In view of past upsetting events...

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I thought I had, too, but when hardly anyone takes note, does it still stand on it's own?

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YES, YES, YES!!! (plus, ya just never know who might be reading and learnin', even if they don't reply, eh?! I mean, I finally got some stuff though my dense skull , and you must admit that I was a bit, er, um, resistent when you first talked to me about some stuff. ("You, Jillers, 'resistent'" LOLOL)...

(((Tomi))) ...Huggles...

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I have very strong feelings about what she did.

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((((((((((SEPTMORN))))))))) NO ONE better come down on you for anything!!! You should be able to express your feelings and opinions just like the rest of us..Ive been blabbering away in that forum..if anyone needs to be told to shut their mouth I would think it would be me!!! I know you don't know me very well but I can tell you are having a rough time..and from looking around I can tell you are very loved and very appreciated and I think that whatever you had to say about anyting would be accepted with love and grace...it may be that people have a difference of opinion..and at first even I took some of that personnally..in EVERY forum..now I am finding..its not so personal..its just how every one feels for themselves..Please don't hold back..you seem to be a valuable asset to this place..I would hate to think that we would lose your voice!!!

Jillers, I think that boundaries are one of the hardest things to get straight and understand... from both sides. It's good to hear that you've been working on them.

{{{{{{{{Lexi}}}}}}}}}}} Thank you, Hon! Your words mean the world to me.

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I always come around for the SEPTEMBER 12 HOLIDAY , so I have to warm up ya know!

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I agree with what Liv28 has just written. If someone wishes to disagree with you or anyone, that's fine, but it is their responsibility to do so respectfully, and if they don't have that particular skill or inclination to use it, it isn't worth you getting hurt by it. It then really does become 'their stuff' and a reflection upon them and not you.

I know, (believe me), how hurtful words can end up being, but as you have pointed out, they can't hurt us if we don't take them in and have them become personal for us!

No one else is entitled to take our power or energy unless we permit it. [Yes, you know who taught me that, too, doncha my friend?!! ].
As ever - XOXO,

Jillers

LOL Oh, I remember those days!! But we've remained friends through it all, haven't we, my dear friend?

I think we should form a club. You and I aren't the only ones. LOL

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Karen}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

Andrea Yates, Hon. Not expressiong any opinions one way or the other here.

Good to see that you realise that boundaries are hard to get straight and understand..... from BOTH sides

been there done that

SeptemberMorn..I was talking in general..not just Andrea Yates..forget that forum..Just wanted you to know what I thought.. Hope you dont mind!

Liv, thank you very much! I don't normally react this way. Usually the first to voice my opinion especially if it's a strong one. LOL My problem is, thought, that I feel the board has been going through some pretty rough times, some people are finding it difficult to accept change, and just when things were beginning to settle down, there was a post made where I was basically told to SHUT UP! And this came at a time when I was just beginning to trust that person.

That, compounded with some things that had been going on in my personal life that got mixed up with this site, well... it's got me going sideways... ya know? I've still got some stressors going on in 3D. I feel that for my own sanity, I have to deal with it all on my own, but it's not fun or nice.

So... the last few days I've had to withdraw pretty much and do some self care.

Thanks again for your kind words. I'll keep them in mind for sure!

tomi, in view of all this all transpired, i PMed you first explaining the issue to you. you know that i care for you. it escalated beyond one complaint about our trying to let people know about the internet problem that is in our faces. i'm sorry that you're still feeling angry/hurt with me. i still trust you. it could have stopped long before it did. i own what i said to you. please don't put the entire episode off on me. love, pat

I know what you meant, Liv. I'm just not finding it right now. But that's okay. I'll get past this. Most of my life, when the ship hits the sand for me, I've found that I'm the only one that can work me out of things like this.

Pat, please don't bring it in here. Let me deal with my own problems my own way.

Please keep the personal issues private.

Thanks,

KD

Thank you, KD!

> there was a post made where I was basically told to SHUT UP!

:-(
i bet that doesn't feel very nice.
one thing to bear in mind might be...
if you don't like someone saying it to you...
then you might want to refrain from saying it to others too...

I'm not EVEN gonna go there!

Opinions are like the ocean tides they come and go, emotions stay forever, this thread is awsome
Angie

SBU I think the original intent of the thread is still good!

Yeah

(((Tomi))): Please repeat after me: "I will not take anything anyone says to me personally!"



XOXO, Jillers