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Old Dec 31, 2016, 10:22 PM
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Think about it. Everyone thinks that just because the calendar switches over to another year means that things will change for the better.

Just look at the world around you. All the wishes, all the prayer, and all the other stuff that doesn't do a thing.

There's still injustice, unfairness, the list goes on. I long ago stopped pretending and making New Years resolutions.

I feel like a square peg in a round world surrounded by people who are all happy and celebrating tonight. I just don't get it.

Better to have no expectations because no expectations means no disappointments.
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Old Jan 01, 2017, 12:37 AM
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I have felt the same way for a long time now. Thank you for posting. It makes me feel less alone. When I tell most people I know how I feel about New Years they get defensive. But I honestly don't see the point, so the calendar changed, it does every month and day too. It just feels a bit all for not.
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Old Jan 01, 2017, 10:38 AM
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I feel the same

I think it's overrated, and I don't know why it means so much to so many people

(do you celebrate the start of a new month?. no. so why a new year). it's just celebrating the start of another january

pointless... and would you look at that- it's now the first day of 2017, i'm still here, i'm still not coping, still unsure of myself, well done new year... you've really worked your magic
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Old Jan 01, 2017, 12:14 PM
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Think about it. Everyone thinks that just because the calendar switches over to another year means that things will change for the better.

Just look at the world around you. All the wishes, all the prayer, and all the other stuff that doesn't do a thing.

There's still injustice, unfairness, the list goes on. I long ago stopped pretending and making New Years resolutions.

I feel like a square peg in a round world surrounded by people who are all happy and celebrating tonight. I just don't get it.

Better to have no expectations because no expectations means no disappointments.
I agree with you.
It is an artificial benchmark.
At least, before people celebrated harvest time. It makes more sense to me.
I am pasting below a reflection about this habit of celebrating New Year

I hate New Year's Day by Antonio Gramsci

This text was first published in Avanti!, Turin edition, from his column “Sotto la Mole,” January 1, 1916.

Every morning, when I wake again under the pall of the sky, I feel that for me it is New Year’s day.

That’s why I hate these New Year’s that fall like fixed maturities, which turn life and human spirit into a commercial concern with its neat final balance, its outstanding amounts, its budget for the new management. They make us lose the continuity of life and spirit. You end up seriously thinking that between one year and the next there is a break, that a new history is beginning; you make resolutions, and you regret your irresolution, and so on, and so forth. This is generally what’s wrong with dates.

They say that chronology is the backbone of history. Fine. But we also need to accept that there are four or five fundamental dates that every good person keeps lodged in their brain, which have played bad tricks on history. They too are New Years’. The New Year’s of Roman history, or of the Middle Ages, or of the modern age.

And they have become so invasive and fossilising that we sometimes catch ourselves thinking that life in Italy began in 752, and that 1490 or 1492 are like mountains that humanity vaulted over, suddenly finding itself in a new world, coming into a new life. So the date becomes an obstacle, a parapet that stops us from seeing that history continues to unfold along the same fundamental unchanging line, without abrupt stops, like when at the cinema the film rips and there is an interval of dazzling light.

That’s why I hate New Year’s. I want every morning to be a new year’s for me. Every day I want to reckon with myself, and every day I want to renew myself. No day set aside for rest. I choose my pauses myself, when I feel drunk with the intensity of life and I want to plunge into animality to draw from it new vigour.

No spiritual time-serving. I would like every hour of my life to be new, though connected to the ones that have passed. No day of celebration with its mandatory collective rhythms, to share with all the strangers I don’t care about. Because our grandfathers’ grandfathers, and so on, celebrated, we too should feel the urge to celebrate. That is nauseating.

I await socialism for this reason too. Because it will hurl into the trash all of these dates which have no resonance in our spirit and, if it creates others, they will at least be our own, and not the ones we have to accept without reservations from our silly ancestors.
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Old Jan 01, 2017, 12:32 PM
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I'm stupid. I'm bad. I don't hate New Year's, I'm just indifferent to it. I often find myself mildly anticipating "changeovers" like New Year's or my birthday, even though I have no desire to celebrate. I don't believe in the "arbitrariness" of calendars, using the change to a new year as a mark for renewal is no different than using the start of a new week or month to make a change. Hell, i even took part in a "2017 master plan" project, planning out and organizing goals to start or accomplish starting in the new year. It seemed as good a time as any and the structure was helpful, I didn't realize it was bad...

I don't hate holidays or see anything stupid or bad in them, I just don't care for celebration.

EDIT: You guys know that calendar time isn't completely arbitrary, right? Days refer to the rotation of the Earth, months follow lunar cycles, and one year is one revolution around the sun. Sure, you think, but what's the big deal about going around the sun - I think it makes a little more sense if you think about it symbolically. Like, the Earth is restarting its course around the sun, so we get to restart whatever efforts or goals we have, we get some time of renewal. Of course, it's hard to care about any of that when your days tend to blend together anyway.

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Old Jan 01, 2017, 11:03 PM
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I feel the same

I think it's overrated, and I don't know why it means so much to so many people

(do you celebrate the start of a new month?. no. so why a new year). it's just celebrating the start of another january

pointless... and would you look at that- it's now the first day of 2017, i'm still here, i'm still not coping, still unsure of myself, well done new year... you've really worked your magic

Well said!

And I'm glad I'm not alone in the way I think.

Thanks everyone for the replies.
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Old Jan 02, 2017, 05:26 AM
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What's not so cliche about this thread? This won't have as much of an impact if this weren't posted when it was posted. I liked that cosmic explanation of the calender Scientia wrote in the edited part. I usually pass the time this time of the year thinking about animal life, because they would be care less about what every human are doing.

I believe I'm alone, we can do away with not rating too much, so it's not a matter of over or under anything, if anyone wants to go fight against big religion of this world, please go on ahead and discuss how the prayers are supposed to work or not.

Polarization of opinions about this subject is so last century. You guys didn't wanna feel alone and got what you wanted. Oh, I also like the word 'Master Plan', this is the time in history that we all need to be aware of the puppet masters of the world, and fight against all the brainwashing schemes that started before anyone became conscious in our lives.

Does anyone have big great ideas about opposing this new years celebration? I bet nobody did anything to stop 2017 new year party, so this is a pointless complaint, one could take a stand and try to devalue the fake value that everyone seems to like.

To me, the calender time is for the history that we leave behind us, and it is possible that this cliche is the manifestation of the slave-master morality dance, ressentiment and negations are teaching tools for higher understandings of our position in the history, and I think the Clara's little article speaks a bit of truth about me too. I prefer not to feel nauseating every day, on one side, people get drunk and puking on a celebration party, and on the other, that human behavior that some people don't agree with still looks nauseatingly interesting to write their opinions about. By the way, I've read that the evil master prime minister of my country was playing golf with another evil master on this day, who performs and says opinions abut economic policies and they all just keep affecting the sheep herd, well,,, tradition, is pain in the arse! What more can I say?

Isolated One, I wished you wrote your original post with a bit more investigations into the life of people who likes to celebrate the beginning of the calender year every year. The OP sounds a bit anti-religious, and I think that's the unfairness to many many people's human rights. All lives matters, the constructs are already there. After all we've seen and haven't done a thing to make us feel that we've made the change, only humans can grasp the ideas of all we do. Deep programming and our wild behaviors can't end in destructions, soupy poop, that's just indigestion. It's all there, the spatial matters, distortions and obstacles are a lot to handle, yet we live on as if there's no last year.
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Old Jan 02, 2017, 07:31 AM
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I enjoy celebrating Christmas but I can't really get into New Years. I find as I get older time goes by quicker. It seems like we just started 2016. One year kind of starts to blend in with the next for me.

I no longer make New Years resolutions because I find I cannot keep them, then this just fuels depression and despair for me. I also like to just take one day at a time right now. I get up in the morning and ask God to help me do well with school and work for today. This seems to work better for me.

At my husband's request I did attend the fireworks at the beach although I was so tired I would have been happy to stay home. The fireworks were great though. It was the first time we went to fireworks at the beach.

I am a Southern American and we have lots of traditions and superstitions surrounding New Years. I used to always cook Hoppin' John and collard greens for New Years. (Hoppin' John is black eyed peas or red peas served with rice.) Hoppin' John is supposed to bring good luck for the New Years. You eat collard greens to bring money in the New Year. I did so much cooking for Christmas I did not feel like cooking all this stuff for New Year's. I don't think I will suffer bad luck. I think the New Year will be what I make of it with the Lord's help.
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Old Jan 02, 2017, 11:39 AM
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It's as good as a day to celebrate, how and what to celebrate is anybody's choice I guess. It's cultural celebration so, one can challenge it or not participate in it, I'm not pointing fingers at anyone here. Trash talk is easier than a deep contemplation of any given subject.

Monday or Friday, if one cares about it, maybe it is something. It is that much difficult to see oneself on any other days, I think the new years and being resolute, the weight of the meanings and effects of the resolution depends on how much one looked back on their lives and remembers, somebody dies on this day every year and many human lives are born.

Rewriting culture isn't easy. We're born into one without choices and be taught what our freedom and culture is, it's rational to celebrate the first day, I'm given two calenders in my country and on any official documents or on any paper work in work situations, I'm required to provide the one that I don't always recall the year, I believe there's not much to discuss about new year's day, is it hurting anyone? There are other calender holidays that may need some changes, because of the cultural shift, historical facts and some people may get over sensitive, they usually get political in nature.

I don't see any good reasons to oppose the new year celebrations, in freedom, y'all have a choice. Calling something a BS, because it's the same every year? It is a traditional celebration, isn't it? It is supposed to be the same year after year. Proposing a stardate like system, switching to Julian Day Number (JDN) that astronomers use may eliminate the frustration. This would be ideal, because our birthday goes out of the window too. You'd be recognizing every day differently than majority of people, arbitrary celebration for someone you care about can happen spontaneously, just think about it.

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Better to have no expectations because no expectations means no disappointments.
I'd take the disappointments out of that equation. Just regulating the expectation part is enough, it's simpler and the 'no', the zero is hard to achieve, better learn about controlling anything than hoping the negation is the light. The meaning is up for interpretations, I don't even know how expectation works, belief, truth and justification, somewhere in between lies the usable knowledge of these sort of things.

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Old Jan 03, 2017, 01:01 AM
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I have the same new years resolution every year , just to be alive next year to see people spend and drink recklessly only to be hungover the next day and when the credit card bill comes to wonder how they spent that much on one night ! Time is eternal we are not , it will go in with or without us and or our participation in celebration of the new year , just as our ancestors did for us we will leave monuments and marker of important events in our life and time for future people , I seriously doubt that new years eve celebrations will rate any kind of memorial to future people , they will be to busy living there lives to notice what we did during ours , unless of course they are history buffs like me , but I assure you they will be busy learning about more important events then new years eve .

No matter where you go, there you are ! Even if you just barely remember it through all the booze and drugs. If you do go out and celebrate don't drive impaired , arrive alive or the celebration loses something .
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Old Jan 04, 2017, 03:20 AM
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Y2K was historic. Looking back at the time, I'm noticing these equipment failures on nuclear power plants on that year, task forces were formed, different governments doing different things, the public may have been in fear. I'm back in fear looking at news articles on CNN on their main page. It looks a lot worse reading what's happening around the world right now.

Anyways, it's not the same BS for everyone, check the news from South Korea on the day of the eve, at least 9 million people were as unhappy as they could be, the report said it was the biggest protest in the history of that country.

It's about NWO, the most egoistical dark force that we've been facing for quite some time, this is code red. I repeat, this is code red.
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