[sewerrats]

SHRINK,s are just pill dispencer,s who no nothing of how you mind work.s only from a book. Theropist no even less than a shrink. They are hippy rejects or friendless people . In theropy you lay out your guts to a stranger, who is more screwed than you. Very rare you can combat mental illness with theropy, unless you have it for life. Soon has 1 problem leaves your damaged brain its replaced by another, so no win situation.Face each one head on yourself works better, an is a lot cheaper.

This is the kind of distorted thinking one might address - in therapy.

[venusss]

Originally Posted by just_some_girl

This is the kind of distorted thinking one might address - in therapy.

are you really sure this is a supportive comment? Really? Are you sure?

Is really therapy the only way to adress problems?

I gotten some of this crap when I asked about if it is possible to help self. Apparently, since I cannot love person I pay, I cannot love at all.... among other things.

Yet, you have to be in therapy for not lovin' therapists.

Look, truth is, many pdocs are dignified drug dealers (the kind parents are proud of) and many therapists are really people who have so many issues of their own it would fill in national geographic.

That said... I think therapy can work. If you don't make it about lurving your T. Life couching style can work. But then again, often one burns so much money on it, they could as well go to India (and India is as good as any therapy).


It comes down to a person. Mind alterning substances can work, be it Prozac or magica mushrooms. If you take them for right reason and don't expect for them to save you. Professionals can show you perspective and all... but in the end it's up to you. You heal yourself in the end.

[2or3things]

Originally Posted by VenusHalley

are you really sure this is a supportive comment? Really? Are you sure?

I don't know. I think there's a world of difference between pointing out that someone who says "All pdocs are X" or "All T's are Y" might have some distorted thinking going on and saying "Therapy is the only hope." The fact is that therapy can be a good place to work on distorted thinking. No one's saying that other places or methods won't work.

I don't think that any of us knows more than our own experience and (possibly slanted, usually limited) research indicates. I've seen 3 Ts in my life. I really don't feel qualified to comment on all Ts because of it. I highly doubt that even someone who's seen 20 or 50 or 100 is qualified, either. (Certainly there are more than 100 therapists in my city alone.)

I do feel like I'm qualified to say that my therapy is working for me, even though sometimes much of our time is spent working out our relationship, even potential love feelings/wishes. Those wishes come from somewhere, right? If they're there and they're an obstacle or a benefit or whatever, they can be useful.

Different strokes for different folks, no?

[Trippin2.0]

Generalizing doesn't mean you need therapy. ALOT of people do it in lots of different scenarios. While I'm not saying it's ok (cos some people get offended quite easily) I am saying that it doesn't automatically mean their thinking is distorted and they need therapy. # just saying
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To the OP, I love your last sentence, it's a sentiment I share.

[sewerrats]

The thing is all you do is shift your problems onto a theropist in therory, then they hold the key to your brain. Its like addiction from then on an they hold the key , you need a fix from your theropist to survive could be for years .You carnt walk away from your addiction or you will crash and burn, You could end up paying the morgage for them on there house in theropy sessions, Depression is complex an only you can beat it into remission ie with time or meds to help mask it or to give you time to heal,

[Trippin2.0]

If it's any consolation, just a few days ago, I learned from members here that the 'addiction' phase passes eventually...

[sewerrats]

Originally Posted by Trippin2.0

If it's any consolation, just a few days ago, I learned from members here that the 'addiction' phase passes eventually...

Thats when your theropist dies before you.

[Trippin2.0]

Originally Posted by sewerrats

Thats when your theropist dies before you.

Hahahaha! Good 1!!!

[2or3things]

Originally Posted by Trippin2.0

Generalizing doesn't mean you need therapy.

True enough, but OP was explicitly addressing how to combat mental illness, and saying that therapy and pharmaceuticals rarely, maybe never, work to do so. I'm just saying that I doubt many (any) of us are qualified to make that generalization with any teeth to it. And I think that many would disagree with OP's assertion, especially given the forum's focus.

But absolutely, if someone wants to say "all shrinks are x" and doesn't see a problem with that point of view, why would they want to or need to seek help from a therapist? On the other hand, if that kind of attitude prevents someone from seeking out a source of help that could be beneficial, that seems less of a good idea. But as always, it's up to the person in question to decide.

As I said before, different strokes...

[sewerrats]

Originally Posted by 2or3things

True enough, but OP was explicitly addressing how to combat mental illness, and saying that therapy and pharmaceuticals rarely, maybe never, work to do so. I'm just saying that I doubt many (any) of us are qualified to make that generalization with any teeth to it. And I think that many would disagree with OP's assertion, especially given the forum's focus.

But absolutely, if someone wants to say "all shrinks are x" and doesn't see a problem with that point of view, why would they want to or need to seek help from a therapist? On the other hand, if that kind of attitude prevents someone from seeking out a source of help that could be beneficial, that seems less of a good idea. But as always, it's up to the person in question to decide.

As I said before, different strokes...

Ocourse i have had bad shrinks or i wouldent post the thread, you can go see a shrink as many times as you like , you never get any real answer,s . This is how it goes// try this med ssri , 6 weeks later try this snri usually effexor the suicide king of meds, so lets say zoloft is comeing out your system an meets effexor comming in. BBBBBBBOOOOOOOOMMMMMMM your twice has bad as before you went to see him . Go to your gp an pick a med yourself , at least he remember,s your name.