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Old Oct 07, 2016, 01:32 PM
The_little_didgee The_little_didgee is offline
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I totally understand what it's like to be lumped into a category. Instead of even attempting to offer me practical solutions, all of my therapists have dropped me as a patient as they consider me untreatable. Once they've made up their minds that's it, it's law. And all the ones after simply, follow suit.
Most people are treatable. I think being heard is one of the many requirements for a good outcome.

I was diagnosed with personality disorder, when I was 16 back in the 1990s. After that I was assumed to be a wretched individual and a master manipulator who was a carrier of the plague. Apparently I had a history of abuse that was committed by my Indigenous father. I was also considered untreatable. Almost all therapists and psychiatrists wanted nothing to do with me after that. Eventually I gave up on them, and quit taking all the medication I was on. It was either continue with them and die or live. Note that 'black and white thinking' can be very helpful.

All those diagnoses were troubling. I never believed them and the history of abuse I apparently had. After I quit psychiatry I discovered most of my symptoms were caused by the pills, because they started shortly after I began SSRI treatment and went away when I stopped.

I went to psychiatry for help with depression and left four years later nearly broken. When I entered the system, I was going through a very difficult time at school. I was bullied, struggling with unidentified learning challenges and undiagnosed ASD. What I really needed was a thorough assessment, school accommodations and some decent psychotherapy, not pills and an admission to an adolescent psychiatric unit. I also really needed to be heard, not judged prematurely, and respected.

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Old Oct 07, 2016, 02:18 PM
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Your ^ whole post is really appreciated! I'd like to pick out one sentence, though.

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. . .I also really needed to be heard, not judged prematurely, and respected.
That's a much better description of what I felt I needed from my last therapist -- and others -- not just "understanding", which I didn't get.
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Old Oct 07, 2016, 02:34 PM
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Agreed, sometimes all I want is to just be heard and to be respected. I've had enough judgments for several lifetimes.
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Old Oct 09, 2016, 05:22 AM
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I need a legal euthanasia program, but I'm not getting that help, and I don't live in Switzerland
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Old Oct 09, 2016, 06:50 AM
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I've also always felt that I don't belong, aren't able to be myself, aren't really being understood. I guess that's part of a personality disorder.

But the thing is, I don't really fit and belong with most everybody. It's not just me, it's THEM.

Atypical, I know what you mean about getting into trouble. I say that, too, about myself. I tend to get myself into situations with people that I just shouldn't have, just should have seen the red flags, just should have stayed away. But I can't stand boredom, which is the alternative. Maybe it's a thirst for excitement. Also PD traits.

I also never thought the trauma I experienced, was what was behind my problems of today, but I am sure they are to a degree.

I think it's a fine idea to have a thread that is practice for saying things you'd like to try IRL and testing people's reactions on here where it's safe.

Go for it.
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Old Oct 11, 2016, 02:45 AM
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Most people are treatable. I think being heard is one of the many requirements for a good outcome.

I was diagnosed with personality disorder, when I was 16 back in the 1990s. After that I was assumed to be a wretched individual and a master manipulator who was a carrier of the plague. Apparently I had a history of abuse that was committed by my Indigenous father. I was also considered untreatable. Almost all therapists and psychiatrists wanted nothing to do with me after that. Eventually I gave up on them, and quit taking all the medication I was on. It was either continue with them and die or live. Note that 'black and white thinking' can be very helpful.

All those diagnoses were troubling. I never believed them and the history of abuse I apparently had. After I quit psychiatry I discovered most of my symptoms were caused by the pills, because they started shortly after I began SSRI treatment and went away when I stopped.

I went to psychiatry for help with depression and left four years later nearly broken. When I entered the system, I was going through a very difficult time at school. I was bullied, struggling with unidentified learning challenges and undiagnosed ASD. What I really needed was a thorough assessment, school accommodations and some decent psychotherapy, not pills and an admission to an adolescent psychiatric unit. I also really needed to be heard, not judged prematurely, and respected.

Are you also bipolar?
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Old Oct 18, 2016, 11:38 AM
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I have ASPD and used to have many NPD traits. I've never received any real treatment as most therapists are too busy insisting that I don't "really" have ASPD and that I'm just a bad case of PTSD. That attitude is utter lunacy, but I've given up trying to reason with any kind of "professional" who's far more concerned about preserving their worldview than accepting that not everyone is going to fit their model of "someone who needs therapy".

Lately I demanded to get psychological testing done just to prove a point, I asked specifically to be tested for PTSD. Those tests all came up negative. My point is this: traumatic events do not define who you are and "trauma" is never and I do mean never the sole reason someone develops a personality disorder, and I am sick of therapists focusing so much on someone's alleged crappy childhood rather than helping them deal with their present problems.

I would love to get some practical advice on how to stop getting into the same kinds of trouble over and over again to name one example of a recurrent problem I have associated with my ASPD. But I have asked for practical advice, solutions, etc to this problem among others and I have received less than nothing and I was told that I needed to focus on my terrible childhood which is supposedly the root source of all my "evil". I am not joking, this is the message I have been given both directly and otherwise anytime I've acknowledged that hey, maybe I can use an outside opinion to my advantage!

People say ASPD and NPD sufferers don't ask for help, and well, I can certainly see why. These so called "professionals" are a joke.

Any and all progress I've made in improving myself and my life, I've done it all on my own. I had no other choice. Having outside perspectives would be amazing sometimes, but I've had to accept that in all likelihood I will never get that.

The most useful advice I've gotten is from other people with PD's.

I have plenty of ideas for what would be helpful for PD sufferers, but that would turn into an even longer post so I won't get on that soapbox today.


ETA: All the mental health professionals I've seen seem to be far more concerned with what label my problems fall under than actually looking at my problems and helping me solve them. For an analogy of this phenomenon think of it this way: it would be like United States leaders debating endlessly on whether or not hurricane Matthew is a "real" hurricane, and instead insisting it must be a tropical storm or a tropical depression or well they shouldn't call it Matthew that's such a bad name blah blah blah instead of focusing on relief efforts to the people who have suffered, are suffering, and will suffer because of the storm.
I agree with Atypical here. The most help I have had with my condition is by people in forums like this. No doctor sitting across from me has been of any help nor has the many different medicines I have tried. A person like me, pointing things out have been so much more beneficial to the end game than any so called professional thus far.
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