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I used to quote the saying "Don't mix business with pleasure" which I think is a good rule of thumb. ![]() People do seem to run lights or speed more during this time of the year. It's stress---not joy.. And NO GOODWILL towards all MEN. (And women!) ![]() Quote:
![]() ![]() ![]() Sigh....thinking of all this decades later now. ![]() Thanks for starting this thread.
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This applies to all celebrations including birthdays as well since even birthday wishes and cards seem very forced to me and some coworkers don't even try to hide the fact that they don't give a crap. Also I agree that the whole thing of elves making toys never made sense to me too. Also living alone in the North Pole with elves sounds quite lonely and impossible to do. Also imagine all the stuff he would have to carry for just one trip around the globe lol. These are all the thoughts I had as a kid even though I kept my mouth shut and played along with it and you're welcome for making this thread. |
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![]() ![]() We used to have birthday parties for co-workers too. ![]() Anyway this department did this birthday thing for everyone and I dreaded it. I think I told the manager I preferred no party because I remember just that one time. Or maybe I blocked it out, LOL. It WAS 30 years ago. Other than that, it was a good company with a lot of benefits, something that's scarce nowadays. ![]()
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Yes, I suppose holidays do change for everyone as the years pass. I hadn't thought of it before, really. I guess I'm not alone in that. Not too many years ago I saw a house burn to the ground on the 4th. It was horrible to witness. Every year I used to put a sprinkler on the roof of a house I rented in a neighborhood that was especially crazy on the 4th.
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I'm with you on this ![]()
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For many years I thought we were supposedly celebrating an upcoming New Year. But it's about surviving the OLD year. Still, I don't get the forced optimism because it's a new year. You don't know what that means or what it will bring. For me, it's just flipping the calendar. I've had horrible DECADE and since 2000 even started, it's been going down the tubes. That's over 20 years. Yet every year it's HAPPY New Year. ![]() NYE = Excuse to drink and be a fool. All that screaming and yelling cause it's a new year. We don't do that for a new MONTH or even DAY. ![]()
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![]() I started detesting New Year's Eve and New Year's many years ago. The latter isn't so bad to me as long as nobody says Happy New Year...which they will. Otherwise, they are busy sleeping off their hangover so I wake up to a quiet morning. ![]() Been recording it the last 20 years I think, and I can watch just the float footage. All those bands and horses are boring. It's the creativity of the floats I appreciate, but TV doesn't do them justice I'm sure. They don't stay on it long enough or get close enough, I think. If you're alone on NYE or NY's, you're a loser---that's the message I get. People think because it's a new year, I'm supposed to be optimistic. (I recently read a book: Toxic Positivity: Keeping it real in a world obsessed with being happy by Whitney Goodman. It explains where all this forced positivity comes from) During the initial COVID outbreak, the senior center was sending out newsletters telling us we "must be upbeat about this." And stuff about virtual classes with pictures of people smiling and exercising. WTF? Many seniors don't have the tech or know how to use it much. And smiling anchors on the news, telling us cases are up so masks might be reinstated (months ago, not now). What are they smiling about???????!!!! Off topic I know, but I just go to thinking about the mindset in this culture period, not just the holidays. We slap a smile on everything. ![]()
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![]() The workplace positive thing is everywhere too. Employers want you to be positive and energetic all the time, like the Energizer Bunny.
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My relationship with big holidays has changed, depending on how well I'm doing. I do much better, as I'm feeling better.
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Yep exactly and it's quite annoying. The only exception is if you work at an elementary school like me. In that case I can understand putting on an act around the kids. Other than that we shouldn't have to force happy and bubbly interactions with coworkers we may or may not like or even know very well.
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I'm glad you're doing bette and I can see how your view on big holidays can change with your mood. Generally people who aren't as happy aren't going to like the holidays as much. It's hard being unhappy and being around many bubbly and overly happy people and it may even seem a big cringy too. In fact a lot of the bubbly happiness is forced and those who are depressed just don't have the energy to put on a forced act.
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Exactly, rdgrad. It was a very difficult thing to try and "feel" as joyous and celebratory as everyone around me when I was very ill. Making the effort was almost painful.
I've done a lot of reading and self-therapy surrounding my particular diagnoses, and I understand much better where the gradual dislike and discomfort around holidays & birthdays came from. I subsequently have a great deal of compassion and patience for anyone who feels the same way I did when I was in the worst grips of my illnesses. There are traces of these pains remaining. They bubble up a bit mostly around thoughts of absent loved ones. But that's grief, and it's to be expected. I still have short bouts of anxiety before every occasion, but I think that will just be me and my worry that people might unexpectedly drop by---and my home is almost never in the condition I wish it was in! Generally speaking, I enjoy almost all holidays again, thankfully---as I used to when younger. |
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Christmas used to be my most and least favorite holiday. Most because I got into decorating, baking, etc. Least because of the stress. The forced happiness. The media harping about the great, close, happy families. A friend of mine and I used to define a "good" holiday as one where no one got in a fight. Now holidays are just lonely. Agree 1000% with those who hate July 4th. I enjoy watching the fireworks, but hate the rest of it. My poor dog HATES loud noises. He is a basketball on the 4th. My neighbor's shoot guns and fireworks most of the night. Last 4th they were were at it until 4AM! |
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That seems to be very common during the holidays and it really shows especially when you get older. I will say though that I still allow others to enjoy the holidays and I don't ruin the fun for others. I don't particularly care about the holidays but I'm not one of those people you see from time to time who get verbally combative towards anyone who is happy and loves the holidays since there's nothing good about ruining the fun for others so I keep my feelings to myself when I'm at gatherings during any holiday and even birthdays. |
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Also the forced happiness and commercialism as well as unnecessary stress and witnessing arguments are what made me dislike the holidays and that goes for other holidays as well. I agree they are just lonely now and it really shows among others and it becomes extremely obvious that the happiness is forced when the holidays end and people fully admit to being so glad it's all over and genuinely seem happier and calmer when January rolls around. |
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I try really hard to keep all the old traditions going, especially around that king of all the holidays, Christmas. But money has been tight for so long, it's been a real challenge---on top of losing so many beloved relatives.
I would have to say, Thanksgiving is still at the top of my favorites list, however. The rest don't signify as much for me anymore. My husband is a nice man but he is a bit clueless about celebrating without being almost completely inebriated throughout. He can't ever let his hair down, or be warm, enthusiastic, or romantic, without a lot of beer in him. And that is a huge turnoff. I think that's part of what I deal with, as well. He's also clueless about birthdays. I was never really into big birthday parties and stuff, but now they've almost completely fallen by the wayside. So, that takes an awful lot of the fun out of just about every celebration. If you can't do it sober and completely conscious, with other people's enjoyment taking priority, then why bother? And I'm tired of being the only one who really does all the cheerleading, and all the actual labor involved. |
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![]() I was thinking about how when I was a kid, how upset it made me when we "couldn't afford" a Christmas tree anymore at one point. My parents were always penny pinching and one year they said it's just too costly. They said it's a waste of money to spend it on something we throw out on New Year's. At the time, it was important and I thought isn't that what we're supposed to do??? Okay now I get it. But I'm 61 now. Big difference from 11, LOL. At first, people are happy in January.....until the bills come. ![]() People certainly drive faster and are so impatient now, more than the rest of the year.
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