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Old Jan 08, 2008, 12:00 PM
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Saluk...we are the caring breed of Gen-X...there are only a handful of us...it is not about confidence, it is about respect...I personally know that a woman like yourself does not want that guy at the bar to come hit on you when you are there to have fun...that being said we look like we are shy...so the next time you see that shy guy at the bar walk over and introduce yourself...because I am sure you will find that he is just being respectful of your thoughts and feelings.
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Old Jan 08, 2008, 12:03 PM
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i see that point coral... i think of the strong confident types (not to sterotype) like firefighters, soldiers, police, paramedics... good men come in all professions and have a range of skills...

i think (uh oh) for some women, maybe many, they are seeking a helper, an assistant.. raising children takes a lot of support... it isnt fair the women bear full or even most burden...

guys need to step up... ive learned this, i havent always been perfect... i still am not..

but guys come in all shades of gray like women do... we are all different and unique and each of us can tap into our masculine strength and remain sensitive to a wide variety of interests...

guys do need to assert at times... we all do, women as well... we need to know the line between assertive and aggressive...

we need to respect others pain... and find protector traits within ourselves..

women at times are more assertive than men.. well, there's the balance.. we all need to meet at a place of meeting... we all matter, we all make a difference... sometimes its ok to be just where we are and let nature lead... others, well, make a move... and be kind...

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Old Jan 08, 2008, 06:26 PM
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dragon - you are partially correct. it depends. obviously i wouldnt want that now anyways because i have a boyfriend and we have been together for about 2 years. but every now and then its a nice booster. just like, yes i want men to respect me, but hey, im not gonna lie, its nice to be oggled sometimes just to remind myself that im not nasty lol. maybe thats just me being insecure but i understand that guys dont know when we want total and utter respect and when we want to be called hot and be hit on.

and also, it depends on our mood what we want from guys. sometimes i want my boyfriend to get mad and feel like beating people up. (like when someone is being a jerk to me). sometimes i want the door held open, sometimes thats an insult. sometimes i want a cook, sometimes i want someone to need me. every guy has those capabilities. its the guys who learn when to use which one that are keepers. and sometimes i have to say "when this happens, i need you to do this". but we all want a little bit of everything i think.

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Old Jan 08, 2008, 07:34 PM
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lol... flirting is a art form imo..respectfuly of course...I think most people like it to happen as a reminder .....

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Old Jan 08, 2008, 09:36 PM
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i see that point coral... i think of the strong confident types (not to sterotype) like firefighters, soldiers, police, paramedics... good men come in all professions and have a range of skills..

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I agree, all the women I have been around ... I have been attentive ..atleast I think I have

I have noticed that women like to see confidence from the man in everything they do... not just their job, in every move they make, it is hard to meet the expectations of a woman on a man.. but a good challenge

I am not sure if many men would disagree, and if they do, and they are not just a wipped ...well, you probably get what I am saying, your a man

all others start telling your secrets now...

and I'm not talking about short term wipped bs ... give your long term bliss secrets to all the rest of us

I also notice they like to shift gears alot, and not be stuck in ruts, so you have to be able to gear up or/and down to handle whatever terrain could be around the next corner ..just to keep good action .... I mean good traction 38 Secrets Every woman should know (Because I know they read this board)

I think women are unpredictable and you just need to be handle every challenge they present with confiedence

I am not saying stay up their ***** trying to wait on them hand and foot , but be ready when they expect it 38 Secrets Every woman should know (Because I know they read this board)

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Old Jan 10, 2008, 06:10 AM
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coral, i think you wanted other guys responses, but, just gonna interject... yeah, when i was passing my most recent stages of recovery, my confidence elevated to a level that i was able to smile and enjoy again... my confidence showed and the attention i got from women changed with it...

confidence... they can see it... i know it takes all types and so i dont let myself become conceited, but, i'd agree with you... they like confidence...
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Old Jan 10, 2008, 07:48 AM
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I really did not expect anyone to step in and say ...ya I have been in a relationship with this women for X number of years ,with perfect bliss, and not be wipped... mabey there are a few.

definantly don't be concieted ...... but confident YES in my opinion

I am not just speaking from my own relations but also friends etc ...I pay attention to how others act around thier women and how their women expect them to act
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Old Jan 11, 2008, 08:54 AM
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IMHO......

What I have learned is that we as a generation ( Gen X ) has an tendancy to want more in life. As we strive to have more in life and our relationships we tend to forget what good that we have. People come in different sizes , races , general backgorunds with different wants and needs ...

What we are saying here isn't really secrets these are our wants from other people in our lives .... as beautiful as the requests are we as human beings needs to understand that for to get the want in your life we have to be open to the wants and appreciate the small things we have.

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Old Jan 11, 2008, 01:46 PM
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Old Jan 11, 2008, 02:16 PM
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68. we are nnot perfect. 38 Secrets Every woman should know (Because I know they read this board)
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Old Jan 12, 2008, 10:03 AM
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I think they like #68 actually ... It gives them a hobby I quess

I am sure that all women are different, but I think there is a world wide clique of them that want one to mold, a little atleast ..they probably have their own web club or something

and talk about tips and tricks for shaping the perfect man or something

they like to be the perfect ones in a relationship (in my opinion) and we are a pile of clay, blank canvas, or whatever

it just gives them something to do I quess, for fun

most dont hunt or fish or whatever, some may share a intrest in gardening or something, but other than that, I think they like to work on their image of a perfect man

I dont really think most seek out a perfect man, just a project, kinda like when a man buys a old car or boat to restore to better than new condition, A challenge but fun, and it still never is perfect, since there are design flaws
from the enginers ...

I dont think God created perfect men, they know that, but they still like to try to improve on creation since the begining of recorded time ..for fun I quess

but if you play along, it does have some great rewards
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Old Jan 12, 2008, 10:09 AM
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rewards? ... i spent most of my time ducking the flying frying pan when i didnt 'shape up' ... funny how it never seemed reversed... like they felt the pressure to be perfect at all... it was always... "well, im not perfect!" ... so what do i say then?

face it, guys get the dog house... sorry.. a little bitterness may show...

thanks coral... ideas to think about... im not changing myself for 'it' anymore...
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Old Jan 12, 2008, 10:21 AM
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dodging frying pans 38 Secrets Every woman should know (Because I know they read this board)

oh well .. I may have dodged a thing or 2 , as well

Don't give up ... I talk like "it " is " IT " but companionship, when moderated properly is nice also at times

I am not saying change yourself, but just play along when on the job

that is if you ever meet one in the clique I am talking about
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Old Jan 12, 2008, 10:27 AM
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for me... (watch out for the bitter) ... im tired of playing the stupid game... i like the way you put this though:

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I talk like "it " is " IT " but companionship, when moderated properly is nice also at times

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now i know a lot of women would say its the man who fails on this level.....

grrrrr.........
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Old Jan 12, 2008, 10:59 AM
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I am constantly trying to pay attention, and be receptive to change, just like any business relation

I try to see where I can improve myself " for myself "

it is hard to meet the unpredictable expectations of a woman/wife/girlfriend ... but they are alot of fun to be around at times 38 Secrets Every woman should know (Because I know they read this board)

I have always enjoyed my wifes company " at times "... but it ain't as easy as it looks on TV
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Old Jan 12, 2008, 11:10 AM
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now i know a lot of women would say its the man who fails on this level.....

grrrrr.........

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Thats right, they want to make you the companion they want,in my opinion

You have to jump through hoops at times if you want " IT " and " companionship they have to offer "

sure, a few may have perfect relations, but they probably ain't on a mental health forum talking about it

in my opinion
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 11:58 AM
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ive been thinking about this coral...

alright, compromise is needed... i would prefer to believe that i have choices here...

if its required that i adapt some self defintions in order to have companionship... ok... it sucks maybe, but, ok...

the thing i'm thinking about is the many men ive known, who lie, cheat and steal for sex..

it drags us all down...
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 04:55 PM
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ya, you have the choices they give you, once they got ya hooked

just kidding ... of course we have choices to make

the amount of compromise needed may differ for everyone, depends on what you need .. to make you happy I guess

sometimes ya just got to take the good with the bad and vice versa ... in my honest opinion

what you need from a relation and what I need, may be different ..so I can only speak from my ever changing perspective and experiences
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 04:57 PM
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thaks for listening coral... thanks for your input.. take care buddy...
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 08:51 PM
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I probably am not the best listener, the bible says to be light on the tongue and heavy on the ears (I think)

I am not as good at that as I probably should be ...

but I try to understand people, best I can

sometimes I find that not every thing can have a 100% positive spin ..... or pretty picture painted, just to make it seem easier than it is, in my opinion

I dont think anyone wants to be alone always, though

and I believe there are more women than men out there, so the odds are in your favor ... to find one that you can tolerate and can tolerate you ...
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Old Jan 16, 2008, 06:59 PM
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Old Jan 16, 2008, 08:12 PM
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thanks 50 guy..that sounds good also 38 Secrets Every woman should know (Because I know they read this board)
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Old Jan 16, 2008, 09:52 PM
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# 69. We really worship the ground you walk on, but ya probably already knew that one, ladys

# 70. Sometimes when we don't acknowledge when you speak to us, it is because we are hard of hearing

or lost in thought...........................in which case.....

please send a search party
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Old Jan 24, 2008, 02:58 PM
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#71. Sometimes our way of helping/doing something is FAR different from what you would expect! It still doesn't mean we didn't understand or don't care. 38 Secrets Every woman should know (Because I know they read this board) 38 Secrets Every woman should know (Because I know they read this board)
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Old Jan 24, 2008, 09:10 PM
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#72 we dont understand you and never will, but that doesnt mean we dont care.
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