If you want to die
Why do people try to keep you alive?
What's the point?

This isn't true for everyone
Apparently some people really want to see you dead when you want to die

[whisperingpain]

Originally Posted by Kori Anders

If you want to die
Why do people try to keep you alive?
What's the point?

This isn't true for everyone
Apparently some people really want to see you dead when you want to die

It's your Guardian Angel helping you when you've all but given up. I know this because mine too has carried me along many times, countless times when I have..

[Purple,Violet,Blue]

Sorry you're thinking of these things, Kori.

The life force is the strongest thing on earth.

[Crypts_Of_The_Mind]

People want to keep you alive bc they would feel an emptiness if you died and the prospect of that scares them.

There is also at least a small part of you that wishes to stay alive if you still have the courage to discuss your feeling of wanting to die. So they also try to help that small part of you to survive.

[Skeezyks]

I don't know. For professionals... it's just their job. Once it's done, they have no reason to care one way or the other. For family & friends, I suppose it's just that you fulfill a need they have & your departure would create a hole in their lives. That's understandable. My personal experience has been that once the crisis is past, everyone simply does their best to forget about it.

My personal opinion is that there are somewhere in the vicinity of 7.5 billion humans on earth. So we have a few members of the species to spare. If someone really does want to die, I think it's little short of cruel to force them to keep living. But that's just my personal opinion. I know it's not shared by the majority of people on the planet.

[Grath]

Originally Posted by Kori Anders

If you want to die
Why do people try to keep you alive?
What's the point?

This isn't true for everyone
Apparently some people really want to see you dead when you want to die

When you're severely depressed, you often imagine that you're the only one that can "see the world for what it is", that life is meaningless and therefore, nothing matters and you might as well end it.

The truth is: Mentally healthy people often don't see a big meaning in their life either. However, they can enjoy the little pleasures in life. They set goals for themselves and derive their own meaning from them.
Being able to enjoy everyday things seems like such a little thing, like a tiny piece in a puzzle. And yet, without that tiny piece, people can break.

The people around you feel this, that you're just missing a tiny puzzle piece (from their point of view) to lead a happy life again. That's why they want to keep you on this earth. Because it'd be a shame to give up on that big game we call life just because you can't find one piece right now.
It might be the only game you'll ever get to play.

[Purple,Violet,Blue]

That's so true, Grath. Thank you.

[TishaBuv]

The will to live is instinctively in us. A caring person will encourage you to be healthy, not to cause your own death. Health professionals do it to keep you safe while you are a harm to yourself.

[pegasus]

Well Kori, a lot of people know you here, you are a long term member and people do genuinely make connections here. I don't know you, 'know you' but I've seen you around, I know you go in chat, you are loved here. Also talking of Psych Central in particular, many of us have been there too, know the spot you're in right now and we know how awful that feels. Yes people do really care.

[Crypts_Of_The_Mind]

Originally Posted by Grath

When you're severely depressed, you often imagine that you're the only one that can "see the world for what it is", that life is meaningless and therefore, nothing matters and you might as well end it.

The truth is: Mentally healthy people often don't see a big meaning in their life either. However, they can enjoy the little pleasures in life. They set goals for themselves and derive their own meaning from them.
Being able to enjoy everyday things seems like such a little thing, like a tiny piece in a puzzle. And yet, without that tiny piece, people can break.

The people around you feel this, that you're just missing a tiny puzzle piece (from their point of view) to lead a happy life again. That's why they want to keep you on this earth. Because it'd be a shame to give up on that big game we call life just because you can't find one piece right now.
It might be the only game you'll ever get to play.

Not to be mean, but - you are telling us what mentally healthy people see as pertaining to their overall view of life - how can you tell us this if you yourself are not mentally healthy?

Like I said I am not trying to be rude nor argumentative. I am open to the possibility there is a valid answer to my question. I would just like an answer - even if only in pm.

Thanks.

[Grath]

Originally Posted by Crypts_Of_The_Mind

Not to be mean, but - you are telling us what mentally healthy people see as pertaining to their overall view of life - how can you tell us this if you yourself are not mentally healthy?

Like I said I am not trying to be rude nor argumentative. I am open to the possibility there is a valid answer to my question. I would just like an answer - even if only in pm.

Thanks.

Good point. I can't claim I know with certainty how mentally healthy people feel like.
I'm just basing that assumption on the ups and downs I have. I tend to be very forgetful when it comes to my emotions – I can't imagine how it feels to be "calm" when I'm anxious or depressed. The whole world seems to be black and white and there's no way out.
But when I'm feeling a bit better at times (when I've been out with friends or spent time with my family) it feels as if I wasn't able to see all of the picture back when I had been depressed – as if I haven't been able to think clearly and was "locked in" in my negative emotions.

But yeah, when I see "mentally healthy people see the world like this", I guess you should take that with a grain of salt. It's mainly based on my experiences how my states of mind differ at times.

[Crypts_Of_The_Mind]

Ok - thank you n I hope I did not offend.

[Sunflower123]

(((((( Kori ))))))

((((((Kori Anders))))))

[Erro]

Selfishness.

Their reasons for that selfishness can vary greatly.
Obligation, Profession, Love...

But in the end, it's a fear of the loss.
They don't want to feel badly, so they want you to continue on.

But people tend to wait to help until it's nearly too late or after the fact.
They will have pretty words that only serve to shirk their own pain and guilt for not taking action when it could have helped.
Claiming it was selfish of the victim of the act.

Nobody 'wants' to die. Just for the pain to finally end.
Death is just an extreme and tragic means to that end.

[avlady]

I think if you are experiencing some mental issues that that could be the problem. I have several issues and even think of suicide sometimes but would never have the gumption to act on it. I did try as a teenager but got help. My life was spared and I am greatful!!Please see your doc or t soon if you have them.

[Fuzzybear]

((((((( Kori )))))))

[IA_2809]

So you can be a long-term productive member and contribute to your country's economic growth, showing psychological resilience anytime the job market asks you self indulgent, lazy mind to push yourself through yet another heroic hardship to serve your responsibilities and have human worth and dignity to boast the way you earn your right to live everyday and enjoy. That was sarcasm, just in case.

Now, seriously, there are just as many reasons (actually not reasons, but feelings) as to live as there are to die. You'll get patronizing answers (inherently discarding any meaning in wanting to die), as well as eugenetic ones ("I'd be actually glad the weak ones end up killing themselves so mankind's gene pool favors up the strong folks"). The important point behind it all, I think, is to control. We want control over not only our actions but our environments (and that's not totally wrong or unhealthy, sometimes you'll have to act for others before somebody else does in a way that conflicts with you). Wanting to die, is yet another act of claiming control over our situation, and when others intervene, they want control over their environment, from which you're yet another element. How reasonable is that or not, I don't have the answer for that.

[Gus1234U]

i think people made it a crime to die because it just makes them uncomfortable and often, messy.

recently an incompetent doctor told me that the pills i have been taking for 6 years could make me die in my sleep. i said: "wouldn't that be lovely, what better way to go~!"

he just looked at me and changed my prescription. i get the feeling that he thinks a person should stay alive as long as they can, thru any expense or amount of suffering. my opinions differ.

[TuscanSicilian]

Originally Posted by Kori Anders

If you want to die
Why do people try to keep you alive?
What's the point?

This isn't true for everyone
Apparently some people really want to see you dead when you want to die

Kori,
If suicide is a frequent or a common thought, you should seek help from a mental health professional. If you cannot afford a visit call your county mental health services division. Discussing it here may get you some attention, but not many of us can, or know how to, help you. Suicidal thoughts arise by your circumstances around you, including not so friendly, even toxic people. Also, you may have a family history of mental health issues.

Life is full of random joys and sorrows. Why not work on your life’s sorrows and seek joy in your life?

[eskielover]

Its the medical community's job?

I personally chose to live but when my body gets to the point where it is done I have a DNR to make sure no one does anything to keep me aluve at the point my body is dying.

On the other hand before that was my request, I had atrempted suicide & ended up in a coma for 24 hours & on a breathing machine. Yes, they kept me alive when I didnt want to be at the time.....but not knowing what my future held, IF i hadvdied, I would not be enjoying the awesome life I do have now. I had no idea that ut was my bad marriage driving me into the state I was in (situational depression & anxiety triggered by the loss of my career but made worse by the bad marriage I had always been in that I hated but had become my norm) as soon as I left that my depression started to lessen & so did the anxiety & even my PTSD got better.

Not knowing what the future held, I now look back & am thankful they kept me alive but I was sure ANGRY at the time.