[drunksunflower]

well

as some of u may recall my last post was about starting paxil ... well that went ok and i think started helping, but then i got a really sick stomach and i thought it might be that.

i stopped taking it and i dunno if its that or something i've eaten (been going on for a week and a bit now). i stopped taking the AD as soon as i got sick (although it was OK for 3 weeks, but i thought my tummy just got upset with it cos i don't tend to get stomach bugs or anything, so that was the first thing i attributed it to).

nyways ive really felt my mood crash, i am still semi spewy, and too scared to start the paxil again. prozac also made me sick and celexa put on weight so ... i dont really know what to do.

how long does it take for depression to go away, i read recently that in 5 or so months it can just run its course.



and no this is not first time i've had it but that was interesting thing t read - maybe i can just wait it out.

i can't really answer your questions. but will send you some support. pat

[Lou_Pilder]

DS,
You wrote,[...how long...depression..away?..?].
It depends. There are different kinds of depression that have different causes. These differnt causes have time periods associated with other factors that can determine the length of the depression. Some depressions could be idiopathic, so the term could be unknown. I have found many causes for depression, and if you could identify your cause, then I could offer support from my perspective if you would like.
Lou

[LMo]

DSF... it doesn't always just 'go away'. If you don't get SOME kind of treatment (therapy, meds, both), you run the risk of getting stuck in a downward spiral. I'm sure you know that, but I'm pointing it out because depression, unfortunately, has the annoying side-effect of discouraging people to bother seeking treatment, producing an apathy of sorts.

There are still several other meds you can try. My husband and I both took Lexapro with no major side effects. I urge you to talk to your doctor instead of just trying to wait it out. Depression CAN and often DOES get worse if left untreated. Please?

[Kismet]

Hi Sun,
Individual bouts of major depressive disorder do often run their course. Talk to your shrink, of course, but my understanding is that if this is the only bout you have had you may not need drugs on a long term basis. Recurrent bouts do often tend to get worse however and if they are severe can disastrously effect your life. After several bouts of depression most p-docs believe that one should continue taking anti-depressants. If the SSRI's dont work for you there are other categories of ADs that might. Talk to your p-doc.

[drunksunflower]

thank u for the responses.

i dont have a pdoc/shrink, i just got the meds from my GP.

i dont have any major incidents that have caused this, its just smething i get i guess. if i wanted anything apart from SSRIs or tricyclics i would have to go to pdoc which i dont wanna do.

anyways ty for advice.

[drunksunflower]

i had another horrible little episode the other day and i dont really know what to do i took all the pills i had in the house. i just slept for 20 something hours.

i hate this

sorry if this is inappropriate post

:/

[drunksunflower]

also i dont have a T, pdoc or even a gp i like/trust.

i am not sure how to change things.

sorry for whining AGAIN.

[LMo]

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also i dont have a T, pdoc or even a gp i like/trust.

i am not sure how to change things.

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(( DSF ))

You're not whining, but you answered your own question, basically. You need to find a T, PDoc or GP that you trust. If you are doing something so desperate as taking ALL of the pills in your house, that means you need professional help and you need it now. Obviously, "handling it yourself" isn't working, so it's time to seek the help of someone who knows how to help you effectively.

Please get help

[drunksunflower]

ty for reply

i dont think i can go and go through the whole process of explaining it all to someone and i am scared of what someone would say if i mentioned what i did :/ i am not that nuts honestly. just a bad weekend.

[LMo]

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i am scared of what someone would say if i mentioned what i did

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Well, you just did. How was my reply? Wasn't so bad, was it? I think that any good T would have an equally neutral but concerned reply.

I think you owe it to yourself to try. If you were your daughter, wouldn't you do it for her? So do it for yourself, as we should care about ourselves as passionately as we care about our kids.

[drunksunflower]

Yes but if you tell a GP or anyone that you tried to od I don't know what they are able to do, and if anything like this got back to work i would be pretty screwed :/

ty again for replying ;0

[LMo]

well, why don't you start with a psychologist instead of a GP? A psychologist can't dispense meds, and they should be trained in how to respond to things like that. And confidentiality is mandatory -- how are you envisioning that the news could get back to work?

[drunksunflower]

ummm ... i don't know :/ i read a story on here where someone went to a dr after an OD and was made to go to a psyc ward - i dont know if they can do that to you here.

or perhaps im just paranoid lol.

[LMo]

I'm sure there are many other stories where people went to a dr after an OD and did NOT get made to go to a psych ward. I don't think you can let fear stand in the way of progress. Just try to stay calm and collected at the T or dr's appointment, and maybe don't mention it as the first reason for being there -- save it until you've developed a rapport.

[drunksunflower]

k ... if i dont feel better next week i might think about it.

thank you

[LMo]

rock on DSF!

[drunksunflower]

i feel better ty LMo SO much.

[SleepsWithButterFlies]

UMMMM DSF....you feel better for how lomg? My guess is not too long..a T is good and PDOCS come in handy for meds...You will not be locked up as you are not a danger to yourself or others and have to be at the TIME they see you .....HUGS

[Perzephone]

{{{{sunflower}}}

Just thought I'd add that Paxil made me sick as a dog. I haven't really had the time or immediate inclination to find another head doctor yet, but I may or may not try another SSRI. I take Elavil, a tricyclic, for insomnia, and after I've been taking it for a few weeks, I do actually feel like I'm in a better mood, but I don't know if that's because I'm getting sleep like I should ( ) or if it's because of the anti-depressant effects.

[drunksunflower]

ty for the replies

im totally not the T type and i don't even know how to go to a pdoc ... i've been taking the paxil i have for about a week and i think it might be working.

but dont relaly wanna do back to doc for more. so i might just try SJW or something this time

[drunksunflower]

Ok i think these things work but then last few days have been %#@&#! *** again (please scuse the expression) and it all just makes me want to give up on them, i know it isnt a magic fix but i was getting usedto being happy again and now its all turned to poo .. i have to go away for work a bit over the next couple of weeks and i dont want be spending half the time bawling.

how many days would i have to wait before trying something like SJW instead? I have read a little about having to get all the drug out of your system before starting herbal remedies etc.

sigh so confused.

[Larry_Hoover]

SJW is part of a potential SSRI withdrawal treatment plan put forth by the learned Dr. Healy. So long as the total dose of the two antidepressants adds to one normal dose, you should be okay. For example, if you dropped to 2/3 of the Paxil dose, it's okay to take 1/3 of the SJW dose. And so on.

Don't go nuts on SJW until you know how your body works with it. Temporary side effects can include headache and stomach upset, but you can take Tylenol or Pepto-Bismol or whatever you would normally do to treat those symptoms. You can also increase the dose beyond the standard 900 mg/day, just as they increase with other antidepressants, if you get a weak response after 3 or 4 weeks. There are no toxic concerns, except increased sensitivity to sunlight. So, wear sunblock.

However, SJW interacts with the same meds that grapefruit do, but in the opposite direction. Rather than blocking enzyme 3A4, SJW induces it. Makes it work faster. That means that oral birth control (hormone) pills will be less effective, and you need back up to prevent pregnancy.

Good luck. I hope you feel better soon.

Lar

[drunksunflower]

ty larry.

ugggghhh TOTALLY forgot about the pregnancy thing. i tried it a few years ago when i wasn't seeing anyone so it wasn't an issue. I am very glad you reminded me.

Would 5htp be another option? or is there anything else i can do?