CONSIDERING EACH OTHER'S ILLNESSES

You're welcome AlteredState....I'm just hoping to steer the conversation towards the positive....just like you said, to keep in mind everyone's various mental illness, and remembering that this is a Support site. I do think its wonderful that even with conflict, we still thrive to help another. And that is the primary aim of this site: To GET and GIVE help. That is the beauty of PC and why I love it. And that is why I think this topic is a good one, as long as we stay nice.

In order for the individual to thrive, the community has to be stable. And without the individuals, there would be no community.

Love you guys,

Rayna

In the various forums i have perused and at times contributed to, of course i have seen topics veer of course and become something else. This is how conversations go in real life. I dont really see the problem with it. Isnt this what we are doing having conversations, only in print? If the person who first posted wants to post again to bring it back around , that is all to the good, but i think driftis only natural and actually may be good because it brings in other points related to the original topic.

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i think driftis only natural and actually may be good because it brings in other points related to the original topic.

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Quite true, and of course, that is what I would want. However, it is when the topic veers so far off the main topic that it no longer relates in any way. I find that when this happens, opinions begin to counter other opinions that do not even relate to the orginal post, and by this time, the subject matter is completely lost. If one has an opinion about something that does not relate to the original, at least in some sense, then start another thread.

When the topic veers so far away from the orginal, it becomes too difficult to even figure out who is saying what to whom and about what.

Of course, if the subject line could be changed to follow certain points of view, it would make it much easier to follow that point, however, we are not allowed to do this here.

Having a conversation drift is not unusual, but when one wishes to discuss and / or listen to other's opinions on the original topic, veering off becomes nighmarish, like this post/response (which has absolutely nothing to do with the original)!

Maybe I should have started another post to answer this post?? Oh, heck, I don't even know what I'm talking about anymore...

the art of topic sentances...

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Of course, if the subject line could be changed to follow certain points of view, it would make it much easier to follow that point, however, we are not allowed to do this here.

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The originator of the thread is always allowed to take the thread wherever they wish

I think that part of my own mental illness is that I go off on tangents. I lose focus and I tend to be very long-winded. I hope that doesn't bother people too much. I try my best to stay on topic and be supportive, but my brain doesn't work in a linear way. Something reminds of something else and then that reminds me of something else, etc.

My apologies to anyone I may have offended by being this way.

Ah, not so. One is not allowed to change the subject line, so I am told...

Do not start something on my account just 'cause I can't keep my mouth shut...!

AS

Man, I hate it when I delete a great message...

ANYWAY...

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I think that part of my own mental illness is that I go off on tangents. I lose focus and I tend to be very long-winded. I hope that doesn't bother people too much. I try my best to stay on topic and be supportive, but my brain doesn't work in a linear way. Something reminds of something else and then that reminds me of something else, etc.

My apologies to anyone I may have offended by being this way.

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I JUST ABSOLUTELY LOVED YOUR WHOLE POST THAT I THOUGHT I WOULD POST IT AGAIN!!!!

You have put, IN THE MOST PRECIOUS WAY, how I AM / DO / THINK ... about what I FEEL!

OMG (and sorry if that offends), but no one has ever put into words, exactly what I feel, as you have now!

I do not believe any of us truly mean anyone harm, and I am so devastated when I learn that I may have hurt someone, as you have expressed yourself.

Thank you Juliana, for putting into words, something that may have taken me a lifetime to put into words, a way I can better understand myself!

And, as Juliana so eloquently and genuinely put:

"My apologies to anyone I may have offended by being this way."

Altered State



Sorry for freaking on the Red "X"!!! Just thought it was a trigger for the better...

don't see those often...

Yay! I made a good post. I'm glad you related to what I was saying. I was afraid no one would understand what I was on about.

Please excuse a newbie jumping in here...but I coudnt help it.

firstly...I always try to think about what I am saying , escpecially if I know someones issues.

However...I a bipolar and have been known when in a mixed state...to be quite nasty. Now..I have told you that..but does it mean that you must be expected to lolerate rudenss, verbal abuse or asinine oral spoutings from me?

ABSOLUTELY NOT...and if this place allows it, then this will be the shortest stay on a website for me.

No matter our problems, and we all have them, we also have a choice. A choice to act in approriate ways, using acceptable language, etc.

Annie

Thank you for your reply Newbie on the Block..... and I could not agree with you more - for no one deserves to be treatment badly by me, you or another person just because our mental health issue(s) are having a bad day - - - I personally try to stay away when my day is not going so well and I feel it might effect my attitude with any one.

And - I have personally have NEVER attacked another straight up and all because I disagreed with their opinion on the subject at hand or based upon my personal assumptions (for assumptions are often wrong).... but I have reacted negatively in return after being attacked or dumped on.... that will not happen again - NOT by ME.

http://tinyurl.com/39f6sn



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Folks, I'm sorry I'm going to have to disagree here.

Threads are threads, but as they grow and mature, they can take on different meanings, and go in different directions. In fact, some very large threads have very rich, interesing tangetial sub-threads (often with their own unique subject lines).

There will be no community ban on changing subject lines, but you can certainly respect the author's wishes (especially here, in the creative forum) and not do it if you're only commenting on someone's work.

DocJohn


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Sometimes, that's easier said than done. (considering other people's illnesses) I have my own illness I'm trying to tame and I'm not always looking at things from a "community perspective". I get emotional, I have problems expressing myself and sometimes I'm so busy trying to "protect my own" that I don't "see" the other person-just my hurt.
That's sounds really selfish and I know it is but I'm being honest. I just got finished speaking my mind in another thread and no, it wasn't nice but am I sorry for it? No. I needed to say something so I said it. I'm not trying to start a fight but I would like to have my say in some matters and sometimes my say isn't the most thoughtful and considerate thing to write.
I think if everyone became so hyper conscience and aware and afraid of hurting someone else's feelings or always considering everyone else's illnesses-this site would be totally fake and too polite. We're going to bump heads, disagree, rub each other the wrong way-it happens with "normal" people so why shouldn't it happen with emotionally retarded ones? (Okay, I speak for myself on that one.) I'll rephrase that-why shouldn't a bunch of very hurt, confused and for the most part socially maladjusted group of people be any different if not worst?

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I think if everyone became so hyper conscience and aware and afraid of hurting someone else's feelings or always considering everyone else's illnesses-this site would be totally fake and too polite.

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I agree with you here - if that was the only case....

But it is not and in all honesty what some are referring to are those that would say any thing and every thing under sun to another member (and) a lot of times with out much consideration for the other members feelings......

.... at least this is the way I see it - have seen it from the side of history.

Oh, thanks Sky. I was told otherwise when I first joined PC that subject lines were not to be changed, so, of course, I didn't want to get in hot water by inciting anything.

So, what do we do? Ask the author of the original thread if it is ok to change the subject line? What I have seen on other sites, is that when one is making a comment on a particular point in a thread, it is renamed and any further addition to that sub-point would use the same name, until, of course, it is split off again. That way, instead of having to read everyones' comments, we can just follow the sub-point discussion that we are only interested in.

I'm up for it, because it makes certain opinions and discussions much easier to follow...

AS

Yes, the originator may take the thread off topic if they wish... but really, if it's too far off, we should begin a new thread.

Anyone who wishes to make an off topic post within the thread, while remaining in the general idea of things, should use OT either add it to the subject line for their post, or at the beginning of their post. (Such as above for this post.)

No one else should change the subject line, only to add or delete the "OT," or the author of the original post.

I think I have this correct.