Mooning your boss - not recommended

Apr 25, 2018, 09:03 PM

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...n_1854128.html

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/re...oon-2012-09-12

Selch was a successful investment banker working at a financial firm from 1994-2005. When his firm was undergoing series of mergers and acquisitons, Bank of America just about took over. Selch, understandably, had ongoing pent up frustration, but the tipping point came when his work friend was let go for refusing to accept lower compensation.

Selch stormed a corporate meeting among the executives (including his boss) and mooned them. He was initially written up by his own employer, but Bank of America (who absorbed his company) insisted that he get canned, so he was let go ultimately.

The moral of the story? Don't moon your boss. 99% of the employees woulda been let go immediately. Selch was among the 1% possibly bc very few people could do his job, but he was also ultimately canned.

My question is: 1) Did I get the right takeaway from the story?
2) Would that make a good story to tell children at story time? (Grimm's fairy tales style)
3) Had YOU ever been fired for GROSS misconduct? Cuz I have.

~Christina · Apr 25, 2018, 09:43 PM

Ruby?????

Why post this or the one if a 15 month old should or should not be charged with murder???

Why don’t you focus on YOU ????

What legitimate reason for this thread? you have numerous ones already and getting tons of advice, can you focus on important life skills instead?

Apr 25, 2018, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Christina

Ruby?????

Why post this or the one if a 15 month old should or should not be charged with murder???

Why don’t you focus on YOU ????

What legitimate reason for this thread? you have numerous ones already and getting tons of advice, can you focus on important life skills instead?

Yes I could. I ain't worried about Selch on a personal level. There's just lots of ridiculous stuff people do I'm just SMH.

Artchic528 · Apr 25, 2018, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ruby2011

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...n_1854128.html

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/re...oon-2012-09-12

Selch was a successful investment banker working at a financial firm from 1994-2005. When his firm was undergoing series of mergers and acquisitons, Bank of America just about took over. Selch, understandably, had ongoing pent up frustration, but the tipping point came when his work friend was let go for refusing to accept lower compensation.

Selch stormed a corporate meeting among the executives (including his boss) and mooned them. He was initially written up by his own employer, but Bank of America (who absorbed his company) insisted that he get canned, so he was let go ultimately.

The moral of the story? Don't moon your boss. 99% of the employees woulda been let go immediately. Selch was among the 1% possibly bc very few people could do his job, but he was also ultimately canned.

My question is: 1) Did I get the right takeaway from the story?
2) Would that make a good story to tell children at story time? (Grimm's fairy tales style)
3) Had YOU ever been fired for GROSS misconduct? Cuz I have.

Yes, you got the right takeaway.

I would think it wouldn't be appropriate to tell anyone younger than 3rd graders. A good lesson on what to do if you want to get fired and arrested for indecent exposure though.

I admit...it's hard though...that I was fired for taking things that didn't belong to me at my very first job....aka stealing. Not my proudest moment.

Artchic528 · Apr 25, 2018, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Christina

Ruby?????

Why post this or the one if a 15 month old should or should not be charged with murder???

Why don’t you focus on YOU ????

What legitimate reason for this thread? you have numerous ones already and getting tons of advice, can you focus on important life skills instead?

Half the threads on this forum have no legitimate reason to be posted other than to be amusing, or to distract us from our pain/suffering/hurt. So, why should this thread have any more legitimate reason than that? Is this not a "Chit Chat" forum where we can post such things? Or was I mistaken?

~Christina · Apr 25, 2018, 09:54 PM

Was just my opinion.... she has a lot going on just wondered her reasoning.. not that I need to explain my response to you

Again ...... my opinion

Artchic528 · Apr 25, 2018, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Christina

Was just my opinion.... she has a lot going on just wondered her reasoning.. not that I need to explain my response to you

Again ...... my opinion

She doesn't need to explain herself to you either. Maybe you aught to concern yourself with your own stuff for a while. I feel you're being confrontational and rather abrasive here when it's not really necessary.

Ruby? Your post was fine, don't feel obligated to please anyone by behaving a certain way. Keep on being you!

01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Artchic528

Yes, you got the right takeaway.

I would think it wouldn't be appropriate to tell anyone younger than 3rd graders. A good lesson on what to do if you want to get fired and arrested for indecent exposure though.

I admit...it's hard though...that I was fired for taking things that didn't belong to me at my very first job....aka stealing. Not my proudest moment.

I never stole, but I had been canned from Walmart for throwing an epic tantrum when I was 19 (ten years ago). The reason, my well-meaning coworker politely asked me why some stuff ain't put away the night before. I simmered, and simmered, and simmered until I exploded. I cursed her out, called her a stupid ***, and told her to go **** herself.

She reported me to management who let it slide w/ a warning. Two days later, someone brought up that girl's name and I purposely BANGED my HEAD into the fitting room pole in front of CUSTOMERS with children.

The backstory behind this was a girl at college hurt me like hell from DAY 1 and my fair weather friends walked out on me. Because of that girl, I lost every friend I've ever made and I made a lot. SO I started acting out everywhere else.

I may have since followed a similar pattern of acting out everywhere when I been hurt at work/school. However, I NEVER AGAIN acted out that severely as I did at Walmart cuz I learned my lesson.

Apr 25, 2018, 10:00 PM

Please let's all get along. We're a SUPPORT group.

To anyone who asks, I posted this thread for a discussion purpose bc it's so way out there.

Artchic528 · 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ruby2011

I never stole, but I had been canned from Walmart for throwing an epic tantrum when I was 19 (ten years ago). The reason, my well-meaning coworker politely asked me why some stuff ain't put away the night before. I simmered, and simmered, and simmered until I exploded. I cursed her out, called her a stupid ***, and told her to go **** herself.

She reported me to management who let it slide w/ a warning. Two days later, someone brought up that girl's name and I purposely BANGED my HEAD into the fitting room pole in front of CUSTOMERS with children.

The backstory behind this was a girl at college hurt me like hell from DAY 1 and my fair weather friends walked out on me. Because of that girl, I lost every friend I've ever made and I made a lot. SO I started acting out everywhere else.

I may have since followed a similar pattern of acting out everywhere when I been hurt at work/school. However, I NEVER AGAIN acted out that severely as I did at Walmart cuz I learned my lesson.

I can so relate to having so called "friends" turn around and betray you. I've had that happen so many times that I'd rather not think about it much. As a result, I'm naturally suspicious and wary of people and their intentions. I don't usually open up to just anyone anymore. That's not to say I'm not polite and cordial around people, I just don't consider them at all worthy of my innermost affections until they somehow prove themselves to me.

I also can relate to simmering until exploding. I think that learning some ways to express the anger and resentment instead of just bottling it up until you reach the boiling point can be very beneficial. One way I do it is through the values and teachings of Yoga. I go to a class taught by a neighbor in my neighborhood community center, and I have never felt more in control of my emotions. Sure, I have a lot of work to do yet, as I am not always in control, but I'm more in control than I was before taking the class.

I think that if you started doing yoga, even at home by yourself, you would find it amazing. The benefits are so numerous I can't even begin to describe them.

Nammu · Apr 25, 2018, 10:06 PM

Again, it wasn't because of her....it was your behavior that got you canned. This is a ridiculous thread for someone who should be focused on adult behavior and not turning inappropriate material into a children's story.

Apr 25, 2018, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Artchic528

I can so relate to having so called "friends" turn around and betray you. I've had that happen so many times that I'd rather not think about it much. As a result, I'm naturally suspicious and wary of people and their intentions. I don't usually open up to just anyone anymore. That's not to say I'm not polite and cordial around people, I just don't consider them at all worthy of my innermost affections until they somehow prove themselves to me.

I also can relate to simmering until exploding. I think that learning some ways to express the anger and resentment instead of just bottling it up until you reach the boiling point can be very beneficial. One way I do it is through the values and teachings of Yoga. I go to a class taught by a neighbor in my neighborhood community center, and I have never felt more in control of my emotions. Sure, I have a lot of work to do yet, as I am not always in control, but I'm more in control than I was before taking the class.

I think that if you started doing yoga, even at home by yourself, you would find it amazing. The benefits are so numerous I can't even begin to describe them.

IKR. I do some yoga recently. I just follow all the moves on YouTube videos played on a smart TV.

Artchic528 · Apr 25, 2018, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nammu

Again, it wasn't because of her....it was your behavior that got you canned. This is a ridiculous thread for someone who should be focused on adult behavior and not turning inappropriate material into a children's story.

While this may be true, that her reaction to the girl was the reason she was fired, I can see where she is coming from.

Is calling this thread ridiculous really necessary? I feel that you're coming across as confrontational here. Could you please approach this thread with a more gentile and thoughtful nature?

Artchic528 · Apr 25, 2018, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ruby2011

IKR. I do some yoga recently. I just follow all the moves on YouTube videos played on a smart TV.

That's AWESOME, girl! More power to you!

10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nammu

Again, it wasn't because of her....it was your behavior that got you canned. This is a ridiculous thread for someone who should be focused on adult behavior and not turning inappropriate material into a children's story.

I totally agree. I shoulda responded differently to my coworker's question. I shouldn't have cursed her out and became physically violent even to an object. Again, that was 10 years ago and I have mellowed out since.

By children's story, I meant like telling it like Aesop's fables and Grimm's fairy tales, which definitely had lots of morals. Depending on the age group, some details could be left out/modified lol.

Artchic528 · Apr 25, 2018, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ruby2011

I totally agree. I shoulda responded differently to my coworker's question. I shouldn't have cursed her out and became physically violent even to an object. Again, that was 10 years ago and I have mellowed out since.

So have I. I was only 16 when I was fired from my first job, and I haven't stolen since, mostly because it's morally wrong and also because I don't want to be arrested for it.

Apr 25, 2018, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Artchic528

So have I. I was only 16 when I was fired from my first job, and I haven't stolen since, mostly because it's morally wrong and also because I don't want to be arrested for it.

I had friends during high school who did ridiculous stuff at their jobs. Most of my working classmates behaved themselves at work but there were a few who preferred screwing around. The important thing is that we all grow out of it by the time we graduate high school.

Nammu · Apr 25, 2018, 10:17 PM

I will not enable ruby's fantasyland that she is a child or that other people are responsible for her behavior.

Artchic528 · Apr 25, 2018, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Nammu

I will not enable ruby's fantasyland that she is a child or that other people are responsible for her behavior.

Who said you had to? I never said to do that. All I am saying here is to be kind to her. She is suffering, hurting even. Wouldn't you want someone to be kind to you when you were at your lowest, or at a low point in general?

You can be kind and supportive, while not "enabling ruby's fantasyland". It's possible you know, contrary to what you may believe right now.

Also, you're derailing this thread, which I feel is very disrespectful to the OP. Please be mindful of that.

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Originally Posted by ruby2011

I had friends during high school who did ridiculous stuff at their jobs. Most of my working classmates behaved themselves at work but there were a few who preferred screwing around. The important thing is that we all grow out of it by the time we graduate high school.

I know, right? Teenagers do the wildest things because they think they know how everything works. They just want to push their boundaries to see how far they can go and what they can get away with. It's all a part of being a teenager I suppose.

seesaw · 10:44 PM

Hey Ruby, I don't think you've got the take away quite right. While what this guy did was funny, it ultimately tarnished his reputation and also made him seem immature and difficult to work with.

Often things happen at work and in business that we aren't happy with, and lashing out at others, like storming into a meeting and mooning everyone, is not a healthy coping mechanism.

So your take away should be that it's best to learn to control your emotions at work. And if you need to talk about frustrations or if something angers you, to learn either 1) proper coping mechanisms or 2) use the proper channels to file an official complaint.

I hope that helps.

I have never been fired, only laid off due to restructuring...which, btw, is what happened to this guy in the article.

Seesaw

Apr 26, 2018, 09:28 AM

Damn! I took the moral of story too literally. Yes it should be broadened to be not to let emotions control you. And that would include not mooning your boss or throwing tantrums or anything like that. So much for his $2 million a”$.

Apr 27, 2018, 09:21 AM

I am really wondering. Is your intention to provoke? What is constructive about this thread? I am not laughing. This is not what I would describe as the levity you seemed to intend.

*Laurie* · 11:50 AM

https://imgur.com/a/Asmb2Gd

Will the real Ruby PUH-LEEZE stand up?
(Or at least get an avatar.)

Artchic528 · Apr 27, 2018, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by justafriend306

I am really wondering. Is your intention to provoke? What is constructive about this thread? I am not laughing. This is not what I would describe as the levity you seemed to intend.

Why are you derailing this thread and attacking Ruby?