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Old Sep 07, 2006, 06:43 AM
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It amazes me that it is easier for the people who commit crimes to get information than it is for the honest people to get needed information about the criminals.

I sent a request to the RN licensing enforcement group to find out if the person that claimed to be an RN was actually an RN. They were great about providing me with the information & I found out that the person wasn't a licensed RN. That was when I decided that I needed to find out if the person was actually employed by the hospital that she had claimed to be employed by.

I was told by the human resourses representative that they couldn't provide me with any information about the person without the request being in writing. The request has to be given to the vice president of human resourses & they have to determine if the information can be given out. Go figure.....all I needed to know was if the person was employed by them at the specified time & if she was, what position did she have (since I know now that she couldn't have been an RN).

The person in human resourses suggested that I could get the information by doing a paid search over the internet....only problem is that I would have to do a credit check to find her employment background......& of course, I don't have her social security #. She stole ours but I couldn't get hold of hers.

It is looking to me like the whole thing is a fraud situation. I don't know if fraud can be handled differently by the police than the ID theft & burglary, but I feel the need to try. I know that the police dropped the ID theft because the DA said there wasn't enough evidence against her. I know they never found the jewelry either.....that is almost impossible to locate unless a miracal happens.

I know that fraud is the way she got her way into the care of my Mother. Fraud is giving false information in order to get into a contract with someone. The first thing that happened was that she called the social worker at the hospital & identified herself as the home care RN of my Mother. Because of that, the social worker gave her information about my Mother's discharge before ever talking to me or giving me any information about my Mother (I am the only family). BIG MISTAKE. That fraud was the only reason that she ended up getting into that position of caring for my Mother. It was a friday & I hadn't been given any information from the hospital to contact any other care for my Mother & what else could I do with her being discharged without my knowledge. I thought I was trapped into using her because I didn't know of any other options since no one had ever talked to me. If she hadn't done that, my Mother couldn't have been discharged because there wouldn't have been any place for my Mother to go & I would have had the weekend to figure out what care she really needed.

I am waiting to get the hospital records on my Mother before filing any complaints with the hospital regarding the way they handled the situation & a complaint against APS for dropping the report I filed with them without ever talking to me. I talked to the man that holds the position between APS & the police department. I asked him about the report I filed & found out that I was opening up a can of worms regarding the procedure that was used in dealing with my case. I am not going to just let it drop. They are going to answer for what they did.....especially now that I know that the RN wasn't a real RN. The more I dig into what happened the more angry I get at what happened & how much was just dropped.

I feel that I need to deal with these things. When it happened, I also wanted to file a complaint with the hospital about how they handled my Mothers situation.. Now that I am getting all of my mothers hospital records, I will be able to find out exactly what I need to put into the complaint.

Unfortunately with going through all this information searching, I am having horrible anxiety attacks. My heart is continually pounding as if I were running a marathon. Even the seroquel I have been using isn't helping at all. I end up taking one & nothing. An hour later, I take another & still nothing. I had dropped my dose for awhile because I was waking up very groggy & couldn't function to do everything I have to do to pack up the homes for putting them for sale. I felt so desparate for some relief that I ended up taking the larger dose the other day & ended up fealing like I had ODed. I hate the feeling of having taken too much & there wasn't anything I could do about it at that time except sleeping it off. And my pounding heart still didn't stop pounding.

I know my pdoc told me that by digging into what had happened was what was effecting my anxiety attacks. Kinda suggesting that I don't continue with my search.......but there is something inside of me that makes me want to do as much as I can to see if I can't put a stop to what she is doing. My intuition from talking to her tells me that we weren't the first person she did it to & since she got away with it, I am sure we won't be the last.

Why is it that the crooks get away with things without being held accountable in this life & those of us who they hurt end up continuing the hurt as we try to put enough information together to stop them. I just can't give up until I have unturned all the stones & have left the information at each place that was part of the problem. It was a combination of problems across the board. If only & if only & if only & if only. But if the situation is documented at every place there was a problem, maybe people will be more cautious in the future. I don't want the situation to have happened for nothing. I have enough information that I want to make a difference & make people aware of what can happen & to be more cautious.

I have always been a person that takes action when I feel that there has been a wrong done. This was a huge wrong & I just can't let it pass without getting the story out into places that can make a difference.

I know that adding to my anxiety attacks are the job of getting 2 homes ready for sale & not having enough money to keep everything going. I know the money issues are definitely having an effect because the anxiety attack I had after dealing with finances was much more than I could deal with......causing a total melt down.

One day when this is all over, I will be able to sit back & take a deep breath, sit swinging on my on the front porch of my new farm with a glass of ice tea & look back at it all, knowing that I was able to make some difference in the lives of cancer patients that are vunerable to horrible people like we had to deal with.

Until then........anxiety ++++++,
Debbie
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Old Sep 07, 2006, 09:30 AM
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Hi Deb, I don't blame you a bit for what you are doing. I agree with your PDoc, it's probably making you worse right now. Your story is compelling and if I were in my old profession I probably would take it on and get the information and find the people who would be best to look at prosecution.

That said, I don't know your state. I live in a tiny state and I would call the Attorney General's office and ask for a face to face with what you have so far. You at the least have Medicare fraud and that should be something the state would be interested in.

I would also call a congressman and get them to start looking into it for you.

The thing is, this has the potential to make you so ill. DELEGATE! Get the right people involved to help. Sounds like you may be little but packed with punch so go for it.

The hospital did wrong, big time, contact professional licensing on the social worker who gave out info on your mom.

Ask to sit with your State's attorney for a little face to face. Here my local guy is my friend's spouse. Unfortunately not in the county that procsecuted my spouse but....

If you are legally disabled there may be additional groups to help with this. I encourage you to delegate all that you can as I think I know you well enough to say you will be digging up a can of worms that will have too high of a personal cost to you. Your health is most important. I would look too for groups that advocate for people with disabilities. Good luck.
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Old Sep 09, 2006, 02:12 PM
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Wisewoman,

Great advice!!

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Old Sep 09, 2006, 04:17 PM
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You are very brave for taking it this far, but wisewomen is right.... get the right people to help you, don't take it on on your own. You must be in a really bad state if seroquel don't help. I drink one and I'm out for the day! I hope you get the justice you are looking for.

It's sad that it's so much easier to get info you want illegally than in an honest way, that's why it's so easy for criminals nowadays! Best of luck to you!
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Old Sep 10, 2006, 08:14 AM
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Wisewoman,

Thank you for pointing out the people that would be good to contact. I know that has been my huge problem all along is that the people I have contacted about what happened just say, "that is really bad" & it stops there without any suggestions of any direction of people I can go to for taking the situation farther. I know also when it was happening, I would have loved to have someone who could have taken my hand & lead me to help me know what I could & couldn't do that was right for my Mother instead of letting her have the ability to mess everything up when she started making emotional rather than logical decisions. I know when I get settled in Kentucky, I hope to get into a place where I can help people in situations similar to the one I was in when my Mother was dying. Being an only child, I was all by myself & I didn't get any help from the social workers....it was like I didn't even exist.

At the time I felt like I did everything I possibly could....reporting to the police & to Adult Protective Services, but even they dropped it. I can understand why the police had to because they only took on the ID theft aspect of the situation & I was just too good at reacting to everything that happened & stopped it all before any evidence could show up. The Adult Protective Services is definitely a problem. I found out about it being a problem after talking to the leison between them & the police but he couldn't get any information on the case either. I can't just let that slide either. They are going to regret doing that since I dug up a can of worms....I am not willing to look the other way. I know that I have so much anger inside that if I don't do something positive about what happened, I will never forgive myself.

I have always been that way my whole life whenever I see something wrong that I can possibly do something about....I never have been able to just look the other way without trying everything I possibly can & turning over every rock in the path. Finding the path is usually the biggest problem.

I know that now, I am struggling with the pounding heart & chest pains, but know I have gone through it before & it has always proved to be caused by anxiety, so I am sure that this time it's nothing different. Initially I was taking a large dose of seroquel & it was ok to knock myself out. Unfortunately, I can't afford to do that now. The other day, I needed to calm down & took a fairly large dose. I knocked me out & I completely didn't remember getting a call & setting up an appointment with the real estate person who is listing my Mothers home. I was so embarrassed when he called & asked me about missing the appointment. I have told him a little about the anxiety that I am dealing with & that the meds can cause problems like this. I feel horrible having excuses, but sometimes I just can't help it. The worst part lately is that when I wake up, the pounding heart returns immediately. It is frustrating knowing that I need to do what I am doing to help me deal with the anger I have, but knowing that I have to deal with how I am reacting to the anxiety level is causes......a catch 22.

I want you to know how much I appreciate you pointing me in directions where I can get some help & I agree that I need to delegate once I get the full information out there & feel that they aren't ignoring important aspects of the situation. I know I can't do everything....except for letting every possible people know what happened until they can do something positive to stop her.

Thank you also EJ & Tanya for your support also.....it is a great feeling knowing that there are people who do support me & I really appreciate your words of encouragement.

Debbie
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