"Make it Stop"

Hi folks,

A couple of years ago I had an appointment with a consultant at our local hospital.

For some reason I asked him, "What do people usually say to you when they come to see you?" He seemed pleased that I had bothered to ask this question. He said, "They nearly all say the same thing; they say, "Make it stop; just make it stop." He said this in a way that implied his own feeling of powerlessness over the conditions he treated.

From my own long experience, and from reading posts from the brave people here on PC, I conclude that we can't always make it stop. Maybe we get lucky and it passes over, but for many of us here, including me, it comes back again. We try all the treatments and strategies; we talk to the professionals, we take the pills, and then we end up back here, sharing our troubles.

Sometimes we get long periods of a kind of remission, and get hopeful, only to get the symptoms back again, or walk into trouble again as our old patterns play tricks with us. It is so painful to see someone having to deal with the crisis point, and we all try to share the feelings, despite having our own triggers to cope with .

But we can't always make it stop, for ourselves or for others, no matter how much we would wish it. In the end, I sense that we learn to live as best we can with what we have, and that's all that we can do.

Good thoughts, M

WOW just WOW. such a simple truth that hits closer to home that alot has in a long time.

thank you.

kd

Myzen,

I too say WOW. I agree 100 % with everything you have written. Thank you

Myzen,

I'm on the WOW bandwagon as well. It's rather humbling to see all the truths we have inside our minds laid out so eloquently. Thank you so much for your post. Certainly has given me plenty of food for thought.

Dolfin

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But we can't always make it stop, for ourselves or for others, no matter how much we would wish it. In the end, I sense that we learn to live as best we can with what we have, and that's all that we can do.

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Exactly! Choice words, good wishes right back at cha!

(((((((((((((((((((Myzen)))))))))))))))

I quite agree.

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you.

Jan

I couldn't agree more! Talk about hitting the nail on the head

You've made my day w/this thoughful post.....and, myzen, JUST as you stated...it's not making it stop that's important..but how we handle our crisis points....and at this particular point, I want to thank all of my site friends for getting me through so many of mine....You all make the future easier to contemplate....much love.....grace

wow, profound, good posting. We all must feel pain, or whatever in order to be truly human. I think I will go read "THE VELVETEEN RABBIT" again.

Thank you for posting that Myzen. Its given me a lot to think about as well.

wisewoman, I used to love that book!!

Myzen,

You hit the nail on the head....that is exactly how I got through my last problems & my pdoc has said the same thing. He didn't know how I got through it without meds or therapy, but when this set of PTSD issues hit, he told me that I would find what works for me again just like the last time. He has more faith in me than I do....but it is true.....learning to live with the things we are given in life & finding our way of coping with our lives, hoping for the remission.....is what ends up getting us through. When we are feeling good again, if we keep those things around us for awhile, we continue feeling good until something hits us again.

You have basically described what life is for everyone....not just those of us with issues that have brought us here.

Debbie

I have to join the others and say WOW

I don't know. Maybe you're right. It's hard to know how much has to do with all this stuff I refused to look at before, and how much may just be my baseline. I guess I'm still hoping things will some how get better, that someone will make it stop...Not going to happen?? Not so sure I have the energy to change things by myself right now. Thanks for listening.

hi Myzen,
I have a feeling you're right. If so, it's cycling back thru again. It seems like I almost have a couple of good days and start to think i'm making progress and then I find myself sinking right back down again. The last 2 times I saw my T I did tell hiim to "make it stop", even gave him a deadline, 3 weeks. Luckily he has a sense of humor, and just smiled.

To all: So how do you deal with it when it's there?? Sometimes at night I can't begin to explain how alone and sad it feels. But where can you turn in the middle of the night? And during the day, do you just strap it on back, and carry on? Just go through the motions as best you can? What are your secrets and tricks, any you can share? Any that might help me?
I feel like I'm trying as hard as I know how. I've been going to work, even working overtime when it's available. I'm going to start taking a class. I'm doing the busy thing. I journal. I try to avoid the stuff that gets me into trouble like overeating, etc.
At times it feels like I've traded the huge lake of self hatred and loathing for a similar size lake of sadness. It's always there, ready to pounce. Tell me, someone, does this get better too? Just part of the path?

throughout my life, i've had some really bad times. i've never really thought of "make it stop"....i was born during the depression and being reared then, you learn early that you have to deal with what you have....not what you wish you had. neither of my parents graduated from highschool, yet they were very smart in the way of the world. they lost their oldest son to a fire. i'll never forget how they dealt with that.

i also use my dry, and sometimes cutting, sense of humor to get me through the darkest days. i was relating a scene, out of my divorce, to a friend and his comment was that he was sorry that i didn't have a sense of humor anymore. i had him rolling on the floor, about something that basically wasn't very funny.

i don't believe we can "stop"it, anymore than i believe i can walk on the moon. you deal the hand you were dealt. xoxo pat

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To all: So how do you deal with it when it's there?? Sometimes at night I can't begin to explain how alone and sad it feels. But where can you turn in the middle of the night? And during the day, do you just strap it on back, and carry on? Just go through the motions as best you can? What are your secrets and tricks, any you can share? Any that might help me?
I feel like I'm trying as hard as I know how. I've been going to work, even working overtime when it's available. I'm going to start taking a class. I'm doing the busy thing. I journal. I try to avoid the stuff that gets me into trouble like overeating, etc.
At times it feels like I've traded the huge lake of self hatred and loathing for a similar size lake of sadness. It's always there, ready to pounce. Tell me, someone, does this get better too? Just part of the path?

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Quay,

This is a good question. Everyone deals differently with what they are going through because not just "one" thing works for everyone. Its hard to say. I guess for me, because I have panic disorder, OCD (intrusive thoughts) and Depression, diversion of thought works the best for me and even at times that can be difficult. I try to keep busy, like you and at times that can work very well for me and other times, not so well. I do not think it is a good idea to sweep it under the rug either. If your feeling a certain way I am a frim beleiver in either journaling about it, posting here or talking to someone in real life. I have learned over the years that my feelings, thoughts and urges are not so "uncommon". This brings me comfort because it makes me feel less alone. I know that when I come here, I will receive love and support because I am understood.

Back to the original poster, Myzen, this post was very insightful. I think alot of times we expect that we will get over it and by seeing a T or taking medications that it will "stop". But deep down we know that isnt the truth. We must deal with our illnesses on a daily basis. Some good days, some bad days and some days we are just floating through, or at least that is how it seems to me.
I think everyone here can relate to that. There are days when we can sit back and offer support to someone we can relate to but at the same time we will have a hard time taking that same advice and applying it to our own lives. Funny huh? I dont know. I am just saying that I agree with Myzen, we cant just make it stop, we find our own individual coping skills to get through each day. Weather that is a bad thing or a good thing, I really dont know. Sometimes I think by going through life like that can one really be happy? Does that exsist?

OK, OK, OK, I am rambling big time. Sometimes once I get started on a post my thoughts just start to flow so I am sorry Myzen and Quay for hijacking.


Hugs,


Jen