[wannaBgonzo]

can you make yourself develop a dissociative conditions by using drugs like dextromethorphan. i know that they can lead to psychosis and schizophrenia but i was i dont know about them causing dissociative problems.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by wannaBgonzo

can you make yourself develop a dissociative conditions by using drugs like dextromethorphan. i know that they can lead to psychosis and schizophrenia but i was i dont know about them causing dissociative problems.

interesting question. I know you can develop a drug addiction but never heard you can develop something like DID because of it. I know some medications make me feel similar dissociation things like depersonalization but once the medication is discontinued those feelings go away.

I believe excessive drug use can lead to depersonalization/derealization. I forgot where I read that so it may not be true.

[Crew]

NO! you can't make yourself dissociative or with alters! That is my belief and I'm sticking with it...
TY, Crew

well guys, you can't develop DID from anything other then trauma, however, it sounds reasonable that if you drown your brain with enough "dissociative hallucinogens" throughout your life that even after your stop it would alter your brain chemistry in such a way that would produce symptoms akin to depersonalization/derealization.

[Hunny]

wannaBgonzo:

You ask: "can you make yourself develop a dissociative conditions by using drugs like dextromethorphan."

After looking up dextromethorphan I found on Wikepedia:
DXM is also used recreationally. When exceeding label-specified maximum dosages, dextromethorphan acts as a dissociative hallucinogen.

Wikepedia did say this: It is one of the active ingredients in many over-the-counter cold and cough medicines, such as Robitussin, NyQuil, Dimetapp, Vicks, Coricidin, Delsym, and others, including generic labels.

Curious, many of us were given cough medicine as babies and children, to knock us out or address a cough and cold.

Perhaps the people on the Drug Forum would be able to tell you what their experience is with this drug as well, wannaBgonzo.

All the best to you on your investigation. Thought provoking question.

Love,
Hunny

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by wannaBgonzo

can you make yourself develop a dissociative conditions by using drugs like dextromethorphan. i know that they can lead to psychosis and schizophrenia but i was i dont know about them causing dissociative problems.

Ok after re reading your post a few times and googling "drug induced dissociation disorder" I found many sourses that say yes you can.

the key here for me was rereading your post and seeing you didnt ask if it could cause a specific dissociation disorder. you asked if you can make yourself develop a dissociation "conditions" Conditions can be symptoms, disorders or any other problems. So yes taking medicines like this can cause you to have dissociation conditions (symptoms and problems).

http://www.panicanxietydisorder.org....20symptoms.htm

in the third paragraph there is many examples of things that can cause dissociation conditions one of them is drugs, medicaitons are drugs the legal kind.

http://nodid.org/dynamic/

on that one it says under drug induced disorders - depersonalizationa nd derealization which are dissociation conditions (disorders and symptoms or problems)

http://dualdiagnosis.org/resource/ar...buse-chapter-6

on this on you have to scroll down quite a bit. its listed as dissociation under AOD induced conditions

theres lots more results just do a search for "drug induced dissociation disorders" my computer brought up 201,000 ressults

Thanks for the challenging question.

[anderson]

With use of drugs you may become detached from reality. but to be DID you have to be able to deal with the reality of pass abuse and stil have part that can live day by day. The rumor that only a person with scizxophania can hear voice for got to mention the fact that when the body talks in diferent voice the body carriage changes too for those with DID symptoms. What we do is survive that which most are not able to survive from. we are the masters of disguise until the inner walls come tumbling down and we have to put humpty dumpty back together again from all the peices that bear the pain of past abuse good luck. here are some question that we use to ask our self when we felt unreal........
1. are we skizo?
do we only hear voices in our head?
....nope we talk in diferent voices and come in all ages
do meds work for us?
...nope may make the voices go away but not the pain or the desires from them. in fact we learn that alters that are proned to self harm will use this time to hurt the body to be set free from the pain it carries for us.
2. are we demon possed?
....nope we go to church , even have no problems being covered in holy water.
...even had a couple of exersism performed on us to make sure. notta nothing change.
3. Are we DID/MPD?
...we talk and feel different from each other, Even if we share the same fear we deal with it differently.
... we each have our own likes and dislikes of things.
...we each have our own skills, abilities and desires.
...we feel each others pain as we learn to grow together.
...this is what we are we can not change that what we are but we can heal and grow and become more then what we where in the past. We can heal when given the right surport to do so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOW THATS MY STORY AND I'M STICKING TO IT!!!!!!!!
FROM THE BORG, THE ANDERSONS, THE DALMATIONS, THE WILD THINGS AND THE TROOPS AMEN.

[WePow]

According to the DMS-IV :
http://psychcentral.com/disorders/sx18.htm

"The disturbance is not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., blackouts or chaotic behavior during Alcohol Intoxication) or a general medical condition (e.g., complex partial seizures). "

Originally Posted by WePow

According to the DMS-IV :
http://psychcentral.com/disorders/sx18.htm

"The disturbance is not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., blackouts or chaotic behavior during Alcohol Intoxication) or a general medical condition (e.g., complex partial seizures). "

DID =/= All dissociative disorders
it's an entire spectrum

[darkpurplesecrets]

Thank you for your question. DID is brought on by trauma where one cannot deal with what is happening. It is usually developed early and it is of one or more distinct personalities that have their own identities. Children develope DID when the mind knows no other way to survive what is going on. When a child is put in extreme situations where there is no way they can think or understand what is happening to them.

Drugs that cause you to dissociate are not causing you to develope into other personalities. A child does not know how to reason with what is taking place nor do they know how to survive during these times. They will often leave themselves so that they can be safe and this is when another personality steps in so that the child finds safety within.

DID is not something anyone developes it comes when one cannot deal with that which is taking place. An adult has a mind and has had time to be able to figure out things and learn things that a child has never had the chance to learn. As an adult, we can withstand much more than a child who has no way to connect or the ability to connect to what is happening. Many times this starts very early before the mind has even developed.

This is only my thoughts and what I know to have happend to me. Seeing the DMV lists the criteria for DID. I think looking into asking your doctor or t would be the way to go. Again this is only my opinion from what I have learned. Thank you for asking.

dps

[(JD)]

Tiptoeing in to throw my 2 cents worth into the fountain.

First, for clarity, this is a
"Dissociative Disorder" forum.
DID is only one of the disorders.

No, you can't cause DID by using drugs.
And the voices those with DID hear are from within, schizophrenics hear non-existent voices from outside their bodies (also.)

I'm no medical doctor but from what I do know, and think, is this:
dissociative hallucinogens have a short half-life. Their effects are brief, making the person use and reuse for the same sensation.

We are all dissociative in one form or fashion!
Singletons, multiples, and those who aren't sure.
As human beings we have the capability to dissociate. A great part of the population can do so "at will." Some call it meditation, some prayer, some have other names for it.

Now, if someone uses this type of drug, they may become addicted to how it makes them feel, and perhaps strengthen their own understanding and ability to dissociate, but imo it isn't the drug doing that, but the person seeking the same sensation. (But isn't that the core for most drug seeking behavior?)

Like I said, just my 2 cents worth.