[Irine]

You know........YOU do something...

Well maybe i shouldn`t say it

I am a student for %#@&#! graphic design.

I just feel when my work is critisized...sort of...and i have been working on myself...self asteem...

Then problem in my logo is THE LOGO and not my self asteem, howevrer

i have been working on this piece of crap for 4 or 5 hours i think.

My eyes hurt.

Phew....i used to doubt the fact that i have tallent and feel worthless and stuff

I JUST DON`T FEEL LIKE DOING ANOTHER %#@&#! LOGO

Well i will try to do something tomorrow.
I don`t know

I do something. And i like it. and when it comes closer to showing it i feel SO DOWN

even if nobody have seen it yet

and they they give me the crits! About what i have been doing for the last 5 hours!!!!!

[Mouse_]

I think critisim is very hard on most folks. I know it touches the core of my being and burns me up and makes me feel like I do not deserve my place on this earth. You know If your logo looks and feels good to you! then it is good!..who knows where the critism is coming from? who says the person who judges you is right? I say, if you are happy with your work then fight for it!

[nowheretorun]

(((LadyM)))))) ... harsh criticism hurts everyone..

a Logo is capable of adaptation? if you'd like? or, imo, as an artist stand up for your work?

sending care... dont let the emotions carry you away... you're ok... your work is at the stage it is at... nothing wrong there...

everything grows...

[sabby]

((((( lady )))))

Working on self esteem is hard and sometimes takes lots of practice. Learning how to take critisism(sp) is hard to do sometimes. Many times it depends on how it is delivered that determines our reactions.

I think one needs to learn that they can be open to different ideas about our work. And then learning how to verbalize when there is a critizing comment to say back, ok, how do you suggest such and such and why? Maybe in finding more understanding as to why someone critisized your work, it may be easier for you to take?

It takes time to feel more comfy about yourself. Keep working at it....you will get there


sabby

(((LadyM))))))
Criticism does hurt , that I understand , I paint and at times what i see and others see is two different things......
Last painting I did I changed due to my daughters thought on it.....
when done I was not happy with it.....LOL
So i redid it to make me happy
If you feel in your mind you did your best work , talk to others ,,,,,
show them........you have to be happy with yourself
muffy

[Irine]

Thank you my friends

Now, NO they weren`t ahrsh or judgmental.
I CAN AGREE that it`s hard to read

I am just tired of sitting infromt of the PC right now

They are not harsh jsut being constructive
And the only way i can learn is from critisizm.

Yeah Mouse, this is EXACTLY hwo i felt...but i try not to.
I just think that this is better that i had...but it`s desperating when THIS one is not good enought too.

LIke...black and red are not good choices and she told me to use them! but the teacher hasn`t seen..i jsut went to a forum

Now...I just missed most of the sketch lessons of this project and have a hand in next week.

You see.,...why do you think i didn`t come?
I felt MISSARABEL because of the pressure and the lack of success.
But heck you see this is my probelm,,,

I get desparate too early. All i have to do is to rethink it and relate it to my work

But it`s annoying...i am just too tired an too hungry to do it again

%#@&#! what good is it for me to post about it and think about it and talk about it

I don`t want to feel worthless

See - in singing i am a begginer
gRAHPIC DESIGN - beginner

i am SICK of being a beginner
and this is the EGO edamn it. our worst enemy.
THIS i should curse more than anything....

[nowheretorun]

imo, you go girl... everyone has added good posts, but, imo, sabby says it best..

and, re the ego? you may well be onto something there imo...

take care LadyM

[Irine]

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and, re the ego? you may well be onto something there imo...

take care LadyM

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Yes. it`s written in lots of self help books....The ego is the worst human enemy

It makes you htink i ma less or worse...

You knwo i feel like doing something and feelig I AM GOOD AT IT

like OBJECTIVLY feeling withrout tryint to be spiritual when i say get rid of the ego is my "spiritual self"

I just have been trying to improve..and i imagine every 1 ion class pity me and think i should be thrown out of college...

Sometimes some suicidal thoughts cick in................
I just feel stuck in my bad design.........
only when i design certain stuff i am good. But i can`t design only one style.

%#@&#! this design
but it could be the same with everything.

[sabby]

You know hon, there is nothing wrong with taking a step back and breathing. Walk away from what is upsetting your for a few moments (if that's possible) and regrouping. Doing some self talk in the postive can be very helpful to get you back on track.

"ok, I'm learning here...that's what college is all about, learning. No, I'm not perfect, but neither is anyone else. Learning is about making mistakes and opening my eyes to 'possibilities' " Good self talk in the positive

Sometimes is just a matter of tweaking how we look at things.....and I am NOT suggesting that your feelings are not valid....because they are.

Don't forget to breathe (((( lady ))))


sabby

[nowheretorun]

the idea of growth has saved me many times LadyM.. the ego? so complicated... many paralells to spirituality...

i would only think of saying this... to know who you are in the very core of you being is something worth knowing and becoming partners with...

inside you, imho us all, is what we want to become...

we have each reieved certain gifts and abilities...

we can choose to apply those gifts for our own benefit at any given time, imho...

with the gift of clarity tand the application of real sensibility, whatever we choose is entirely attainable imo...

criticism is the tool which refines our abilties if managed constructively imo...

find a connection between what the center of you desires, and compliance with real factors... such as a career and personal survival...

that is the most i can think of right now LadyM... let your good Spirit guide you...

refer to every resource that sustains you...

[eskielover]

Wow, I know how it is to always be on the beginning end of things...always learning something new. Learning new ideas, new techniques, new things that work & don't work. The thing with learning is that it's a growing process & when we stop learning, we stop growing....Don't know about you, but I always want to keep learning new things because that is what challenges me. That is what makes me know that I am alive.

Unfortunately, some people have a way of teaching things that comes across as criticism...& then again, sometimes, that's the way we take it when it wasn't actually intended that way. Sadly, it can just be the mood we are in at the time when we hear something that determines how we feel about what we hear. Those are personal issues we have to deal with & condition ourselves to accept information in a non-critical way...as a learning process.

Graphic design & how colours work together to be appealing, to be readeable....how many times my astigmatism has been set off just by a colour combination that works for others.

My daughter went back to junior college & got a certificate in graphic design.....she was sending me all of the awsome designs & projects she was doing.......that looked like such a wonderfully creative field to be in. Her projects went on from the logo to designing a DVD cover & matching movie poster as the final project. The awsome part of these classes is that even with the constraints placed on the projects to provide specific learning tools, they provide an outlet for creativity.

Looking at the positive in the learning & turning it into enjoyment is the challenge for not feeling worthless....also, getting enough rest & eating well, to be in a mentally good place for the mind to be able to open up....is also an important part of the process.

Hope you can let go a bit & start to enjoy the wonderful learning experience you have ahead of you,
Debbie

[Irine]

Thank you guys.

for all the posting. That`s sweet.

[Perna]

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The awsome part of these classes is that even with the constraints placed on the projects to provide specific learning tools, they provide an outlet for creativity.

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That's what I try to do when I'm creating is to make sure I'm enjoying myself and like what I'm creating, that I'm doing it primarily for me. That way the other people's thoughts don't get to me so much, I can consider them in light of what I want for myself and incorporate them or not.

[Irine]

: That's what I try to do when I'm creating is to make sure I'm enjoying myself and like what I'm creating, that I'm doing it primarily for me. That way the other people's thoughts don't get to me so much, I can consider them in light of what I want for myself and incorporate them or not.

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yes, but here...if i don`t listen to others i will find myself in troubel during presentation
When i am writing songs,. though, i do as you say here



From the shining sun
And the blue sky
I came to this gray
From the dark cold storm
The sleet, the wind
I came to this rain

Nothing will take away my pain.

You think you will see the light
So far you`re leading
But you always loose the fight
Wounded and bleeding
Think you`ll fix it up
Trying to get up
Cick it violently...still bleeding

Then say "I don`t care"
Turn and run away
Thought you got that far
But you`re here to stay

I apologise to you
Carrying all that blame
Though there`s nohting to forgive
And with all the shame
There `s no way you can leave

You can hope for better
Or run away for worse
You can think it`ll change sooner
Than you have the time to curse

Can`t get aviod suffering
As much as you hate it
Can`t skip this learning
But be there and except it

No dreaming of success
You don`t care more or less
This is where you are
No, sorry, you are not a star

You are existense
In it`s pure shape
You show no resistance
There`s no need to escape

[Irine]

ha! Perna! look!

THAT`S funny..lol...You said that you do thing for yourself
I said i do so when i wrinte songs....

OMG
And after that i worte one ......didn`t think of it....

how things match............