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Old Jan 05, 2013, 10:58 PM
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I took their sanity test when I registered and it came up for me. None of my doctors have mentioned it and I don't know anything about it, can someone explain what it means to me?

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Old Jan 05, 2013, 11:19 PM
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I took their sanity test when I registered and it came up for me. None of my doctors have mentioned it and I don't know anything about it, can someone explain what it means to me?
When you say Dr. are you talking about a therapist? If so maybe you should consider discussing this with your therapist. There a many diagnosis that have similar symptoms as DID. I wouldn't go by a computer test to determine what is going on in my head. Just a thought
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Old Jan 06, 2013, 01:23 AM
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I took their sanity test when I registered and it came up for me. None of my doctors have mentioned it and I don't know anything about it, can someone explain what it means to me?
Dissociative Disorder is a category (group) of mental disorders.

with in the group name of dissociative disorder are many different mental disorders..

the mental disorders in this category / group / type of mental disorders called dissociative disorders are:

depersonalization
derealization
dissociative amnesia
dissociative Fugue
dissociative disorders not otherwise specified
dissociative Identity Disorder

each one of these dissociative disorders have their own symptoms and also share some symptoms.

dont panic or worry too much about you scoring as having dissociative symptoms..the sanity score quiz does not tell you that you have any mental disorders. its just a way to show your self where you are at during that moment when you took the test. it is not meant to take the place of going through actual diagnostic tests/ evaluations with a treatment provider.

another thing that may help you to understand your scoring is that dissociation is a normal thing. every one does this from the moment they are born to the moment that they die..

dissociation is just a mental health term for doing things like day dreaming, spacing off, feeling numb some times and other completely normal mental and physical feelings/ actions. what makes them not normal is the amount of time you spend day dreaming feeling numb and things like that.

dissociation can be caused by all kinds of things like your age process, stress, medications, work, school, boredom, all kinds of things.

only your treatment provider can say for sure whether you have a dissociative disorder or not.

my suggestion go according to what ever your doctors, therapists say your diagnosis is. because online tests are not meant for diagnosis. if you would like tyo know what your actual diagnosis is, you can tell your therapist you took the sanity score here and what the results were and ask them to schedule you for diagnostic evaluations to verify if you really do have the problems that the sanity score is pointing you towards or whether you were just having an off day, what ever,
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Old Jan 06, 2013, 10:39 AM
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Dissociative Disorder is a category (group) of mental disorders.

with in the group name of dissociative disorder are many different mental disorders..

the mental disorders in this category / group / type of mental disorders called dissociative disorders are:

depersonalization
derealization
dissociative amnesia
dissociative Fugue
dissociative disorders not otherwise specified
dissociative Identity Disorder

each one of these dissociative disorders have their own symptoms and also share some symptoms.
there is also dissociative motor disorder which seems to never get a mention anywhere other then on the DMV list

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Old Jan 06, 2013, 02:54 PM
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Dissociative Disorder is a category (group) of mental disorders.

with in the group name of dissociative disorder are many different mental disorders..

the mental disorders in this category / group / type of mental disorders called dissociative disorders are:

depersonalization
derealization
dissociative amnesia
dissociative Fugue
dissociative disorders not otherwise specified
dissociative Identity Disorder

each one of these dissociative disorders have their own symptoms and also share some symptoms.
there is also dissociative motor disorder which seems to never get a mention anywhere other then on the DMV list
here in america we dont have a diagnosis called dissociatibve motor disorder.. here that diagnosis is called ...conversion disorder.. here conversion disorder is not with in the dissociative disorders grouping because it can be caused by many different mental disorders ie depression symptoms can be converted into having medical/motor/ funtioning problems like head aches, aches pains difficulty getting out of bed difficulty walking talking..

so here in the USA and in the DSM (america's diagnostic book for mental disorders) conversion disorder (your word dissociative motor disorder) is grouped with the somatoform disorders ie same grouping that body dysmorphic disorder, hypochondriasas (some places call this facticious disorder), pain disorder, somatization disorder, undifferentiated somatoform disorder.

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Old Jan 07, 2013, 06:39 PM
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Amandalouise...so why is it called dissociative motor disorder if it is not classed with the other dissociative disorders?? it certainly is NOT facticious or a pain disorder i should know, i have been living with it for the past four years! i am the last person to be a hyperchondriac as before this started i had not visited the doctor for best part of 10 years and still put off going until i am really unwell and in need of antibiotics! i can't comment on somotization stuff as i don't know what that means. the last thing i wanted was to be like i am now, when this started i was three years into running a very successful pre-school childcare buisness which had always been my dream to do, now i can't even sit up without support let alone move my legs to walk and have lost all sphincter control in both bowel and bladder not to mention the past pointing, breathing difficulties cos my internal muscles are weakened, or the stomach trouble cos the muscles are not working right to move food down right! oh and not a headache in sight! yea this is definitely something i dreamed up in my head ...not!

please note the ICD table below clearly lists Dissociative motor disorder UNDER F44 where Somatoform disorders are classed under F45

F44.0 Dissociative amnesia
F44.1 Dissociative fugue
F44.2 Dissociative stupor
F44.3 Trance and possession disorders
F44.4 Dissociate motor disorders
F44.5 Dissociative convulsions
F44.6 Dissociative anaesthesia and sensory loss
F44.7 Mixed dissociative (conversion) disorders
F44.8 Other dissociative (conversion) disorders
.80 Ganser’s syndrome
.81 Multiple personality disorder (DID)
.82 Transient dissociative (conversion) disorders occurring in childhood and adolescence
.88 Other specified dissociative (conversion) disorders
F44.9 Dissociative (conversion) disorder, unspecified

F45 Somatoform disorders
F45.0 Somatisation disorder
F45.1 Undifferentiated somatoform disorder
F45.2 Hypochondrial disorders
F45.3 Somatoform autonomic dysfunction

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Old Jan 07, 2013, 11:59 PM
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Awe Yellowted, i am so sorry your body is so uncooperative. i do not know what it is you have. i do not understand what Amandalouise wrote either. Perhaps Doc John or the Mr. Cylde person that does med questions might have an answer that would clear things up?

Is is silly to hope you get better Yellowted? I hope not.
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Old Jan 08, 2013, 10:39 AM
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Dissociative Motor Disorders

Dissociative motor disorders are movement disorders that do not have at their core objective the recorded injuries to the nervous system. It can take the following forms: pseudoparalysis, pseudoparesis, different or varying in degree of disturbance of coordination, inability to stand unassisted (astasia-abasia). The most common version of the dissociative disorders is the loss of motor ability to move a limb or part thereof, or to the movement of the limbs. Paralysis can be complete or partial, when the movement is weak or slow. It may show various forms and degrees of incoordination (ataxia), especially in the legs, resulting in ornate walking or inability to stand without assistance.
WHAT CAUSES DISSOCIATIVE MOTOR DISORDERS
The main cause of the disorder – psychological stress may influence the avoidance of conflict, fleeing to the disease.

SYMPTOMS OF DISSOCIATIVE MOVEMENT DISORDERSFull or partial paralysis of the limbs (mono-, by-and para-paresis and plegia), ataxia, astasia-abasia, apraxia, akinesia, aphonia, dysarthria, blepharospasm. There may be a tremor exaggerated by one or more limbs or whole body. Assessment of mental condition of the patient suggests that the decline in productivity resulting from the loss of function, helps him avoid unpleasant conflict, or indirectly, to express their dependency or resentment. A significant factor is behavior aimed at attracting attention.



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Old Jan 08, 2013, 03:21 PM
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Awe Yellowted, i am so sorry your body is so uncooperative. i do not know what it is you have. i do not understand what Amandalouise wrote either. Perhaps Doc John or the Mr. Cylde person that does med questions might have an answer that would clear things up?

Is is silly to hope you get better Yellowted? I hope not.
Thankyou Bmee, it is not silly, but is very unlikely!

i have a dx of dissociative motor disorder,

it is caused so i am told by having big traumas in your past that you were unable or not allowed to deal with in an appropriate way, so they are now being displayed in physical symptoms which you have no control of. usually it presents suddenly and goes within a few months, if it lasts for more than a year it is very unlikely to go at all.

people with it sometimes respond to the same treatments as those given to stroke victims, and some degenerative muscle disorder that i can't remember as the loss of ability is the same so the physical and psychological therapy techniques used benefit both. really it needs intensive treatment in a hospital where physio, talking therapy, occupational therapy and nursing care are all provided daily for around 6 months! problem is it is a post code lottery as to whether you get treatment or not and my area does not fund treatment for this.

Dissociative motor disorder can display as anything from weakness of an arm to total loss of movement in all 4 extremities, core stability (sitting up) internal muscles and in the worst cases it can affect the heart causing death! you have probably have heard the saying ...he died of a broken heart... well it is possible!

I think i have quite a bad case as all 4 extremities are affected - legs totally paralysed, arms weak, hand/eye coordination is affected meaning i miss the object i try to touch (past point), my internal muscles are affected too, i have no sphincter control either bowel or bladder, can only sit up if aided by balancing on my arms or by being strapped into a chair/scooter by a full 5 point body harness, my breathing is not great and i have lots of trouble with swallowing & digestion as the muscles in my throat & digestive tract are very sluggish/weak. I get very tired very quickly and if i get cold it takes hours to warm up. I also have hyperhydrosis which doesn't help as the meds for this prevent the ability to control my own body temperature. I have multiple allergies which are unrelated to DMD and asthma which i have had for over 20 years too. oh and a very low immune system which it is unclear if this is part of the DMD or something else. i never wanted this condition, never 'put it on' and have all the way through it so far wanted to walk, sit up, be normal again and hate having to have help or any attention on me. i have always been a shaddow, quietly beavering away in the background , seen but not heard, even when i was the head teacher of my nursery school i hated having to do the christmas play speach or the open days etc because i was much happier just doing my job teaching the children. i hate in the bigest way possible attention being on me and always brush off any praise i receive even if it sometimes is deserved because i just do what i do because i enjoy doing it not for reward, praise or gain.

hope this helps you understand a bit about it.

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Old Jan 10, 2013, 06:51 PM
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I think a dissociating from the body is much more common than we think, it is just that the very mild cases never get seen for what they are. When it becomes full blown one can not not see it.

I have a friend who is dissociative, although not usually, but once in a while, something within him takes over, that doesn't sound like him even and he has no memory of it so he doesn't think it happened. Only if it is totally proven to him he will believe it. But like I said, it is very rarely.

What is sort of all the time is his mild dissociation from his body. No one ever caught this. And yea he was abused in several ways as a child. He learned to sort of cut the strings to his body during the abuse like it wasn't his body. Now he sort of treats his body as a separate entity. When he abuses his body (usually overeating, no exercise, no self care) he doesn't feel that when the body acts up because of it it is his fault. He gets mad at his body for being fat on him, being not fit, getting tired and such. I'm not saying he is to blame really, because he has disconnected so many of his body's signals, like hunger and fullness.

I've never heard him say one positive thing about his body and I have never heard him refer to the body as a part of himself. Maybe his dissociation is more that the abuse happened to his body but not his mind, while in DID the abuse happened to one part and not another.

Just speculations, so meh.
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Old Feb 07, 2013, 10:20 PM
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Maybe you could talk your friend into treating his body like a pet. Not thinking that it's working against him, but that he needs to show it some attention and it will behave better.
I treat mine as a machine. Maintain it, and it will work. Ignore it, it breaks down.
I don't feel my body is a separate thing, but having DID,"I" am often elsewhere. So to speak, anyway...
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