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Old Sep 29, 2007, 12:23 PM
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How many want to get better and how many just want to post? How many want to get better and how many just want to post? How many want to get better and how many just want to post?
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Old Sep 29, 2007, 01:16 PM
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Old Sep 29, 2007, 02:04 PM
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My dx is adult add, so i can't wait to do a million things every day. But impulsivity goes along with it, perhaps its why i even posted this topic in the first place.

I read this about attitude:
"The longer I live, the more I realized the impact of attitude on life. Attitude to me, is more important than the past, than money, than circumstances, than failures, than successes, than what other people think or say or do.
The remarkable thing is, we have a choice every day regarding the attitude we will embrace for that day.
I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% how I react to it.
And so it is with you..we are in charge of our attitudes."
(i forgot who wrote it, sorry)
That inspires me and I was hoping it would some others as well.
(note to mystry: you said "since being here I have reached out...found a Tdoc and been to sessions with others."...that is a perfect example of what I mean by wanting to get better...good for you)
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Old Sep 29, 2007, 02:12 PM
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Thank you for caring enough to post... to want to learn more about depression... for wanting to help..

There are so many people out there that would not take the time to even think about other people..

So.. I take your post as very caring.. to learn.. to understand.. to offer whatever help that you can...

thank you.. How many want to get better and how many just want to post?
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Old Sep 29, 2007, 04:53 PM
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1 in 4 people in the UK will suffer from a serious mental health problem in their life. Most people will suffer from some depression or have someone they know that suffers with depression.

The thing is depression can kill! That is why there are mental health services all over the UK. Now if it was as simple as just changing your attitude that would be great wouldn't it? Snap out of it! Great I'm cured! That would be great but it's not like that.

Mild to moderate depression can be treated with meds, therapy such as CBT, books on prescription, self-help tools, exercise etc...

More severe depression needs more than that, coping straterges and tools that need to be used all the time. That includes support sites like this one.

Serious mental health problems are often to do with emotional problems and trauma that happened in childhood. If you knew what I had been through you would be amazed that I am still alive today. I have been having therapy for about 6 years, once a week, sometimes twice a week and probably will be having therapy for evermore.

I hope this helps towards understanding depression.
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Old Sep 29, 2007, 06:01 PM
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that's great pegasus, you're a success story.
but meds and therapy didn't just drop out of the sky did they?
you had to take some initiative to get them and it helped, so good i'm glad you're coping.
btw, my wife has depression and took meds for 4-5 years but now sees a chinese doctor (drives 50 miles) and is on his herbal medicine, so i am not unaffected by depression...i just don't have it myself.
i do have my share of personal problems regardless.
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Old Sep 29, 2007, 11:15 PM
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<ul type="square">[*] Childhood trauma is now recognized as the primary cause of clinical depression, includes everything from outright abuse to criticism, lack of attention, unclear boundaries, divorce, conflict within the household, neighborhood or even violence on TV. The trauma, whatever it was...for me a mentally ill father...inhibits the natural development of the brain. It leaves several crucial areas from functioning properly. Depression is now being viewed as a physical disability...no different from any other disability, only depression was caused by an "accident," or trauma. This is why we cannot just talk our way out of it. [*] March 2006 There is an article in the Washington Post that says that only medication is helpful to ONLY half of all sufferers. The half it doesn't help continue to feel sadness, low energy and hopelessness [*]People who suffer from real depression must be taught how to enjoy life. It is hard for me to believe that life can be enjoyed. I see everyday as a pain in the *****. I move through my days, but I don't see myself enjoying them...Never have! It is also hard for me to believe that I have any value in this nasty world we live in. Why I get up everyday and move through the days it a mystery to me. I have been told it is my survival instinct, which is very strong that keeps me going.[*] My depression dates back to my childhood and has traveled with me through adulthood...through other serious life crises...I am now almost 59.[*] One of the keys to "relief" is to find a GOOD therapist...be it a psychologist or a psychiatrist or a mastered social worker...and this is NOT an easy search. I have been seeing a therapist on and off since I was 15 years old. I don't have a family that I can talk too, so I had to find a stranger to talk too.[*] Many sufferers also experience Anxiety, which can be difficult to endure and overcome. My anxiety is so bad that my short breaths have impacted my lungs. In a recent MRI, for other medical reasons, showed that my lungs collapse into themselves because of my very shallow anxiety breathing.[/list]
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Old Oct 03, 2007, 07:46 PM
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if you don't suffer from depression why do you take wellbutrin

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Old Oct 04, 2007, 08:27 AM
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</font><blockquote><div id="quote"><font class="small">Quote:</font>
gtrplayer said:
I'm not making any judgement...

I can definitely see how posting helps, but I can see how forcing oneself to make the admittingly huge effort to change one's life helps more.

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It sounds to me as though you ARE implicitly making a judgement.

How about changing "admittedly huge effort" to "seen as a life-threatening effort"?
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Old Oct 04, 2007, 09:40 AM
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MMmm, I thought the question quite reasonable when first asked...now reading some more from the original poster I feel something VERY different is behind the said intent...me feels someone is trying to "teach" others just that bit to much??? maybe projecting ones own inablitys to be perfect on to others??? I could be wrong though *x-files music*
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Old Oct 04, 2007, 12:01 PM
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do i want to get better.... yes and no... yes- b/c I want what I perceive healthy mind to be and happiness and no- b/c this is all i know and there is fear of the unfamilair...

as far as posting... sometimes i do and sometiems I dont... depends on the need and the stability of my mind...
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mouse, you might be right....who knows what lead me to post it...i'm glad i did tho cos either way i'm learning something. and i probably am projecting my feelings in the post cos that's how i think.
(oh and bpdsufferer the wellbutrin has immediate anit-add effects on me.)
i alternate between that and stimulant meds.
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Old Oct 04, 2007, 12:32 PM
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Old Oct 04, 2007, 01:33 PM
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Posting imho helps me to get better!!

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Old Oct 04, 2007, 05:26 PM
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For someone who hasn't been posting much, I saw this thread and have to respond, I feel angry, pissed off, insulted. I do not choose depression and whatever actions I can see clearly enough to make at the time have helped. So I would say that depression is not my major issue right now. If it were a choice I suspect that 99.9% of us would choose to walk away from depression and learn to live. You may not have intended to but your words leave me feeling the above. If your not helping, butt out. This is to support other members not to blame them for an illness that attacks millions.
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Old Oct 04, 2007, 05:31 PM
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I admire you for speaking up and for speaking directly. I also agree with what you wrote.
How many want to get better and how many just want to post? How many want to get better and how many just want to post?
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Old Oct 04, 2007, 05:42 PM
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I just realized that there is abook about depression that is titled "depression is a choice". The author should catch it, so he or she know what is talking about.
If someone has bad diet and gets heart disease nobody tells him he chose to be heart defective. I really wonder why depressives must face challenges that no other sick person must face.

Now seriously, gtrplayer, look inside yourself and tell us why you posted here.
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Old Oct 04, 2007, 05:57 PM
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I just wanted to add that this thread got a lot of hits and responses. Seems that it hit a chord for many. Lets keep our responses away from this kinda thread and more to people who need help/support.
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Old Oct 04, 2007, 06:13 PM
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The thing is people need to know that depression can kill! It's not something anyone can just snap out of!

I don't think the original poster ment to hurt any one but had a lack of understanding on how serious depression can be. Knowledge is better than ignorance.
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Honestly, I think it's a question, but I'm not sure it's a fair one.

Everyone is here first and foremost for support in grappling with a disorder that affects their life, or the life of a loved one. Nobody is here to increase post counts. Some members stay with us for years because they find friends and a community that really does offer them support in a way that is helpful to them.

So the implication that there are some people who are not interested in getting better and just want to "post" is not a very fair one. It may apply to a tiny handful of our members, but certainly not to the vast majority.

While I'm sure the question was well-meaning, I think that perhaps it was not very empathetic or compassionate to the painful reality that many of our members face everyday.

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