I tossed and turned all night. I had seen a show called "Conspiracy Theroy" about the year 2012 and how they believe it will be the end of cilivization as we know it and it horrified me. Had nightmares all night. What if it is true. I feel like my mind will be disturbed for a long time. All that pain and suffering that could happen is so depressing. Why couldn't I be born much earlier.

Dennis

[lynn P.]

Please know that, I'm not invalidating your fears at all when I say this - there have been people who've been picking differnet dates over the century saying the world is going to end and it never does. Even if it was going to end, there's nothing we could do anyway - right? The best thing is to enjoy the present or else you will be wasting time now worrying for nothing. Take some slow deep breaths and try to relax. Don't believe it Denny.

Sometimes I feel brace and strong and other times weak and frightened. I normally do not get like that over a show. I feel better now that a few hours have passed. You are right in everything you said. I will try to stay focused on positive thoughts and have a positive outlook. Thanks for the response. Dennis

Originally Posted by lynn P.

Please know that, I'm not invalidating your fears at all when I say this - there have been people who've been picking differnet dates over the century saying the world is going to end and it never does. Even if it was going to end, there's nothing we could do anyway - right? The best thing is to enjoy the present or else you will be wasting time now worrying for nothing. Take some slow deep breaths and try to relax. Don't believe it Denny.

[KathyM]

You're not alone, Dennis. It looks like the Mayans are fed up with these stories too.

http://news.aol.com/article/world-wont-end-in-2012-mayans-insist/713074

All these Dooms Day" predictions are coming from people who either don't belong to the culture or want to capitalize on the story in one form or another. Spreading fear is a common tactic to gain an audience and to gain control/power. Look at all those people scrambling at the end of the century ten years ago, fretting over the end of the world and partying like it was 1999.

I could die in a cataclysmic event in two years - so could you. It could also happen next week - or fifty years from now. For everyone living in this world today, one thing is for certain...we'll all die one day. This fact shouldn't change anything you are doing today or the goals you have set for your future. If you have nothing else to do, you can turn on some music and party like it's 2013.

[Aunt Donna]

It is an end to a world age for the Mayan. It is their calendar and their calendar continues on after 2012. Some people are trying to use it as a money making scheme. I have researched this because of my fear and the actual event it is actually suppose signify happened in 1999. People need to respect other cultures and not try to make them something they aren't.

[VickiesPath]

Originally Posted by denny8er

Sometimes I feel brace and strong and other times weak and frightened. I normally do not get like that over a show. I feel better now that a few hours have passed. You are right in everything you said. I will try to stay focused on positive thoughts and have a positive outlook. Thanks for the response. Dennis

Dennis,

I do not believe in doomsday anything. I am a believer in good. I am a logical, scientific type thinker so the awful things that have occurred in some of the island areas of our world do not surprise me. They seem logical given the nature of our earth and its structure as a planet. It is terrible what has happened to the people there. No one can argue that.

However, I have studied some of the paranormal beliefs. Things like angels, spirit guides, mediums, those in our world who are connected to the "other side" of our world. They, too, believe that the year 2012 is significant but haven't indicated that it will necessarily be bad. They have indicated that it will be important to humans. I don't know much more than that. It's something I'd like to read more about.

Just remember......the things they put on television are embellished for ratings. I don't believe much of anything on there anymore. Especially the news and even some of the documentaries.

[Timgt5]

To put some perspective on this, I can remember all the panic in 1999 over the coming of 2000. The concern was that because computers could not read 4 digit dates, they would all simultaneously stop working. The result was that all the lights would go out, planes would fall from the sky, banking would fail, traffic lights would stop working and god forbid our nukes (and presumebly everyone else's)would launch, and civilization would be over.

I got up, January one 2000, reported to work, nothing had blown up, no planes fell, no missiles went off, civilization carried on like it always does. No one predict the future because it has not occured, all events are the result of an incalculable amount of decisions being made by billions of people, every day, every minute, every second, which then spawn more decisions, and so on.

So no, no one can say when humanity will end, or even if it will. Change will come, it must, as it is the only true constant in the 'verse. Change is not a bad thing. Without change, there is no progress, without progess, we stagnate and never realize our true potential, which is far greater than we are yet aware.

Thanks for giving your point of view. It has eased my mind some. Peace, Dennis

Originally Posted by KathyM

You're not alone, Dennis. It looks like the Mayans are fed up with these stories too.

http://news.aol.com/article/world-wont-end-in-2012-mayans-insist/713074

All these Dooms Day" predictions are coming from people who either don't belong to the culture or want to capitalize on the story in one form or another. Spreading fear is a common tactic to gain an audience and to gain control/power. Look at all those people scrambling at the end of the century ten years ago, fretting over the end of the world and partying like it was 1999.

I could die in a cataclysmic event in two years - so could you. It could also happen next week - or fifty years from now. For everyone living in this world today, one thing is for certain...we'll all die one day. This fact shouldn't change anything you are doing today or the goals you have set for your future. If you have nothing else to do, you can turn on some music and party like it's 2013.

My dreams were vivid and shook me up pretty bad but after reading all these comments I feel better. I guess I should think more about living and less about dying. Peace - Dennis

Originally Posted by faylowell

It is an end to a world age for the Mayan. It is their calendar and their calendar continues on after 2012. Some people are trying to use it as a money making scheme. I have researched this because of my fear and the actual event it is actually suppose signify happened in 1999. People need to respect other cultures and not try to make them something they aren't.

I need to get into the habit of researching things and not jump to conclusions so quick. I am very impulsive. I think it is a part of my illness. You made some good sense. Thanks - Dennis

Originally Posted by VickiesPath

Dennis,

I do not believe in doomsday anything. I am a believer in good. I am a logical, scientific type thinker so the awful things that have occurred in some of the island areas of our world do not surprise me. They seem logical given the nature of our earth and its structure as a planet. It is terrible what has happened to the people there. No one can argue that.

However, I have studied some of the paranormal beliefs. Things like angels, spirit guides, mediums, those in our world who are connected to the "other side" of our world. They, too, believe that the year 2012 is significant but haven't indicated that it will necessarily be bad. They have indicated that it will be important to humans. I don't know much more than that. It's something I'd like to read more about.

Just remember......the things they put on television are embellished for ratings. I don't believe much of anything on there anymore. Especially the news and even some of the documentaries.

I should have learned my lesson from 1999. Now that you mention it, it all comes back to me. I guess I need to stay focued on the here and now. Thanks a million for the comment. Peace - Dennis

Originally Posted by Timgt5

To put some perspective on this, I can remember all the panic in 1999 over the coming of 2000. The concern was that because computers could not read 4 digit dates, they would all simultaneously stop working. The result was that all the lights would go out, planes would fall from the sky, banking would fail, traffic lights would stop working and god forbid our nukes (and presumebly everyone else's)would launch, and civilization would be over.

I got up, January one 2000, reported to work, nothing had blown up, no planes fell, no missiles went off, civilization carried on like it always does. No one predict the future because it has not occured, all events are the result of an incalculable amount of decisions being made by billions of people, every day, every minute, every second, which then spawn more decisions, and so on.

So no, no one can say when humanity will end, or even if it will. Change will come, it must, as it is the only true constant in the 'verse. Change is not a bad thing. Without change, there is no progress, without progess, we stagnate and never realize our true potential, which is far greater than we are yet aware.

[Elysium]

Dennis....

It's all a bunch of bunk!!

I'm sure the military are preparing for the "end of the world" so to speak...but I don't believe the world will end in 2012.

Really...the folks that feed into this are doing it for many resons. For some, it is a spiritual/religious belief, for others it is political. But regardless who it comes from, they are all feeding off the fear and using those scared folks for their own gain.

Think about it...if enough folks become so terrified that the world will end in 2 years, what's bound to happen? More folks will stay home and hoard supplies, build shelters, stop traveling, etc. Which means more $$ being spent in their own home countries and less $$ given to other countries through tourism (attempts to stabilize Governments). And, more folks will turn to Religion out of fear...and Religion always likes to make more $$.

The history of the Mayan Calendar, along with the science and understanding of Astrology shows that it is merely the end of the "Age" that is coming. Around 2012 (or 2100-depending on whose research your looking at), the Earth is said to be moving out of it's current "Age" and into the Age of Aquarius. Certain folks use this as propaganda to instill fear into the minds of humanity...for personal gain.

Yes...the Earth does have a life cycle, as do humans, but I don't see an end coming to either one in the next two years. That is..unless enough people freak out over the propaganda and we end up self-destructing as a species.

Be well!!

P.S. The Government's of the world like us to be afraid of future annihilation. If we are to busy living in fear of tomorrow, we're not paying attention to what is going on today....like Healthcare, A war on Terror that can never be won, and the fact that we are not as prepared as we think for any sort of natural disaster anywhere (i.e. Hurricane Katrina, Earthquake in Haiti).

[jooker]

My interpretation on the 2012 rigmarole is that the age is coming to an end and with the end of the age, the end of civilization as we've known it. It's not like a drastic change overnight, but a lot of bad will worsen while more good will be ushered in as some people awaken to how we should live on this planet.

In other words, the way we have been instructed to live in "love" by all the ancient religions and we have ignored this, 2012 will begin the do or die phase. If we don't start to put these principles of peace, harmony, love and such into practice, we will self-destruct somewhere up the road.

That's just my take, my opinion based on what I've heard or read.

[VickiesPath]

Originally Posted by jooker

My interpretation on the 2012 rigmarole is that the age is coming to an end and with the end of the age, the end of civilization as we've known it. It's not like a drastic change overnight, but a lot of bad will worsen while more good will be ushered in as some people awaken to how we should live on this planet.

In other words, the way we have been instructed to live in "love" by all the ancient religions and we have ignored this, 2012 will begin the do or die phase. If we don't start to put these principles of peace, harmony, love and such into practice, we will self-destruct somewhere up the road.

That's just my take, my opinion based on what I've heard or read.

This is in agreement with what I have heard from my resources, jooker.

[(JD)]

To no one specifically... but might it be best to give support rather than to denegrate what might be some other's beliefs? Thanks.

[ECHOES]

They just ran out of bricks, is all...

[KDlady]

Glad you found perspective and had time to think - worry sometimes sucks the joy out of our present and I know I need as much joy as possible
take care and thanks for sharing

[VickiesPath]

This is only my vague interpretation from what I know so far. And please understand that I have limited knowledge as of this time.

The time will come when we will no longer have the choice to hate and be at odds with other humans. It is anticipated that we will NEED to love and share in order to survive. It has little to do with beliefs or philosophies but simple survival. We will know that our survival and the survival of our planet will depend upon our cooperation as a species and our interdependence.

This is the main thread of it. It's pretty simple.

[lynn P.]

I'm more worried about how we're damaging the earth. ((Shadow Writer)) wrote a great post with a video link and I also added a link - but hardly anyone viewed it - it's in Current Events forum. I sometimes feel like some of us are like 'ostrich's sticking our heads in the sand' because how long will the earth sustain such damage. This is a real worry and we can do something about it. The only way I see the earth ending is if there a nuclear war or something completely out of our hands happens like a huge comet hitting the earth. We can't worry about that because it may not happen. But we do have control over our own destruction of the earth. I also feel concerned about mankind in relation to the general lack of politenss and compassion there is lately in society. What will the morals of society be like in 30 yrs?

[RedCylon]

Any doomsday predictions you hear about 2012 are nonsense. Don't believe them. The Mayan Calendar is like an odometer; it needs to roll over. The next time this happens is in 2012.

None of the other things you hear about 2012 are real. All that stuff about galactic alignments (which happen all the time, by the way, most recently in the late 90's) or Nostradamus predictions (nothing but a few hit or miss guesses) is total nonsense.

Interestingly enough, I remember learning something in my Astronomy class last year about how the Mayan Calendar was translated wrong, and 2012 is not the actual year the calendar predicts.

Either way, it doesn't matter. Nothing is going to happen. Like everyone else said, remember Y2K? I was terrified. I really believed all that nonsense about the computers and the nuclear missiles going off. And what happened? Nothing. The lights didn't even flicker. For some reason, people love to predict the end of the world. Don't worry about it.

[VickiesPath]

Originally Posted by RedCylon

Either way, it doesn't matter. Nothing is going to happen. Like everyone else said, remember Y2K? I was terrified. I really believed all that nonsense about the computers and the nuclear missiles going off. And what happened? Nothing.

I beg to differ!!!! Something of cataclysmic proportions happened. It was because of Y2K that I met my wonderful husband! He was in charge of a large Y2K system conversion at Universal Underwriters in Kansas City and I was working in Kansas as a computer technician when we met. A year later we married and celebrated the incoming of the new millenium in London. Should have seen the mess on Tower Bridge. Champagne bottles everywhere. There were some really grumpy street workers sweeping up on January 1. Hubby stayed on another week in London and made sure that everything didn't blow up and there was not a glitch.

We didn't see any planes falling, banks failing or traffic tie-ups, except for the usual ones in London.