[rolan86]

seriously, I am SICK of everyone having to tell people that they are on lsd, or mushrooms or whatever. Is this just a ploy to get attention? That we should treat them as if they are enlightened? I don't get it. Well... yes I do. I mean, I guess if I wanted to sound mature and badass, like if I wanted people to think I was just more philosophical and deep than the rest, I'd tell everyone. but seriously. can't people just keep it to themselves? Everywhere I go, it's all I hear, yeah I was on acid at that time, yeah man we were all frying on acid, this one time on acid... etc. etc. It's this kind of influence that is probably going to drive me to try the drug, which is unfortunate. I just can't escape people talking about it. It's pretty much a rule, whenever you are having a deep conversation with some people, it will ALWAYS at some point in the conversation, turn to talking about psychedelics. At least from my experience in college. Why must everyone try and flaunt their experiences with acid?? Sorry if this isn't exactly coherent, more of a rant.

[Nicks_Nose]

I can understand your frustration, rolan. I myself am so tempted at times to ask people if they cannot get a decent thought without substance assistance. I would feel prouder talking about the epiphanies I got from reading some intellectually stimulating books or attending a public forum on something I like. Not from some state of drug induced euphoria.
Good for you!

[IchbinkeinTeufel]

That is something I totally understand; it's likely mostly nonsense, conjured up, in an effort to sound cool; they are no more enlightened, than a monkey learning to scratch its behind. When I was at school, I used to hear a lot of that drug nonsense, but I just ignored it and kept declining offers.

[IndieVisible]

You can still get acid these days? That is sooo 80ish.

Any way I think the reason is in case they freak out you know why.

[rolan86]

yeah it's quite prevalent. It didn't go anywhere. It's just a weird feeling knowing people so young are doing it, like teenagers. Did I miss out on this in high school? And just hearing about it in pop culture. Like even the kid from two and a half men has done acid. Just a weird feeling, like am I just not mature enough to handle lsd? Am I really missing out on something that great? Society is sure telling me so... Until then, I'm just going to have to keep quite and unenthusiastically nod my head when the conversation ultimately turns to what psychedelics people have tried... sigh...

[avlady]

Those people are still alive?

[Grey Matter]

One of my friends recently did acid and ended up in the ER with seizures and a coma that lasted two days. So. I wish people would stop doing acid, you're not actually taking LSD, you're taking whatever you dealer conjures up for you.

[avlady]

That's awful, i hope your friend is ok.!!!

[rolan86]

That's awful! yeah I hope he is ok. Yeah I can totally believe it though. I had a bad trip from just marijuana cake and almost jumped out of a window it was so bad. So I totally understand and believe it when people say psychedelics are powerful. Still the appeal is there, and until they become "uncool", people will do them. It will still always be that "intellectual" drug

[regnum-somniis]

I don't know, as for me I'm excited to try LSD although I know that it probably isn't the smartest thing to do. You're right, if I have enough weed I basically start tripping and I don't really feel the need to try lsd or shrooms.. it doesn't make a person seem more intellectual however from around here, in a small town if you've done psychedelics you're considered stupid.

[rolan86]

really? you are considered stupid? that's interesting, because on my college campus, or at least the liberal college town I'm in, if you do psychedelics, people just see you as mature, experienced, deep, or like you just have a greater sense of things. The thought of psychedelics for me is twice as terrifying, because I have a past history of OCD, anxiety, depression, and mild psychosis, so the possibility of having a bad trip would probably double for me. Whether you want to call marijuana a psychedelic or not (most won't), whatever bad trip I had, was intense, and was enough for me to never want to touch drugs ever. At first, I used to think how can a substance really have THAT much of an effect on you? I mean you don't hallucinate right? you can still function right? True, I didn't really hallucinate, but the state of mind it puts you in... scariest thing I have ever experienced in my life. ever.

[IndieVisible]

Acid trips can be heaven or hell! I did it in the 70's-80's. Most were good trips but a few were pretty bad and scary. I once seen a church steeple melt like wax, a grassy hill turn to a hill of worms. Once I was convinced all my friends were trying to kill me. That was the bad. When it's good it can be really really good! Specially if u make love on it. I do not advise any one taking acid, not because the acid itself is dangerous, it's not, but the effects can cause havoc and harm. If anyone is hell bent on trying it, I strongly advise not to do it alone and only do it with people you know and trust.

[rolan86]

you'd really advise against it? I don't want to do it, it's just that the curiosity and peer pressure is killing me. Although, now I know what an altered state of mind feels like. I could see fine, everything was there, but it was like my mind was somewhere else. Everything seemed to melt and turn into a fast-paced cartoon at first. I will never forget how it started. It was about 2 years ago. I had eaten a couple mouthfulls of hash cake, after feeling nothing, continued to eat more. I was very inexperienced, so I had no idea what this could do to me. About an hour later I felt the most amazing high ever, every movement felt good, and I felt like I was glowing with energy. Then I started hearing laughing, as if the air in my room was mocking me, and it just kept getting louder and louder, and the more I tried to convince myself it was nothing, the more intense it got, until I finally had to accept I was having a bad trip. I would do anything to never relive that feeling again. I spent a year in therapy just trying to cope with it, and suffered from flashbacks all year, and to this day. However, when faced with the pressure to try lsd, well... not even my therapist knew what to tell me. Sure I can say no all I want, but that desire to just have that experience is just so great unfortunately.

[MarlboroChick]

I get sick of it too. I dont use psychedelics because ive had trips that messed me up pretty bad.
People start gushing about how great lsd or dmt is and I tell them that when I was tripping on dmt, I saw my friend turn into my rapist, peel his skin off, and stick it to me. After a few questions they usually shut the hell up about how 'great' psychedelics are and smarten up.
I have never been able to handle them. I also dont see a point. People say it gives you a better understanding to the meaning of life, but as far as I know, life is meaningless.
A lot of people I know give lsd or mushies to their animals. Its messed up.

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by regnum-somniis

I don't know, as for me I'm excited to try LSD although I know that it probably isn't the smartest thing to do. You're right, if I have enough weed I basically start tripping and I don't really feel the need to try lsd or shrooms.. it doesn't make a person seem more intellectual however from around here, in a small town if you've done psychedelics you're considered stupid.

Weed makes you trip? That isn't normal. You probably shouldn't combine it with whatever psych meds you are taking if that is happening. Or maybe someone has added something to the weed.

[rolan86]

I've heard that weed, if eaten can make you trip. Unfortunately I will never know what was in that weed, but just telling people about my trip, humbled people I know who have actually had bad trips on lsd and shrooms. I've gone through much frustration of not knowing what it was I ingested, but I have just had to accept that it was whatever it was. The only frustrating part about it is that I can never communicate to people about it or gain support because the fact that it was weed and "not a real psychedelic", somehow illegitimizes the entire experience, and just causes people to pass it off as "pshhh you were just high", which is frustrating to hear, because I am not being taken seriously.

[Max]

Don't know how old you are, but let me tell you! LOL !! You only have so many working brain cells and you're gonna need every last one of them when life starts slappin' you around.

I was a wild child and didn't listen. Fortunately I figured out that drugs were still going to be around in my 70's & 80's so no biggie. Friends of mine who kept going with it aren't intellectual or more enlightened, they are either dead or live in crappy rentals living hand to mouth.

Call me crazy but in my mind, people who advertise they are doing drugs are self sabotaging their lives along with tearing up their bodies. I refuse to work in a place people aren't drug tested and clean, I walked away from this stuff yrs ago. Not a saint and did my share, just decided I'd rather not live in a box down by the river.

GOOD GOD I sound OLD!!! ROFL!!!

[Perna]

Originally Posted by rolan86

I would do anything to never relive that feeling again. I spent a year in therapy just trying to cope with it, and suffered from flashbacks all year, and to this day. However, when faced with the pressure to try lsd, well... not even my therapist knew what to tell me. Sure I can say no all I want, but that desire to just have that experience is just so great unfortunately.

I'd stick with the "I would do anything" by not giving into the desire and allowing yourself the experience. I would work on how to not be so influenced by what others are doing/saying; what are you doing, saying, that should be most important to you.

[rolan86]

So I've established that I don't want to do acid. My main challenge will be how I act when others around me talk about it. This is my main concern. there is NO avoiding talk about acid, PERIOD, it's in the media, pop culture, music, my friends, the community, my classes, everything. I just need advice on how to handle hearing about it. I need to be able to just laugh at an acid joke, or just take it as any old conversation and not an immediate feeling of wow, am i really the only one who hasn't taken it?? Ughh... i guess now I need to take it...

[Travelinglady]

I can assure you. Rolan, that you are not the only person who hasn't taken it. I know hundreds of people, including college students, who haven't done so.

[rolan86]

well thank you for the reassurance I just need to get better at hearing those who are close to me talk about it. For instance, I was getting dinner with some close college friends of mine last night, and found out one of my best friends had done mushrooms a couple of times, something I didn't know. And as he was describing it, I just got silent, just thinking wow, even he has tried them? What are some ways I can calm myself and just take it as any old conversation? Maybe ask him how it was? What it was like? Even though I don't want to know any of this.

[Travelinglady]

Maybe you can just change the subject, and he will get the point that you don't want to hear/talk about it.

[rolan86]

so another week, another handfull of references to psychedlics... of course I find myself in a situation where I'm asked if I've done shrooms before. even some of the young freshmen I pass on campus I hear talking about tripping. Especially hard for me, because I'm an academic mentor for freshmen. I'm paid to be a guiding voice and help them with stuff like peer pressure and being independent and experiencing college life. how am I supposed to be a mentor if they are more experienced than I am?? I seriously might cave any day now... the pressure is just too much... it's everywhere...

[Travelinglady]

I won't ask what college you are going to, but I haven't seen this kind of pressure at other schools. I still don't understand why you are falling into this peer pressure. Come on now. I hope they all don't start using cocaine. (Sorry to sound so bossy, but I'd hate for you to have a bad experience and get caught setting a bad example......) You do know some of these kids are likely lying about it.

[psychmajortwenty2]

You think not having tried acid is bad? Try telling people at a college party you're a 22 year old virgin. Do you know how many people make jokes about sex and everything? IT's weird. It's awkward. I'm sure people talk about their sexual experiences more than they talk about acid... Sex is everywhere in our society.

It's not like I'm Amish. It's not like I'm necessarily waiting until marriage (I'm not really sure I even believe in marriage anymore). I just haven't found the right person. I had someone who I was seeing who wanted to have sex... but I always told them I wasn't ready to go that far. He seemed like it meant eventually we would, but I kinda meant I didn't think he was the right person to do that with. It's screwed up.

Anyways, the point is... despite everyone talking about sex and how sometimes it seems like people think you must be some kind of child or inexperienced naive idiot if you haven't had sex... I haven't done it. I say, screw them! I'm respecting myself enough to keep this decision. It's important to me. In fact, even when I am outrightly asked about sex and I tell them I'm a virgin, I actually get a lot of respect for it. Sometimes, it seems to make me more attractive to some people because of the implications of it - i.e. I haven't given in to peer pressure, I don't sleep around, somehow people think I'm almost more trustworthy because of it.

At the same time, I try not to judge people who have had sex. It was their decision. They did it. It's their life, not mine.

I'm sure you can draw parallels between this and your life. Possibly.. hopefully it's somewhat helpful.

And honestly, I tried mushrooms. I read an article in the Scientific American that it can help you figure out existential crises. They were even thinking about using it as a treatment for patients with cancer to improve their quality of life. I tried them with my friend. And not much happened. She was one of the few people who it seems are immune to shrooms. I, on the other hand, tried to throw up several times. Everything felt real and unreal at the same time. I thought the wall was breathing. I saw vines and lines swirling around on the ceiling.. like the ceiling was some organic thing. And I could see a rainbow in her fan/light thing.

nothing really enlightening. I guess it's kind of fun to say that I did it.. if asked. But I certainly don't advertise it. Just like how I don't tell everyone I like to smoke pot.

When people hear you've done drugs, sometimes it changes their perception of you. Like oh.. you've indulged in marijuana? This means you MUST be a bad influence. You can't POSSIBLY be a responsible person ever.

It's unfortunate and stupid, but people have their biases.

I say, if you feel in your gut instincts that you shouldn't do it. Don't do it. We have gut instincts for a reason. When you go against gut instinct, that's when you experience regret. And in my opinion, regret is the worst emotion of all.