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Old Apr 22, 2005, 07:02 AM
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Is it usual for a T clinitian to give a patient every package of a sample in the offices? I was given so much free abilify and geodon by a T who cleaned out all cabinets in the clinic that I had an entire kitchen cupboard literally filled with the stuff. The result was tyhat I got the idea that this T was suppliing me with enough meds to OD several times over and it wasnt an issue of saving $ as my copay for meds is low and I saw her frequently enough. I had been becoming psychotic and paranoid and her behavior seemed to elaborate that. The last thing I did before admittance to inpatient hospital was throw all the free stuff away. It filled a tall kitchen trash bag. Was this unethical on her part to supply a suicidal person with the means of taking down a horse.?

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Old Apr 22, 2005, 08:06 AM
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wow :scared: i don't know about the ehtics and so on but that does seem a bit weird. i hope you are feeling ok now xx
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Old Apr 22, 2005, 10:20 AM
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Wow - was this a Therapist or Psychiatrist? A Therapist should not even have medications because they are not licensed to prescribe them ! If it was a Psychiatrist, I would have to say without a doubt unethical ! First I would determine the EXACT title of the person who gave you the meds (to determine if they had the medications legally), and I would report them. You were so fortunate to realize there might be something wrong, and getting rid of the medications rather than use them to OD, but what about someone else this person might give a trash bag full of meds too? They might use them ! It gives me the shivers to think of ANY therapist/clinician/psychiatrist giving that many samples to anyone - especially if they knew you were possibly suicidal !

I hope your inpatient stay was a positive one, and perhaps you will not see that T again !!! Good luck !
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Old Apr 22, 2005, 02:36 PM
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this was a LPN who may prescribe in this state but she works under a Psychiatrist in his offices and the pharm. samples are supplied to him apparently. She cleaned out his supply.
I does seem like odd behavior to me- I told ER that I thought i was being led to OD like giving a gun to a person and instructing them where you hide the bullets. It makes the other responsible if they load and fire.
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Old Apr 22, 2005, 02:46 PM
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Do you have trouble affording the medication? See, I do and my p doc gave me many samples and doubled my dose on paper so I get twice as much for the money cause I can't really afford all the medications I'm on. Please don't be offended by me asking and no answer is needed. I don't need to know your financial status, but it was the first thing that popped into my head cause that's why my doc did it.

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Old Apr 22, 2005, 02:54 PM
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No Ryan,
I have a pretty cheap copay for any meds and this stuff was newly prescribed so I dont see the logic in loading me up with stuff that might not have been usefull.
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Old Apr 22, 2005, 03:01 PM
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Huh... weird then. That was just a thought. Maybe she was being helpful.

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Old Apr 22, 2005, 03:08 PM
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Boy, do I wish that my pdoc would do that for me! My co-pay for Abilify is over $100.00. The cost would be over $400.00 w/o rx insurance at my pharmacy.

Maybe the nurse didn't know about your low co-pay.
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Old Apr 26, 2005, 09:33 PM
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I guess this being a question more about counter-transference that is why it did not merit a reply from Cam? himself.
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Old Apr 26, 2005, 09:48 PM
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How is this a question about counter-transference?
Sorry, only correlation I can see to the term "counter-transference would be the sample drugs were transfered from the T's counter to yours........I don't understand at all what you mean here ! (and yes, I do know what counter-transference is).......sorry if u only wanted a response from "Cam" - who I dont know.
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Old Apr 27, 2005, 06:15 AM
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I mean was wondering about the BEHAVIOR of the T who knew we were suicidal impulses and yet prescribed 2 new meds and then gave us every sample of them in the office to take home- a shopping bag full. Enought to tranquilize and kill a horse or 2. Like the implied message was "heres enough too OD if you choose that route" - Im guessing this Cam only replies to those who have not demonstrated any delusional thinking or questioned anyones authority in the past. I took away the bio in the profile because including psychosis just makes some people assume nothing we think is valid and any question is without merit. Thats why i get no direct answers- " just ignore her for awhile and she'll dissociate and forget what she asked- pretend - and then we wont have to deal with her" I know the stigma of having NO CREDIBILITY because of dx.
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Old Apr 27, 2005, 11:22 AM
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I didnt and still dont have any idea what your diagnosis is........I responded simply because I feel that the actions of the "T" were wrong, totally unethical, and should be reported. Now knowing a bit more - that you are/were suicidal, I still say that at the very least, you should tell the psychiatrist who she works for what happened - because when push comes to shove, its the psychiatrist who is responsible for her actions in his behalf.

I am glad you said you got rid of the meds, and hope that you are safe.
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Old Apr 27, 2005, 01:40 PM
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i just thoght if you put the name at the top you get a reply because thats how its worked for others who ask questons. Ignor-ance is not bliss its disMiss.
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Old Apr 27, 2005, 03:13 PM
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KathyAnita - Cam only stops in now on rare occasions. DocJohn announced a while ago that Cam wouldn't be around. So don't take it personally, OK?

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Old Apr 27, 2005, 07:06 PM
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only a person would take something personally.
We the people have no such agenda so they may feel free to personally disregard the text. We seek and keep our own council.
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