find something. Someone suggested Al-Anon I think that is a great idea if it is appropriate for your situation.

Thanks but I don't drink & have never had a problem with alcohol.

[ADeepSandbox]

Oh, how I get this. My mother is like this and blames all my mental health issues on me not reading the bible enough or not praying enough. She didn't see me crying myself to sleep while praying every night for months straight so I know she means well but frankly is full of it. My faith helps me hold on to the edge with my fingernails but it sure as heck doesn't make me feel better. And going to other Christians for support is always a risk because the first reaction seems to be to blame you for being sick and then gossip about you with everybody. I don't go to church anymore, I trust God but I can't stand people anymore.