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Old Aug 17, 2012, 07:08 AM
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AWhhh, thank you for making me feel important and that my life does matter since I joined here. You are absolutley right, life is short and we all deserve to be happy. I wonder why my mum doesn't realise what she is doing? And why she chooses to be miserable all the time.
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Old Aug 17, 2012, 08:09 AM
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So its only my second appt with her so we are still sussing each other out. She asked how I was after last week, I smiled and said ok, she said no really, how were you after? I told her not so good. She asked did I reflect on what we discussed, I said "yes".
So then we got down to business, She asked how I felt about hiding my sexuality from my parents, I said "fine, its really none of their business!"
She then pried further and asked how I got on with them....not this is a very tricky subject for me as I have a complicated relationship with them. There is no llove pr hugs or communication in my house especially when I was growing up. T was v surprised, I told her about how my mam was with me( she basically ignores everything I say, provokes me, she is emotionally unavailable and sometimes pysically hurts me) I never told anyone all of this... T told me to look her in the eye, she said Button, did you discuss this with your last T? I said we skimmed over the no commmunication and no love part. T shook her head, she said Button this is very serious, your mam is very sick lady, its not normal to treat her children like this, she needs help. Please consider moving out and getting away from her abuse. I was like What.. abuse, thats just my mam, she has always been like tht, T looked at me with her big blue eyes and said, this is not a healthy place for you, you have done nothing wrong, you are so used to the abuse you don't see it anymore...I am worried for your safety.
Anyway we discussed this for most of the session, I was always wondering what was wrong with my mother but never mentioned it to anyone, she needs help. T told me that she is a mother and would never even dream of speaking or treating her daughter like that.
I am very upset, I am used to her behaviour and its not that bad, I think T was over reacting a bit, she said I should confront my mother about her behaviour. I said no way as I was scared how she would react, she said if your mam hits you or is violent ring 911...I feel really confused about all of this as I don't think its abuse.
Although I personally might think it's a little early in the relationship to 'go there,' I think your therapist is really and truly telling you what is true. Abuse does not have to be somebody getting bloodied with a stick and sent to the ER. Abuse doesn't have to be getting hit at all. And it is also very, very hard for someone who has grown up in a situation like that to recognize abuse as abuse, because it's all they've ever known, and since they aren't physically injured to the point they're in the ER, they think it is not abuse.

Did you know that emotional neglect is considered abuse? Children need more than just food, clothes and shelter to grow into healthy adults.

I know it might be hard to hear, and you certainly don't have to act on your therapist's suggestion right away, but just let it sit, and keep discussing it. She might see how you're negatively affected, and is rightly concerned about how much progress you'll be able to make if you're in an environment where the work she does with you is taken apart by your mother between sessions.

Take good care..

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Old Aug 17, 2012, 10:30 AM
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button, I am in agreement with those who said 1) yes, it's abuse. 2) you need to get away. 3) Confronting your mother is maybe a bad idea until you get out or have a place to go.

I confronted my mother in high school. I had a teacher who guessed what was happening to me at home. She asked me if my parents hit. I lied and said that they used to. She said if they ever started again, I could come to live with her and she'd made sure I got to college because she figured that was what was holding me in place, the fear that I could not go to college if I ran away. I told her I was also staying to protect my little sister. The teacher promised she would take my sister also. So, the next time my mother went to hit me, I stood up straight and said, "No. You can't hit me anymore. I have someplace to go. I will take my little sister and leave and you won't see either of us again." She screamed and raged and threw things, but she never hit me again.

Confronting when you're still trapped and helpless is too dangerous.
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Old Aug 17, 2012, 10:48 AM
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My kids are cool, I'm so jealous. Sometimes I fantasize about what my life would be like if one of the adults in my life had noticed and got me out of there.
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It was at the end of my junior year in high school. So, it gave me a about a year of living there without physical abuse. Even that was a welcome respite.
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Old Aug 18, 2012, 08:01 PM
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Although I personally might think it's a little early in the relationship to 'go there,' I think your therapist is really and truly telling you what is true. Abuse does not have to be somebody getting bloodied with a stick and sent to the ER. Abuse doesn't have to be getting hit at all. And it is also very, very hard for someone who has grown up in a situation like that to recognize abuse as abuse, because it's all they've ever known, and since they aren't physically injured to the point they're in the ER, they think it is not abuse.

Did you know that emotional neglect is considered abuse? Children need more than just food, clothes and shelter to grow into healthy adults.

I know it might be hard to hear, and you certainly don't have to act on your therapist's suggestion right away, but just let it sit, and keep discussing it. She might see how you're negatively affected, and is rightly concerned about how much progress you'll be able to make if you're in an environment where the work she does with you is taken apart by your mother between sessions.

Take good care..

I didn't know emotional neglet is considered abuse... Thank you Cresent Moon for your insights. I do think it was too early for her to go there. You need to biuld up trust and start a relationship with a T before you get into the nitty gritty stuff. See we will only have six sessions together so maybe she is trying to fit as much in as possible. She suggested I write my mother a letter but not send it and we can go through it next week. In the letter I am to write everything I want to say to her but can't.
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Old Aug 18, 2012, 08:05 PM
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button, I am in agreement with those who said 1) yes, it's abuse. 2) you need to get away. 3) Confronting your mother is maybe a bad idea until you get out or have a place to go.

I confronted my mother in high school. I had a teacher who guessed what was happening to me at home. She asked me if my parents hit. I lied and said that they used to. She said if they ever started again, I could come to live with her and she'd made sure I got to college because she figured that was what was holding me in place, the fear that I could not go to college if I ran away. I told her I was also staying to protect my little sister. The teacher promised she would take my sister also. So, the next time my mother went to hit me, I stood up straight and said, "No. You can't hit me anymore. I have someplace to go. I will take my little sister and leave and you won't see either of us again." She screamed and raged and threw things, but she never hit me again.

Confronting when you're still trapped and helpless is too dangerous.
(((Hugs))) that must have been an awful time for you Mykidsare cool. T said much the same that once you confront her and actually tell her she is abusing me and I won't tolerate it anymore her atttitude will change. You had a lot of courage to stand up to your mother back then. I admire you.
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Old Aug 18, 2012, 08:07 PM
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My kids are cool, I'm so jealous. Sometimes I fantasize about what my life would be like if one of the adults in my life had noticed and got me out of there.
((((HUGS)))) I think sometimes people turn a blind eye about all of this, they know but don't want to know or are simply scared and its sad.
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Old Aug 19, 2012, 11:40 AM
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we only have six sessions together and I don't want to spend them talking about my mother...
But she is the source of your problem.

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I wonder why my mum doesn't realise what she is doing? And why she chooses to be miserable all the time.
She must be blinded by her problems/issues.

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She suggested I write my mother a letter but not send it and we can go through it next week. In the letter I am to write everything I want to say to her but can't.
This sounds like a good idea.

Maybe after a few sessions you will be able to stand up to your mother. It is your inner child that is frightened by her?
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Old Aug 19, 2012, 03:01 PM
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I think all of me is frightened of her, the inner child and the adult. I just want to run away from her and the more I isolate myself from her the more she rings and needs me and I can't be near her right now.
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Old Aug 19, 2012, 03:39 PM
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Hi button30 - reading your initial post I was like "whoa T, I've only just got here, that's all a bit full on, let me catch my breath!". But nevertheless sounds like you have had some useful advice to chew on.

I am sorry you are going through this with your mother - it can be really confusing when it is a parent who is abusive to you.

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Old Aug 19, 2012, 03:53 PM
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Hi button30 - reading your initial post I was like "whoa T, I've only just got here, that's all a bit full on, let me catch my breath!". But nevertheless sounds like you have had some useful advice to chew on.

I am sorry you are going through this with your mother - it can be really confusing when it is a parent who is abusive to you.

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T is obviously in some sort of race with me and I can't keep up. I get the feeling that maybe her and my old T have talked as new t Is old T's supervisor. She asks about what we discussed in with my old T and I get the feeling she knows more then I tell her, maybe I am being paranoid but it all seems to be moving too fast right now.
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Old Aug 19, 2012, 06:55 PM
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You said that you only have 6 sessions? This would hurry it a bit? Can you get more sessions?
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T is obviously in some sort of race with me and I can't keep up. I get the feeling that maybe her and my old T have talked as new t Is old T's supervisor. She asks about what we discussed in with my old T and I get the feeling she knows more then I tell her, maybe I am being paranoid but it all seems to be moving too fast right now.
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Ask your T directly what she knew about you before she saw you. Also, you can tell her that you have heard her about your mother and you are continuing to process it, but that you feel that things are moving too fast. Tell your T that you are the one that needs to be in control of this process because you are the one who has to change if you choose to do so.

Take care of yourself! Thinking about ya'!
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Old Aug 20, 2012, 03:24 AM
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I only have six sessions cos my insurance is paying but maybe I could go for more myself!I like this t, If is straight to the point, no nonsense approach! I don't think I could ask her what's she knows about me just yet! I am not that brave
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Old Aug 20, 2012, 12:04 PM
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I think it is possible to call something abuse, to acknowledge that it was abusive, without necessarily condemning the abuser to total damnation, in your mind. Sometimes people who abuse do not know they are being abusive, or if they know it partly, are pretty much out of control. But for you, it is abuse anyway. Maybe you do not have to hate someone to stand up for yourself.
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Old Aug 20, 2012, 03:20 PM
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I think it is possible to call something abuse, to acknowledge that it was abusive, without necessarily condemning the abuser to total damnation, in your mind. Sometimes people who abuse do not know they are being abusive, or if they know it partly, are pretty much out of control. But for you, it is abuse anyway. Maybe you do not have to hate someone to stand up for yourself.
Maybe just for me to acknowledge the abuse might just help me, I really do think she knows she is being abusive..I mean hitting someone to see how they react is provoking and being abusive, so either she is stupid or just turning a blind eye.
I don't agree with condemning the abuser because if she has any conscience it will be enough that she will feel a little guilty about all she has done to me and my siblings.
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