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Old Sep 10, 2014, 08:12 AM
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Why is it that some have the need to try and challenge me? Is it because of being a narcissist? Feeling underneath or below me? I get along with so many here, have some fun and some serious conversations too. For some reason I'm like a magnet for people feeling the need to prove themselves to me. Or should I say compete with. To clear the air I do understand why, it's why some are here. To prove that their n traits are better than mine. I am not in a competition however I will sometimes respond to the little voices that are here out of pure fun. As many if you already know I am one to have fun, make jokes and play games. Why feel the need to always be either so serious or better yet the need to prove themselves. I write at times with a very serious mindset and other times I like to laugh and joke. People come to these forums with the same crap all the time, I think I'm a ? My ex did this. My parents did this. Blah blah blah SE
Crap
Different day and person. This is why I have fun here and at the same time there are many who have become involved in doing the same. Yes it is good to relate, to feel that your not alone I do understand this helps. At the same time it's also great to come here and have people laughing and having a good time. We deal with our issues every second of our lives. Me personally appreciate the fun and still don't understand the attempts to challenge. I learned a while back that sometimes it's better to bypass rather then write your immediate reactions as these are the evils that make us. Look back at my own writings, I may say something that generalizes all but never go after someone personally unless they begin at doing so. I was shown at the circus that I did that many times, people would write and I would challenge everything and try so hard to make them look stupid(which I accomplished very well). Someone their sent me a message in a way that was helpful. He pointed out my N traits in ally writings and made me realize I was wrong. Let people talk the way they want as it wasn't my place to correct them no matter how much it bothered me or that I disagreed. So keep that in mind when you try to challenge someone, what are the reasons for doing so? You will realize that in fact it is not "HEALTY" and that the reasons your doing it is the same thing you wish you weren't. Dropping science for all!!!!!

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Old Sep 10, 2014, 08:20 AM
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You are the only 'pure' narcissist that I've seen here. Most of the rest of us have some other PD mixed in so I guess you're kinda alpha in some weird distorted way.
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Old Sep 10, 2014, 08:21 AM
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I almost thanked you but then I thought is that really a compliment??? LOL. Bęte I haven't heard from you I. A while nice to see you back!!!
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Old Sep 10, 2014, 08:26 AM
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I'm just trying to play game you all are teaching me. I'm still not sure I'm a "real" narcissist.... but, the way you "real" narcissists describe it... I don''t understand why anyone would want to be one.

You're probably right... I'm not a "real" narcissist. but, I do have some traits... I'm not sure whether you all will be helpful for me on my journey to a more healthy me... but, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt..

time will tell.

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Old Sep 10, 2014, 08:27 AM
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I'll say this for you Underground.. among the "real" narcissists in this forum... you are truly top dog.

congratulations.

I seriously doubt anyone will ever be able to knock you off your pedestal. ... least of all me. like it matters.. I'm not even a "real" narcissist.

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Old Sep 10, 2014, 08:31 AM
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I'm not sure I'd call it a compliment but I certainly didn't mean it as an insult either. Let's consider it neutral.

I'm always around, I just go through random phases of activity.
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Old Sep 10, 2014, 08:32 AM
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Thank you.... I have a knack at winning awards!!!
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Old Sep 10, 2014, 08:35 AM
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I know what you mean as I do the same thing!! Anyhow I know what I am and have never really been proud as my issues really do bother me. We all need to sometimes take a step
Back and kinda look before we speak. I know it's easier said than done. Shakespeare your alright by me as you do have much to say. As far as you playing the game, stick with your original ways cause your not good at the games yet. Lol. In time my friend you will be, we must laugh at ourselves to become better!!!
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Old Sep 10, 2014, 08:38 AM
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I know what you mean as I do the same thing!! Anyhow I know what I am and have never really been proud as my issues really do bother me. We all need to sometimes take a step
Back and kinda look before we speak. I know it's easier said than done. Shakespeare your alright by me as you do have much to say. As far as you playing the game, stick with your original ways cause your not good at the games yet. Lol. In time my friend you will be, we must laugh at ourselves to become better!!!
Unfortunately.. I don't see anything funny about the kind of narcissism promoted on this message board...

and that's coming from someone with narcissistic traits.... someone who was told by their T that they have narcissistic traits.

but, like you keep pointing out... I'm not a real narcissistic. so, thanks for that.
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Old Sep 10, 2014, 08:43 AM
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Because I have compassion for myself and acknowledge my narcissistic traits... I also have compassion for all those "real" narcissists out there....

I truly hope we all get the help we need.
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Old Sep 10, 2014, 08:59 AM
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You truly seem to want to engage, Underground...

so, let's engage.. why do you suppose you have such a hard time with counselors?

do you think you'll ever go back?
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Old Sep 10, 2014, 09:11 AM
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I know what you mean as I do the same thing!! Anyhow I know what I am and have never really been proud as my issues really do bother me. We all need to sometimes take a step
Back and kinda look before we speak. I know it's easier said than done. Shakespeare your alright by me as you do have much to say. As far as you playing the game, stick with your original ways cause your not good at the games yet. Lol. In time my friend you will be, we must laugh at ourselves to become better!!!
I keep trying to 'study' you to figure out where I can see myself but you sir are a difficult study

Thank you for those honest moments though,
they give a little insight.
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Old Sep 10, 2014, 09:19 AM
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Your comments about seeing nothing funny is your first problem. You automatically become so defensive as if I am attacking you(Possibly your traits). I also do not get when you say that I point out your not a narcissist as I don't recall ever saying if you are or not. Even so WHO AM I to say what you have??? As far as therapy I spent a year with two of them. It was so difficult to start with one, go through all the crap just to replay it again for the second one. Neither of then were equipped to handle MY issues. I started to notice that they would bring things up that they were comfortable with. They too wanted to show that they had knowledge in what they understood but at the same time their knowledge of me was ZERO. I would tell them things and they would look at me like I had two heads. They would try to explain/relate and I wouldn't get it. They would say do you know what I mean or understand and I would say no because..... I know that there is a T somewhere that I could probably benefit from but it is really hard to commit myself again and worry about wasting my time. Therapists seem to be comfortable with the normal crap of relationship/family issues. Depression and things that are so big in their communities. When it comes to what I have it seems there are not many out their equipped to understand my thought process. I see, feel and react different than most. Im not worried about if I can get out of bed today, anxiety, social interactions, the way my wife talks to me and so on. The same very things they can understand and speak to someone about. I wonder why I have plans that are not healthy, why I can only care about what effects me. How I can keep silent to know the pain it causes and not care. I have so many things I can write of with the faults I need to work on. I am bored of talking about why me, why did this happen, why was I raised the way I was. Past will not change so screw it. To be honest I try medicine and it does nothing, I tried therapy and it did nothing. Maybe because I feel as if the only one who can help me is me!!
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Old Sep 10, 2014, 09:20 AM
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Do you think you'll ever meet anyone who knows more about psychology than you do?
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Old Sep 10, 2014, 12:05 PM
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You are the only 'pure' narcissist that I've seen here. Most of the rest of us have some other PD mixed in so I guess you're kinda alpha in some weird distorted way.
That's exactly why I don't post here as often as Underground. I also have ASPD so I simply don't care enough to contribute to discussions most of the time. Hahahahaha.

Carry on.
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Old Sep 10, 2014, 01:33 PM
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Oh stop it Atypical you don't post lately because ive been MIA. You post just as much as I do my friend!!!! Stop jumping ship
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Old Sep 10, 2014, 01:41 PM
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Right, because it's all about you of course.
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Old Sep 10, 2014, 05:46 PM
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Your comments about seeing nothing funny is your first problem. You automatically become so defensive as if I am attacking you(Possibly your traits). I also do not get when you say that I point out your not a narcissist as I don't recall ever saying if you are or not. Even so WHO AM I to say what you have??? As far as therapy I spent a year with two of them. It was so difficult to start with one, go through all the crap just to replay it again for the second one. Neither of then were equipped to handle MY issues. I started to notice that they would bring things up that they were comfortable with. They too wanted to show that they had knowledge in what they understood but at the same time their knowledge of me was ZERO. I would tell them things and they would look at me like I had two heads. They would try to explain/relate and I wouldn't get it. They would say do you know what I mean or understand and I would say no because..... I know that there is a T somewhere that I could probably benefit from but it is really hard to commit myself again and worry about wasting my time. Therapists seem to be comfortable with the normal crap of relationship/family issues. Depression and things that are so big in their communities. When it comes to what I have it seems there are not many out their equipped to understand my thought process. I see, feel and react different than most. Im not worried about if I can get out of bed today, anxiety, social interactions, the way my wife talks to me and so on. The same very things they can understand and speak to someone about. I wonder why I have plans that are not healthy, why I can only care about what effects me. How I can keep silent to know the pain it causes and not care. I have so many things I can write of with the faults I need to work on. I am bored of talking about why me, why did this happen, why was I raised the way I was. Past will not change so screw it. To be honest I try medicine and it does nothing, I tried therapy and it did nothing. Maybe because I feel as if the only one who can help me is me!!
I've never tried any medication..... I kinda like the T I'm with now... but, it took him a while to earn my respect..... he's tough.. I suppose I could get the upper hand... if I tried hard enough.. but, I fear if I did so.. I'd only be hurting myself.... He has some interesting insights...

He's yelled at me.. he even flipped me off once... lol.

I got pissed off and left therapy.. and didn't see him for 5 years... and I missed him...so I went back (about 6 weeks ago) I don't know how he does it....except that he has obviously worked with a lot of difficult people.
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Old Sep 10, 2014, 06:31 PM
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of course.. not everyone is as smart and tough as me.. it takes someone like me to be able to make a counselor work to their advantage.

it's not for everyone.. some people just aren't up to the challenge.

I wouldn't even recommend it to everyone.. you might just end up hurting yourself if you try... but, that's okay.. there are still the kiddie rides.. they're fun.. I suppose. If you like that sort of thing..

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Old Sep 11, 2014, 04:37 AM
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I've never tried any medication..... I kinda like the T I'm with now... but, it took him a while to earn my respect..... he's tough.. I suppose I could get the upper hand... if I tried hard enough.. but, I fear if I did so.. I'd only be hurting myself.... He has some interesting insights...

He's yelled at me.. he even flipped me off once... lol.

I got pissed off and left therapy.. and didn't see him for 5 years... and I missed him...so I went back (about 6 weeks ago) I don't know how he does it....except that he has obviously worked with a lot of difficult people.
I forgot to mention that he also looked right at me and said "***** you, shakespeare47 (only he used my real name, of course)..."
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