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Old Oct 04, 2014, 04:53 PM
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I am an artist, not the best out there but an artist. I have some talent im not bad. Anything artistic i seem to be able to pick up to a degree and learn relatively easily. So my question is, what is the difference in being talented and gifted?

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Old Oct 04, 2014, 05:28 PM
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Hard work, practice, persistence! Do they teach you nothing at school in your country?
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Old Oct 04, 2014, 05:50 PM
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I think gifted means you do not have to do hard work, practice or be consistent. It is intrinsic, you just born with it like an prodigy. Talented means you have an underlying natural skill that needs to be honed and practiced.
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Talented and gifted can be used interchangeably!
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I cannot agree, 8SB has already proven talent. Research shows that once you have a ticket to the match so to speak, how well you do after that depends on whether you have opportunity and enthusiasm put in enough graft for long enough. If you have, say a part-job you will find it harder to put in the required input, but if have say wealthy relations and good contacts it will be easier. No one is successful on their own. It is a myth that some are so gifted they do not need to try.
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The "talent" is a gift, so they basically mean the same thing, as others have said. However, to be successful...to take your talent to it's maximum potential requires hard work, persistence, and a deep desire to express yourself through your work...whatever it may be.
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Old Oct 04, 2014, 07:51 PM
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My art teachers didnt intervene with me and my art. They told me to follow assignments and gave me freedom to do as i pleased. I was also not forced to do anything not even maintain a sketchbook. I was also allowed to turn assignments in as late as i wanted and still got As on them where other students had to obey deadlines.
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The times I've heard "talented" and "gifted," the distinction was very clear. Many people have talent... not so many are gifted. I think that regarding talent, there is always a plateau regardless of how much hard work you put in to develop the talent.
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Old Oct 04, 2014, 08:48 PM
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The times I've heard "talented" and "gifted," the distinction was very clear. Many people have talent... not so many are gifted. I think that regarding talent, there is always a plateau regardless of how much hard work you put in to develop the talent.
Whats the clear distinction? I have been researching this for quite some time now. I think its hazy and confusing.
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I think gifted means you do not have to do hard work, practice or be consistent. It is intrinsic, you just born with it like an prodigy. Talented means you have an underlying natural skill that needs to be honed and practiced.
I think Moxie gave you the best and clearest definition. I wonder why it is so important to you to make this distinction? Being talented or gifted are both admirable qualities. If you love your art and are recognized for it you are quite fortunate. Hope you find a successful career.
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Old Oct 04, 2014, 09:40 PM
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I think Moxie gave you the best and clearest definition. I wonder why it is so important to you to make this distinction? Being talented or gifted are both admirable qualities. If you love your art and are recognized for it you are quite fortunate. Hope you find a successful career.
Its common for people to not put forth hard work in art and still produce quality work but they are still not considered gifted.
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I think you may find these definitions of being gifted vs. talented very interesting. They make sense to me.

http://www.curriculumsupport.educati...gt2000rtcl.pdf
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Old Oct 04, 2014, 10:31 PM
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I think you may find these definitions of being gifted vs. talented very interesting. They make sense to me.

http://www.curriculumsupport.educati...gt2000rtcl.pdf
This is one step to clearing a deep obsession of mine. Now the last step is to go get evaluated by a professional.
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Old Oct 04, 2014, 10:39 PM
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I'm so glad you found something worthwhile in that link! I wish you well!
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Old Oct 04, 2014, 10:44 PM
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What i enjoyed from that article was the bit about the 90% percentile, and the fact that giftedness is basically judged based on your skill level before practicing properly.
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In my mind talented = gifted.
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Old Oct 05, 2014, 04:21 AM
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Whats the clear distinction? I have been researching this for quite some time now. I think its hazy and confusing.
Oh 8SB, I thought you were a young person and knew about this new-fangled contraption called the internet. Let me tell you about it.

It is a utterly accessible all embracing source of reference to find things out and if you like think for yourself. You have to have a certain savvy to sort dross from gold but that is not so hard to develop. I have done a little research to help you get started:

Just what is gifted and talented? | Teacher Network | Guardian Professional
Supporting gifted and talented children | nidirect
NSGT - Giftedness Defined

Pity really as it such fun to answer posts off the cuff with all the other 'experts'!
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As someone mentioned here, hard work and practice will almost always yield great results! Keep up the good work!
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Old Oct 05, 2014, 07:22 AM
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I doubt if Michaelangelo was particularly obsessed with being talented or gifted. He was, however, obsessed with his work....and the world has greatly benefited from it.
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Old Oct 05, 2014, 10:44 AM
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Reasons for my obsession are not important and honestly its rude to even bring it up. I am on this website for mental health reasons.

Using the internet to find answers from people when its possible i can put a thread up and have a talk with a 'actual psychologist in the field'. I read about artistic people on the internet all the time, the internet articles out there are all fuzzy and not clear.
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Old Oct 05, 2014, 10:49 AM
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That is a good point you make, but you might be a trifle optimistic finding a professional in the field on a forum like this, but on the other hand you could email such a person and ask them if they would not mind sparing a little time to answer, or at least point to an authoritative source a question that you have - consider: The National Research Center on the Gifted and Talented (NRC/GT) 1990-2013
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Old Oct 05, 2014, 10:54 AM
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That is a good point you make, but you might be a trifle optimistic finding a professional in the field on a forum like this, but on the other hand you could email such a person and ask them if they would not mind sparing a little time to answer, or at least point to an authoritative source a question that you have - consider: The National Research Center on the Gifted and Talented (NRC/GT) 1990-2013
Thank you As for being an optimist, i would rather be optimistic than pessimistic.
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Thank you As for being an optimist, i would rather be optimistic than pessimistic.
Another good point; 'realisitic/unrealistic' might have been a better choice of words.
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Old Oct 05, 2014, 11:10 AM
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its not unrealistic to think a psychologist would get on a mental health forum thats been popular for a decade. Considering there a forum at the bottom for them already.
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Old Oct 05, 2014, 03:15 PM
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IMHO - A hundred years from now, if any of us is to be remembered, it will be for what we produced and contributed to society in a positive way....not for whether we were called "talented" or "gifted" or whatever.

Sorry if that seems "rude" or offensive.
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