Boderline and no meds

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sounds ideal for a nutzo like me then

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No Fuzzy -- don't let yourself be a genuia pig! Please!!!

mandy

Well you know, doing your own research is not a bad thing ... I am sure psisci is a bit busy to play dictionary as well as answering everyone's queries?

This thread has had a snitty tone right through it anyway ... just my opinion though :|

Mandyfins....you're ok I love your end of the conversation....I'm with ya all the way....been there done that....for me, the long-term negative effects def. outweighted any positive effects. Um, the only 'positive' effect was the sedating effect, and I don't consider that very positive.... I find long-term supportive therapy most helpful.

Fayerody, I just love your new siggy about acceptance!

For sure, research is an excellent thing, even the bears here are able to use dictionaries

I don't plan to use the drugs discussed any time soon

thank you withit!
I also have personal reasons to question this.

All I've asked for is a kind reply as to some back-up to a claim..... but *sigh* that has not been forthcoming...

mandy

I like your assertive style, and even a little sarcasm perhaps?

shudder the idea indeed that an expert could be wrong

i thought that pscici was our resident drug expert.......maybe i misunderstood his role here.

threads do get snitty when people can't get a question answered cordially.

i have a piece of needlepoint that says "because nice matters".........and it does.

thanks, withit, it's my new gift from a dear poster!!!

I am in the business of making people get better, not just feel better about what they are doing wrong. If you don't like it, don't ask....

and you're on here because you're in the business of making people better.......and how would that be?

it's the internet, dude, and questions are the only way the posters can TRY to communicate with you.........and all these posters did was ask you some questions and you got an attitude..........

can you explain to us what part of "supportive" isn't coming through to you?

With all due respect pat (and you know I respect you a lot) I don't think some of the other comments in this thread have been very fair either.

I am not going to draw examples because I think they are fairly glaringly obvious, plus it wouldn't be compliant with forum guidelines.

Attitude goes both ways it seems.

Because someone is a 'resident expert' doesn't mean they have time to spoonfeed 877464849393 PC posters.

I guess having a full on job, continually studying, AND making time to consult on PC out of goodwill might not seem like much to some people, but hell I'd feel busy.

Maybe doing a little more research then coming back and going hey am I right in interpreting x, y, z could work better sometimes here.

I am not speaking for Dr. S btw, I am just making some observations of my own. And I do not wish to attack anyone here, so please don't take my comments personally.

Feel free to reply with your opinions though ...

Please, if you have further personal comment/complaint to make regarding a member's character or posting style, put it in PM to another in this thread, or PM an admin.

thank you!

KD

Am I the only one who thinks House is something of an idiot ...

Somehow for me, his charms ran out about halfway through the first series :>

Folks, I will reiterate --

Keep ON TOPIC to the original poster's question and subject matter, or start a new thread.

DO NOT use every thread asking for an opinion on meds as an opportunity to once again debate whether medication is appropriate for disorder X, Y or Z.

Thank you,
DocJohn

I have been staying on topic..... the original poster asked if staying off meds was the right thing to do in regards to a personality disorder..... I believe and have read extensively and have a 30+ years experienced psycholgist advise me..... it could be more beneficial for her if she stays off them and tackles things with talk therapy.......

Then the "professional" advisor here has stated that a particular med helps ALL BPD.... so with keeping in mind the original posters question, I asked the advisor for some studies so I too could be informed as well as the original poster..... I received sarcasm and an unprofessional attitude-- replies that are akin to parent-child interaction "Because I said so"...

I just didn't want the original poster being misled as I do care for others and always want the best/safest for anyone.

Still as of this moment, I don't feel reassured that she is not being misled by an advisor... and all those that come to read here and learn...... I know of some former advisors that would help here and I know they would have not ever made such replies and would keep things on a professional level.....

I really was trying to gain knowledge for myself, the poster and anyone reading...

I almost always steer clear of "drama" unless an important message is being mis-represented or misunderstood.

mandy

edited for typo's -- oops!

HI Sherryanne

I think you have to do what you think is best for you. If you feel like meds are not the thing for you at this time and you are doing well without them then trust your judgement.

This is just my opinion, but if your therapist thinks you are doing well without the meds then I would trust their opinion. Your therapist knows more about you and how your coping then a general doctor you see for maybe 15 mins every few months. I hope you have a good enough relationship with your therapist that you can trust their opinion if they believe you need the meds later down the road.

Good Luck and remember your in control of your healing process.

Mandyfins:

The original poster is now extremely confused and feels responsible for creating all this confusion.

Where did it all go wrong?!?!

Hi,

From my experience as a psychiatric nurse, people with Borderline PD, It is paramount that you have regular long term psychotherapy with a trained professional who specializes in this. Many people do require medication, and have underlying affective disorders. For now, it may be a good thing to continue with your medication regime if you feel vunerable and unstable with your moods. Learn all you can about this disorder. It is also paramount for family education and involvement. Family therapy is most important an should be included. Hope this helps you.

Polarbear

Go to

www.scholar.google.com

and search "borderline personality disorder, atypical antipsychotics"

You will get many peer-reviewed academic studies to review and make up you own mind. I hope this helps the OP as I am sure none of the projective arguing with me has...sigh

pscici, i don't think anyone would have even questioned you if your replies were cordial. end of story. maybe life experience hasn't shown you any shades of gray yet.

** bumping this up for those that may have missed it.
** Please notice Doc John's request.

Original poster, you didn't do anything wrong ...sometimes things happen like this. Take what you can and leave the rest,

Hey Sherryanne! Just read the entire thread...WOW!

I, too, am rather interested in what would work best for BPD. Although I respect everyone's individual decision whether or not to take meds, what ones, and in whatever combination (in most cases - some people really do need to take medication!), I wonder why no one has asked you WHY you are being pressured to stop taking meds? And how do you feel about this?

Personally, if the meds help you and the benefits outweigh the risks insofar as health concerns go, then take them. If they have no effect, then don't. I know, sometimes, I don't notice all the benefits and downsides until I have actually stopped the meds. If I feel myself falling, then I may want to restart the same med or something different.

Meds are an integral part of my overall pursuit for some semblance of emotional balance. Therapies have only helped me so much, too. Both together have given me an even greater edge. One has to be comfortable with the use or non-use of meds in their quest for help with their illness(es).

What concerns me is that YOU are not too sure of your emotional state. Is this because you stopped taking this med? Is it because you are being pressured and are feeling uncomfortable with this fact? Are you afraid?

Most times, there is a period of adjustment when going off meds, even dealing with the fear of "going solo" and relying entirely on your own knowledge and experience (afterall, being a borderline includes being codependent, even if it is to psych drugs) which may be a bit of a setback for you for a time.

Trust yourself! And make decisions for yourself! Family seems to be pressuring you; professionals will advise you according to their field of expertise, like Doc here (which I appreciate, snooty or otherwise ), but ultimately, it comes down to HOW YOU FEEL!!!

You have only been off all meds for about a month, right? Are you really feeling ok? Go by that and nothing else! Don't be afraid to try to go off meds (no one wants to have to be on meds forever) especially if you, yourself have made good strides in learning to live with your illness.

I gotta ask again, though, why the pressure?

Altered State