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Old Nov 12, 2022, 01:24 PM
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Yeah I would love to not join in the gift exchanges but I feel obligated to do so, it's one of those things where you know you'll be judged for if you don't participate. I don't join any celebrations at work, interactions are so forced and I remember a couple coworkers outright admit they hate socializing with other coworkers outside of work hours, why would I want to interact with those who really don't want to be bothered?

Also I do remember there being cases where store employees were trampled and even killed on Black Friday and it was a day after everyone is supposed to be thankful for what they have, it's pretty messed up if you really think about it. Also yes people do become happier in January until the weather gets extremely nasty by the end of January and February and tax season comes around, in terms of accidents I believe most accidents actually occur during the holidays due to people rushing which is so stupid.
You're right that you get judged if you don't do those holiday gift things at work or those potlucks too which I hated also. In hindsight, I too wonder how many people really felt the same way I did but nobody wanted to admit it.

I used to quote the saying "Don't mix business with pleasure" which I think is a good rule of thumb. I only went to the movies once with a co-worker. And one time I stayed friends with a co-worker or so I thought, after I left the company. But she ghosted me-----twice. That's a whole other thread.

People do seem to run lights or speed more during this time of the year. It's stress---not joy.. And NO GOODWILL towards all MEN. (And women!)


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I believed in santa claus but I always thought about how he could fly to every house in such a short period of time as well, I believed in him the longest since there was at least a reasonable explanation for how he got in the house. As for the tooth fairy and easter bunny, I realized they weren't real much earlier on since there was no explanation for how they got in the house. If anything I thought the concept of a tooth fairy and easter bunny was kind of creepy, I always thought the concept of a bunny or fairy going through your house without your knowledge and even into your room while you sleep was extremely creepy and weird.

At least santa just stays in your living room rather than wandering about but even then I started questioning if he was real when I would be up all night on Christmas Eve and there was still presents in the morning even though people say he doesn't go to houses where someone is wide awake, I was eventually told he wasn't real but I had pretty much figured it out on my own and no one had to tell me the easter bunny and tooth fairy wasn't real especially since there was one video my parents made where they forgot to hide the eggs and they said the easter bunny forgot to come to the house even though he remembered to go to every other house imaginable so that pretty much gave it away lol.
LOL I never believed in the Easter Bunny. As for the Tooth Fairy, I just thought of it as flying straight to my bedroom, not around the house. Then it left. It wasn't creepy to me, I think.

Sigh....thinking of all this decades later now. I wondered how somebody could survive in the North Pole where it's so cold and that stuff about elves making toys never made sense to me, LOL.

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You're right that you get judged if you don't do those holiday gift things at work or those potlucks too which I hated also. In hindsight, I too wonder how many people really felt the same way I did but nobody wanted to admit it.

I used to quote the saying "Don't mix business with pleasure" which I think is a good rule of thumb. I only went to the movies once with a co-worker. And one time I stayed friends with a co-worker or so I thought, after I left the company. But she ghosted me-----twice. That's a whole other thread.

People do seem to run lights or speed more during this time of the year. It's stress---not joy.. And NO GOODWILL towards all MEN. (And women!)



LOL I never believed in the Easter Bunny. As for the Tooth Fairy, I just thought of it as flying straight to my bedroom, not around the house. Then it left. It wasn't creepy to me, I think.

Sigh....thinking of all this decades later now. I wondered how somebody could survive in the North Pole where it's so cold and that stuff about elves making toys never made sense to me, LOL.

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Oh trust me I bet a lot of your coworkers felt the same as you did but just didn't want to admit it. Most of my coworkers put on a fake act but there has been a couple who outright admitted their disgust when it had been just me and them away from others. I think people see me as very trustworthy and good at keeping secrets so I've experienced several people admitting stuff to me but they would never admit to anyone else since they knew there would be pushback.

This applies to all celebrations including birthdays as well since even birthday wishes and cards seem very forced to me and some coworkers don't even try to hide the fact that they don't give a crap. Also I agree that the whole thing of elves making toys never made sense to me too. Also living alone in the North Pole with elves sounds quite lonely and impossible to do. Also imagine all the stuff he would have to carry for just one trip around the globe lol. These are all the thoughts I had as a kid even though I kept my mouth shut and played along with it and you're welcome for making this thread.
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Old Nov 12, 2022, 01:58 PM
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Oh trust me I bet a lot of your coworkers felt the same as you did but just didn't want to admit it. Most of my coworkers put on a fake act but there has been a couple who outright admitted their disgust when it had been just me and them away from others. I think people see me as very trustworthy and good at keeping secrets so I've experienced several people admitting stuff to me but they would never admit to anyone else since they knew there would be pushback.

This applies to all celebrations including birthdays as well since even birthday wishes and cards seem very forced to me and some coworkers don't even try to hide the fact that they don't give a crap. Also I agree that the whole thing of elves making toys never made sense to me too. Also living alone in the North Pole with elves sounds quite lonely and impossible to do. Also imagine all the stuff he would have to carry for just one trip around the globe lol. These are all the thoughts I had as a kid even though I kept my mouth shut and played along with it and you're welcome for making this thread.
People seem to vent on me too or admit stuff to me, whether it's about holiday parties or not. It can be anything. But I don't mind because it implies trust and comfort in telling me something. And now I'm venting on YOU in this thread.

We used to have birthday parties for co-workers too. I remember joining a new department (same company, just different department) in the 90's and I was blindsided by a "party" for my birthday. I didn't expect it or want it. It felt like such an invasion of my privacy and feelings. Sure it had good intentions but I didn't like the attention on me from people I just met days earlier. I haven't even interacted with them much as a result. In hindsight, maybe it was just an excuse to pig out on junk food.

Anyway this department did this birthday thing for everyone and I dreaded it. I think I told the manager I preferred no party because I remember just that one time. Or maybe I blocked it out, LOL. It WAS 30 years ago. Other than that, it was a good company with a lot of benefits, something that's scarce nowadays.
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People seem to vent on me too or admit stuff to me, whether it's about holiday parties or not. It can be anything. But I don't mind because it implies trust and comfort in telling me something. And now I'm venting on YOU in this thread.

We used to have birthday parties for co-workers too. I remember joining a new department (same company, just different department) in the 90's and I was blindsided by a "party" for my birthday. I didn't expect it or want it. It felt like such an invasion of my privacy and feelings. Sure it had good intentions but I didn't like the attention on me from people I just met days earlier. I haven't even interacted with them much as a result. In hindsight, maybe it was just an excuse to pig out on junk food.

Anyway this department did this birthday thing for everyone and I dreaded it. I think I told the manager I preferred no party because I remember just that one time. Or maybe I blocked it out, LOL. It WAS 30 years ago. Other than that, it was a good company with a lot of benefits, something that's scarce nowadays.
I don't mind it when people vent to me as well since it does imply trust which is good. I also hate birthday celebrations at work too because I don't like the attention and it's just an excuse to pig out on food. I know it has good intentions but I'm just not that big on celebrations and in a lot of cases those celebrations seem rather forced as well. I'd much rather treat my birthday as any other day since it's really nothing special for me and don't get into all the hype.
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I don't mind it when people vent to me as well since it does imply trust which is good. I also hate birthday celebrations at work too because I don't like the attention and it's just an excuse to pig out on food. I know it has good intentions but I'm just not that big on celebrations and in a lot of cases those celebrations seem rather forced as well. I'd much rather treat my birthday as any other day since it's really nothing special for me and don't get into all the hype.
Forced interaction isn't good, yep. But I wouldn't mind my birthday being a special day, with special people or those that I'm sure really CARE it's my birthday. Nobody like that around now, except one person out of state who sends me video message every year. Other than that, I'd try to forget it's my birthday, just think of it as a "me" day or day for self-care.
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Forced interaction isn't good, yep. But I wouldn't mind my birthday being a special day, with special people or those that I'm sure really CARE it's my birthday. Nobody like that around now, except one person out of state who sends me video message every year. Other than that, I'd try to forget it's my birthday, just think of it as a "me" day or day for self-care.
Good idea and I don't think much of it either.
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Yeah holidays aren't the same as they used to be and I think that's the case with everyone as they get older. Some people pass away while others find different traditions which is perfectly fine if that's what they want to do. I agree that the Fourth of July is one obnoxious holiday due to the fireworks people set off even before and after that holiday. People have gotten extremely inconsiderate about fireworks since they don't care and I have a fear of houses catching fire since I see that on the news every year and I have witnessed a firework malfunction up close once too.

Yes, I suppose holidays do change for everyone as the years pass. I hadn't thought of it before, really. I guess I'm not alone in that.

Not too many years ago I saw a house burn to the ground on the 4th. It was horrible to witness. Every year I used to put a sprinkler on the roof of a house I rented in a neighborhood that was especially crazy on the 4th.
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Forced interaction isn't good, yep. But I wouldn't mind my birthday being a special day, with special people or those that I'm sure really CARE it's my birthday. Nobody like that around now, except one person out of state who sends me video message every year. Other than that, I'd try to forget it's my birthday, just think of it as a "me" day or day for self-care.

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Yeah I'm not a big fan of the Fourth of July either. People get obnoxious with their fireworks and sometimes they do them before and after the Fourth of July which is annoying.
It can be dangerous for sure, as well as annoying and loud. They do it much longer on NYE, well past midnight. Some people work New Year's so need to SLEEP. Everyone doesn't party on 12/31st.


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Yeah holidays aren't the same as they used to be and I think that's the case with everyone as they get older. Some people pass away while others find different traditions which is perfectly fine if that's what they want to do. I agree that the Fourth of July is one obnoxious holiday due to the fireworks people set off even before and after that holiday. People have gotten extremely inconsiderate about fireworks since they don't care and I have a fear of houses catching fire since I see that on the news every year and I have witnessed a firework malfunction up close once too.
Yeah, there seems to be injuries every year. Professional shows are different. Noisy but safer. I'm talking about people setting them off around here or shooting guns up into the air. They do the latter more on NYE than the 4th.


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I think my favorite holiday is split between Thanksgiving for the food even though I dislike family interactions and halloween since I do like candy even though I rarely eat candy myself and I never do anything during these holidays as well. I agree those two holidays involving fireworks are super annoying and people use it as an excuse to be inconsiderate. I think the Fourth of July may be worse since the fireworks tend to go on for at least a couple days longer than New Years. I dislike New Years not just because of the fireworks but also the ridiculous hype over a new year acting like that will change things when in reality nothing will change other than the number in the year itself.
I've heard fireworks as early as July 2nd, during the DAY. They can go past July 4th too, especially if it falls on a Friday or Saturday.

For many years I thought we were supposedly celebrating an upcoming New Year. But it's about surviving the OLD year. Still, I don't get the forced optimism because it's a new year. You don't know what that means or what it will bring. For me, it's just flipping the calendar. I've had horrible DECADE and since 2000 even started, it's been going down the tubes. That's over 20 years. Yet every year it's HAPPY New Year.

NYE = Excuse to drink and be a fool. All that screaming and yelling cause it's a new year. We don't do that for a new MONTH or even DAY.

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Yes, I suppose holidays do change for everyone as the years pass. I hadn't thought of it before, really. I guess I'm not alone in that.

Not too many years ago I saw a house burn to the ground on the 4th. It was horrible to witness. Every year I used to put a sprinkler on the roof of a house I rented in a neighborhood that was especially crazy on the 4th.
Yeah it’s always sad seeing news footage of houses burning down knowing full well it didn’t have to happen if only people were more careful. Having a sprinkler is a good idea.
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It can be dangerous for sure, as well as annoying and loud. They do it much longer on NYE, well past midnight. Some people work New Year's so need to SLEEP. Everyone doesn't party on 12/31st.



Yeah, there seems to be injuries every year. Professional shows are different. Noisy but safer. I'm talking about people setting them off around here or shooting guns up into the air. They do the latter more on NYE than the 4th.



I've heard fireworks as early as July 2nd, during the DAY. They can go past July 4th too, especially if it falls on a Friday or Saturday.

For many years I thought we were supposedly celebrating an upcoming New Year. But it's about surviving the OLD year. Still, I don't get the forced optimism because it's a new year. You don't know what that means or what it will bring. For me, it's just flipping the calendar. I've had horrible DECADE and since 2000 even started, it's been going down the tubes. That's over 20 years. Yet every year it's HAPPY New Year.

NYE = Excuse to drink and be a fool. All that screaming and yelling cause it's a new year. We don't do that for a new MONTH or even DAY.

Yep people get injured every year from fireworks and guns, I see news footage of injuries and houses burning down and I know that it didn’t have to happen. Yeah people launch fireworks way too early and way too long, it’s rather inconsiderate. I don’t get the forced optimism too, it’s rather cringy in my opinion since it’s just simply a new number year. Life continues just the same and people get disappointed and say the current year is the worst year they ever experienced, it’s just annoying and all a show and it’s definitely an excuse to drink and be obnoxious.
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Yep people get injured every year from fireworks and guns, I see news footage of injuries and houses burning down and I know that it didn’t have to happen. Yeah people launch fireworks way too early and way too long, it’s rather inconsiderate. I don’t get the forced optimism too, it’s rather cringy in my opinion since it’s just simply a new number year. Life continues just the same and people get disappointed and say the current year is the worst year they ever experienced, it’s just annoying and all a show and it’s definitely an excuse to drink and be obnoxious.
And speaking of guns, we've had yet ANOTHER school/mass shooting. What a headline to wake up to......It seems nobody knows how to fix this problem that other countries don't have.

I started detesting New Year's Eve and New Year's many years ago. The latter isn't so bad to me as long as nobody says Happy New Year...which they will. Otherwise, they are busy sleeping off their hangover so I wake up to a quiet morning. And I've stopped watching the parade live for eons now.

Been recording it the last 20 years I think, and I can watch just the float footage. All those bands and horses are boring. It's the creativity of the floats I appreciate, but TV doesn't do them justice I'm sure. They don't stay on it long enough or get close enough, I think.

If you're alone on NYE or NY's, you're a loser---that's the message I get.

People think because it's a new year, I'm supposed to be optimistic. (I recently read a book: Toxic Positivity: Keeping it real in a world obsessed with being happy by Whitney Goodman. It explains where all this forced positivity comes from) During the initial COVID outbreak, the senior center was sending out newsletters telling us we "must be upbeat about this." And stuff about virtual classes with pictures of people smiling and exercising. WTF?

Many seniors don't have the tech or know how to use it much. And smiling anchors on the news, telling us cases are up so masks might be reinstated (months ago, not now). What are they smiling about???????!!!! Off topic I know, but I just go to thinking about the mindset in this culture period, not just the holidays. We slap a smile on everything.
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And speaking of guns, we've had yet ANOTHER school/mass shooting. What a headline to wake up to......It seems nobody knows how to fix this problem that other countries don't have.

I started detesting New Year's Eve and New Year's many years ago. The latter isn't so bad to me as long as nobody says Happy New Year...which they will. Otherwise, they are busy sleeping off their hangover so I wake up to a quiet morning. And I've stopped watching the parade live for eons now.

Been recording it the last 20 years I think, and I can watch just the float footage. All those bands and horses are boring. It's the creativity of the floats I appreciate, but TV doesn't do them justice I'm sure. They don't stay on it long enough or get close enough, I think.

If you're alone on NYE or NY's, you're a loser---that's the message I get.

People think because it's a new year, I'm supposed to be optimistic. (I recently read a book: Toxic Positivity: Keeping it real in a world obsessed with being happy by Whitney Goodman. It explains where all this forced positivity comes from) During the initial COVID outbreak, the senior center was sending out newsletters telling us we "must be upbeat about this." And stuff about virtual classes with pictures of people smiling and exercising. WTF?

Many seniors don't have the tech or know how to use it much. And smiling anchors on the news, telling us cases are up so masks might be reinstated (months ago, not now). What are they smiling about???????!!!! Off topic I know, but I just go to thinking about the mindset in this culture period, not just the holidays. We slap a smile on everything.
Yeah I've noticed people think you're a loser if you don't like New Years Eve. It's just an excuse to drink and be loud. Also I agree we do slap a smile on everything and in some cases it's to be professional in a work environment but it's still annoying. It's very obvious when people are putting on a smile as an act and genuinely smiling.
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Yeah I've noticed people think you're a loser if you don't like New Years Eve. It's just an excuse to drink and be loud. Also I agree we do slap a smile on everything and in some cases it's to be professional in a work environment but it's still annoying. It's very obvious when people are putting on a smile as an act and genuinely smiling.
Yeah, they can be flabbergasted if you say you have no plans. WHAT?? But it's NYE!

The workplace positive thing is everywhere too. Employers want you to be positive and energetic all the time, like the Energizer Bunny.
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My relationship with big holidays has changed, depending on how well I'm doing. I do much better, as I'm feeling better.
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Yeah, they can be flabbergasted if you say you have no plans. WHAT?? But it's NYE!

The workplace positive thing is everywhere too. Employers want you to be positive and energetic all the time, like the Energizer Bunny.
Yep exactly and it's quite annoying. The only exception is if you work at an elementary school like me. In that case I can understand putting on an act around the kids. Other than that we shouldn't have to force happy and bubbly interactions with coworkers we may or may not like or even know very well.
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My relationship with big holidays has changed, depending on how well I'm doing. I do much better, as I'm feeling better.
I'm glad you're doing bette and I can see how your view on big holidays can change with your mood. Generally people who aren't as happy aren't going to like the holidays as much. It's hard being unhappy and being around many bubbly and overly happy people and it may even seem a big cringy too. In fact a lot of the bubbly happiness is forced and those who are depressed just don't have the energy to put on a forced act.
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Exactly, rdgrad. It was a very difficult thing to try and "feel" as joyous and celebratory as everyone around me when I was very ill. Making the effort was almost painful.

I've done a lot of reading and self-therapy surrounding my particular diagnoses, and I understand much better where the gradual dislike and discomfort around holidays & birthdays came from. I subsequently have a great deal of compassion and patience for anyone who feels the same way I did when I was in the worst grips of my illnesses.

There are traces of these pains remaining. They bubble up a bit mostly around thoughts of absent loved ones. But that's grief, and it's to be expected.

I still have short bouts of anxiety before every occasion, but I think that will just be me and my worry that people might unexpectedly drop by---and my home is almost never in the condition I wish it was in!

Generally speaking, I enjoy almost all holidays again, thankfully---as I used to when younger.
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Holidays are usually a thing of the past. All parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles have died on both my and my husband's side. We both have older siblings who are elderly, live some distance away, and don't really travel (especially past mid-afternoon). Nieces and nephews are scattered to the wind, and our own grown kids either live far away or tend to travel outside the US during the holidays. So the once-festive holidays (that I so took for granted) are now lonely.

All this said - I am 100% in agreement with Skeezyks regarding the hell that is the 4th of July in the US. It used to be a nice family/children themed holiday. It has become a nightmare of noise, what are illegally-crafted bombs, and the fear that my poor elderly cat will have a heart attack due to his terror of the noise. I also fear fire from the illegal fireworks - indeed, 2 homes in town did catch fire this year.
Beth, I feel the same about the holidays. There's no one left to celebrate with. They've all passed away.

Christmas used to be my most and least favorite holiday. Most because I got into decorating, baking, etc. Least because of the stress. The forced happiness. The media harping about the great, close, happy families. A friend of mine and I used to define a "good" holiday as one where no one got in a fight.

Now holidays are just lonely.

Agree 1000% with those who hate July 4th. I enjoy watching the fireworks, but hate the rest of it. My poor dog HATES loud noises. He is a basketball on the 4th. My neighbor's shoot guns and fireworks most of the night. Last 4th they were were at it until 4AM!
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Exactly, rdgrad. It was a very difficult thing to try and "feel" as joyous and celebratory as everyone around me when I was very ill. Making the effort was almost painful.

I've done a lot of reading and self-therapy surrounding my particular diagnoses, and I understand much better where the gradual dislike and discomfort around holidays & birthdays came from. I subsequently have a great deal of compassion and patience for anyone who feels the same way I did when I was in the worst grips of my illnesses.

There are traces of these pains remaining. They bubble up a bit mostly around thoughts of absent loved ones. But that's grief, and it's to be expected.

I still have short bouts of anxiety before every occasion, but I think that will just be me and my worry that people might unexpectedly drop by---and my home is almost never in the condition I wish it was in!

Generally speaking, I enjoy almost all holidays again, thankfully---as I used to when younger.
Yeah I can understand how people feel when they become depressed or have some sort of dislike towards the holidays. I think it's way more common than people put on and I also notice a sudden rise of genuine happiness when the holidays are over. Feelings of grief and longing for the past are normal during the holidays and are way more common than most people may want to admit. I'm glad you're much better now and are able to enjoy the holidays once again. Forcing happiness when you're miserable is very hard and draining to do.

That seems to be very common during the holidays and it really shows especially when you get older. I will say though that I still allow others to enjoy the holidays and I don't ruin the fun for others. I don't particularly care about the holidays but I'm not one of those people you see from time to time who get verbally combative towards anyone who is happy and loves the holidays since there's nothing good about ruining the fun for others so I keep my feelings to myself when I'm at gatherings during any holiday and even birthdays.
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Beth, I feel the same about the holidays. There's no one left to celebrate with. They've all passed away.

Christmas used to be my most and least favorite holiday. Most because I got into decorating, baking, etc. Least because of the stress. The forced happiness. The media harping about the great, close, happy families. A friend of mine and I used to define a "good" holiday as one where no one got in a fight.

Now holidays are just lonely.

Agree 1000% with those who hate July 4th. I enjoy watching the fireworks, but hate the rest of it. My poor dog HATES loud noises. He is a basketball on the 4th. My neighbor's shoot guns and fireworks most of the night. Last 4th they were were at it until 4AM!
I agree with you that a good holiday is one where no one fights and Christmas is no longer my favorite holiday. I used to love Christmas as a kid due to the gifts and seeing the decorations up. I still do like seeing other people's lights but I don't like decorating myself. You'd be surprised how many arguments I've seen over decorations especially when they don't work. It is so petty and trivial and there's so many other things to be more concerned about. I've also seen people get offended when they didn't receive anything or not what they wanted.

Also the forced happiness and commercialism as well as unnecessary stress and witnessing arguments are what made me dislike the holidays and that goes for other holidays as well. I agree they are just lonely now and it really shows among others and it becomes extremely obvious that the happiness is forced when the holidays end and people fully admit to being so glad it's all over and genuinely seem happier and calmer when January rolls around.
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I try really hard to keep all the old traditions going, especially around that king of all the holidays, Christmas. But money has been tight for so long, it's been a real challenge---on top of losing so many beloved relatives.

I would have to say, Thanksgiving is still at the top of my favorites list, however. The rest don't signify as much for me anymore.

My husband is a nice man but he is a bit clueless about celebrating without being almost completely inebriated throughout. He can't ever let his hair down, or be warm, enthusiastic, or romantic, without a lot of beer in him. And that is a huge turnoff. I think that's part of what I deal with, as well. He's also clueless about birthdays. I was never really into big birthday parties and stuff, but now they've almost completely fallen by the wayside.

So, that takes an awful lot of the fun out of just about every celebration. If you can't do it sober and completely conscious, with other people's enjoyment taking priority, then why bother? And I'm tired of being the only one who really does all the cheerleading, and all the actual labor involved.
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I try really hard to keep all the old traditions going, especially around that king of all the holidays, Christmas. But money has been tight for so long, it's been a real challenge---on top of losing so many beloved relatives.

I would have to say, Thanksgiving is still at the top of my favorites list, however. The rest don't signify as much for me anymore.

My husband is a nice man but he is a bit clueless about celebrating without being almost completely inebriated throughout. He can't ever let his hair down, or be warm, enthusiastic, or romantic, without a lot of beer in him. And that is a huge turnoff. I think that's part of what I deal with, as well. He's also clueless about birthdays. I was never really into big birthday parties and stuff, but now they've almost completely fallen by the wayside.

So, that takes an awful lot of the fun out of just about every celebration. If you can't do it sober and completely conscious, with other people's enjoyment taking priority, then why bother? And I'm tired of being the only one who really does all the cheerleading, and all the actual labor involved.
Oh wow I’m sorry you dealt with that and that would definitely put a damper on the holidays. I agree that the holidays and even birthdays don’t mean much to me anymore either. Times have changed and I’ve gotten older so the hype has gone down so I don’t feel so joyous anymore. Also loosing people including friends also make the holidays more sad and I agree I actually prefer Thanksgiving and even Halloween more than Christmas since there’s not as much of an obligation to be around others.
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I agree with you that a good holiday is one where no one fights and Christmas is no longer my favorite holiday. I used to love Christmas as a kid due to the gifts and seeing the decorations up. I still do like seeing other people's lights but I don't like decorating myself. You'd be surprised how many arguments I've seen over decorations especially when they don't work. It is so petty and trivial and there's so many other things to be more concerned about. I've also seen people get offended when they didn't receive anything or not what they wanted.

Also the forced happiness and commercialism as well as unnecessary stress and witnessing arguments are what made me dislike the holidays and that goes for other holidays as well. I agree they are just lonely now and it really shows among others and it becomes extremely obvious that the happiness is forced when the holidays end and people fully admit to being so glad it's all over and genuinely seem happier and calmer when January rolls around.
Well the first hurdle is tomorrow....No turkey for me even though I like it. It reminds me too much of what I've lost. I'm having fish.

I was thinking about how when I was a kid, how upset it made me when we "couldn't afford" a Christmas tree anymore at one point. My parents were always penny pinching and one year they said it's just too costly. They said it's a waste of money to spend it on something we throw out on New Year's. At the time, it was important and I thought isn't that what we're supposed to do???

Okay now I get it. But I'm 61 now. Big difference from 11, LOL.

At first, people are happy in January.....until the bills come.

People certainly drive faster and are so impatient now, more than the rest of the year.

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