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<font color="red"> A Wise Person once said..... </font>

+ NEVER assume any thing - for most assumptions are 90% wrong +

<font color="red"> ... May this quote go along way in the Support & Acceptance of ALL ... </font>


LoVe,
Rhapsody -

Felix Unger also had a quote about what happens when one "assumes"...

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Felix Unger also had a quote about what happens when one "assumes"...

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YES...... I know that one -

"Never ASSUME, because when you ASSUME, you make an ***** of U and ME."

This saying was used by Felix in the episode "My Strife in Court" - (66)

While Felix was trying to give away an extra ticket for a Broadway musical, a woman offered him money for it, and he was arrested for scalping. While cross-examining the woman in court, Felix asks the woman if he said that he had been selling the ticket. The woman responded that she had just assumed that he was, and Felix interrupted her with the "assume" line.

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I agree!

I often desire for the "rule of not assuming" (no matter how right one thinks they are) to be able to play its self out more here with in the Pages of PC..... I feel we all come here needing support, understanding & acceptance and not that of condemnation, judgment or wrong assumptions.... for as it says: WE WILL PROBABLY BE WRONG 90% of the TIME!

<font color="purple"> Food for Thought... </font>
Is the 10% worth the wound and hurt a wrong assumption might create within another?

LoVe,
Rhapsody - ((( )))

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I agree.

But also, my truth is not your truth, nor another's truth.

And, each of us has a new perspective from each other, that's what makes PC so great!

Can one also assume another is assuming, and thus be wrong? Assumptions are often correct. Sometimes what might look like an assumption, is really a well analyzed thought process.

For me, Rhapsody, I try to take what someone says "at face value." That means unless the history is strong with a member (and unwaivering) I try to read just what they posted, and respond to that (not reading into it, nor thinking they just did that or said that or we just went over that...)

I'm sorry you are fighting with this hurt.

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Can one also assume another is assuming, and thus be wrong? Assumptions are often correct. Sometimes what might look like an assumption, is really a well analyzed thought process.

For me, Rhapsody, I try to take what someone says "at face value." That means unless the history is strong with a member (and unwavering) I try to read just what they posted, and respond to that (not reading into it, nor thinking they just did that or said that or we just went over that...)

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I understand with what YOU said here, and agree: I try to take what someone says "at face value." - but then again the "at face value" is often left open to another's interpretation (which can also be wrong - with what was actually meant, trying to be expressed), hence leaving the wrong assumption in which I am speaking of.

.... I am just trying to say that we should not assume that we know what the other person is trying to say (express, no matter how poorly it may have been presented), therefore, we make an unfounded assumption of the matter and of the person based on our personal interpretation of words, and not theirs.


LoVe,
Rhapsody -

P.S.
I guess I am witting this (posting it) for I have been at the wrong end of assumptions one to many times.... and I am personally a little feed up (sick to my stomach) with people that do not really knowing the real ME thinking and assuming things about me and my life that are not true.... therefore I am unfairly judged, condemned by another's interpretation.

... sharing as to help others not to make the same mistakes that have hurt / wounded me.... left me feeling unsafe at times.

... I am releasing as not to leave a wound unattended, therefore, it never heals.

Good thread...


Fuzzy

Thank YOU FUZZY......
I will keep this thread in my favorites and will cont' to provide a LINK to it whenever someone might need a little help in remembering the MOTTO in the never ASSUME philosophy.

LoVe,
Rhapsody -

I sometimes assume the opposite too, before I do something, so I'll be "balanced" in what I'm thinking about. Usually there's some indication which end of the seesaw has more merit

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we should not assume that we know what the other person is trying to say (express, no matter how poorly it may have been presented),

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THIS may be your problem in a nutshell. How is anyone to take the written word at face value EXCEPT how it was presented?

Many times, we're not aware just how much of our emotions or confusion comes through in our daily speech. I know that I had to relearn how to communitcate more clearly and less emotionally if I was wanting to make a point or have someone clearly understand a question I was asking. I even had to learn how to answer the phone differently! People didn't want to call me anymore because I was grunting and sighing when I answered. I didn't sound happy to be getting a call. I wasn't even aware of it until I listened to an outgoing message I recorded! EEESH!

A friend and I were communicating by email quite a bit while she was living out of town. She told me that although I had a sense of humor about it, all I did was complain.

We really do need to think (and reread) twice, sometimes more, when we speak but especially when we write our communications since in writing, we don't have the advantage of people hearing our inflections or seeing the expression on our face.

Each of us is responsible for the words we speak and how we speak them. We can't expect others, much less give THEM the responsibility of interpreting those words like WE meant them. I don't have the good fortune of having a mind reader amongst the people I communicate with. None of us do, I don't think!

I always try to remember the old saying " To Assume"
means if your wrong you've made an *** out of you and me.

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we should not assume that we know what the other person is trying to say (express, no matter how poorly it may have been presented),

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THIS may be your problem in a nutshell.
How is anyone to take the written word at face value EXCEPT how it was presented?

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... By taking what the original post (or) conversation was actually about and by not taking what others may have added or said in the conversation as the intention of the one who was seeking the help in the first place.

... How something is presented, even when done correctly, will not always be how the reader / listener will actually interpret it.

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We really do need to think (and reread) twice, sometimes more, when we speak but especially when we write our communications since in writing, we don't have the advantage of people hearing our inflections or seeing the expression on our face.

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That is very much TRUE.... but then again one can try to explain what they really meant and yet the person that has already perceived it another way does not always take the corrected explanation as the truth.

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Each of us is responsible for the words we speak and how we speak them. We can't expect others, much less give THEM the responsibility of interpreting those words like WE meant them.

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... IMO - most people do not give the responsibility of interpreting their words (written or stated) onto another..... some people just out right take the responsibility upon themselves to re-interpret the meaning without asking to verify the meaning before they assume, no matter how clear the message may have been to the many others that read it.

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Once again (please remember) that this THREAD was started by ME, not to condemn any one - but to help educate others... for better understanding of and for us all in the future.

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... I too have learned from this thread..... by reading &amp; listening to the other replies.

LoVe,
Rhapsody -

Sorry too much yelling here.. Hope I am not assuming something .. just MHO...

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Sorry too much yelling here.. Hope I am not assuming something .. just MHO...

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I hear YOU....................... lol.
And I am SORRY if you found my caps as yelling, for that was not my intention (even though that is what most online ppl think "CAPS" are meaning) - some of us just use them to stress a point, not to yell.

I will not post any more CAPS in this particular thread.............


LoVe,
Rhapsody -

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this THREAD was started by ME, not to condemn any one - but to help educate others... for better understanding of and for us all in the future.

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That is precisely what I was trying to do, but as usual, I get an argument so what's the use??

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SeptemberMorn said:
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this THREAD was started by ME, not to condemn any one - but to help educate others... for better understanding of and for us all in the future.

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That is precisely what I was trying to do, but as usual, I get an argument so what's the use??

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Its All Good......... I was not agruing with you or any one else - just stating (repling back) with my thoughts on what was said.

LoVe,
Rhapsody - ((( hugs )))

Oh, yeah?? Could have fooled me! But then... I must have been "assuming."

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Oh, yeah?? Could have fooled me! But then... I must have been "assuming."

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OK - I am not going there... I started this THREAD to help & educate (and) to share... not to fight.

Take - Care................. I am SORRY that you feel or have assumed some thing about me that is not true.


LoVe,
Rhapsody - ((( hugs )))

My mother got me this weekend on assumptions -- Something I learned before what had forgotten until this last weekend

I assumed how she was feeling about a certain situation and she replied " When did u jump into my body " Did god give u the power of possession

I laughed my arse off and quietly apologized

Tymber

P.S.

Please let us not get this thread locked...... for there is no reason for it.

Thanks....
LoVe,
Rhapsody -

I am glad that YOU learned some thing from this thread...... WAY to GO!!! (w00t w00t 4 you)

LoVe,
Rhapsody -