[healed84]

****Trigger warning for talk of SUI*****



Just so you know.. I am safe right now.

T knows that my thoughts of suicide have been bit more prevelant in the last couple of weeks. In the past we have done contracts that I wouldn't do anything in between sessions. Now.. it is more than just thinking about it.

I do have a plan, but no plan to do anthing immediate. I want to talk to T about these, but everthing I find when I google this stuff says admitting to me t that I have plan means he would probably suggest I head to the ER.. I do admit that after failed attempts at reaching out (with no T response) I thought about going myself. I just don't want to be forced into it or anything. So, does a plan really make it more serious???

Again.. I am safe.

I always have a plan. I don't think that means I need to be in the hospital right now.

If you're safe, then I don't see a need to be hospitalized.

But I do think you should talk to your T about this.

[Nightlight]

I think above all else you need to help yourself by being honest. If you're making plans then some seriously negative thinking is taking over (and I do know exactly what it feel like when that option begins to feel like it's...truly an option). I think you need to be as honest as you can be about having plans, but not currently intending to do anything. I'm sorry you're stuck in that place right now. It's so so rough. I wish I could make things a little better for you or ease the pain just a little. Thinking about things is one thing, but you need to let yourself be helped if you're planning something. You need to let someone step in and help, because if things are already this bad, you need the help before you're planning to do something immediately. You can't leave this until afterward. Look after yourself healed.

When I first started therapy, I had a very definite plan. My t said that as long as I have no immediate intent to do anything, he would not insist I go to the hospital. Regardless, I think you need to be honest with your t. Keeping yourself safe is really the most important thing. Think of your children. They NEED you alive and well.

[Victoria'smom]

I would preface it with "I want to be honest, I'm safe and plan to stay that way but I do have a plan." My T knows I have several plans but I try to dismember the plans later.

(((((HEALED)))))

I have voluntarily went to the ER and non voluntarily. I suggest voluntarily, It was very helpful for me to "take a break" and regroup.

Healed, as soon as you btell your t you have a plan it becomes serious. I have told my t before and then she had to contact mt doctor and set up an appt for my own nsafety and then the doctor asked me did I need to go to the er.
I am sorry you are in such a low place right now but maybe by discussing your plan with someone safe like t it will put things into perspective for you and give you
some clarity and focus. I hope you can find some peace soon

button, I think it depends on where you. Seriously, I told my T I had a plan, and he just checked to be sure that it was not something I planned to do immediately. There was no hospital and no calls to my doctor. I was not completely honest about how detailed the plan was, but when I told him later how specific the plan was, he said even if I had told him how very specific the plan was, he would still not have hospitalized me. He would, however, have kept in closer contact and asked me to come in more often.

[doyoutrustme]

Having a plan does not always equal hospitalization. I think s/he would try to create a safety plan first. I don't think they are so hasty about hospitalization. Just be honest and trust that T will make the right decision, even if there is an off chance it comes to that.

Originally Posted by My kids are cool

button, I think it depends on where you. Seriously, I told my T I had a plan, and he just checked to be sure that it was not something I planned to do immediately. There was no hospital and no calls to my doctor. I was not completely honest about how detailed the plan was, but when I told him later how specific the plan was, he said even if I had told him how very specific the plan was, he would still not have hospitalized me. He would, however, have kept in closer contact and asked me to come in more often.

Yes it must depend on where in the world you live MKAC.
I have told two ts and they both followed the same protocal; calling my doctor. Like you said, it would depend on your plan and how serious it was. I was going to follow my plan that weekend so I think my t was worried that I would follow through and I was planning to but as I talked to her about it my mind was changed which is why I strongly reccomend anyone thinking about it to talk to their t.

Yeah, I think if I told him I had a plan AND I was going to go through with the plan that weekend, he would have done more. Mine was, I have a plan, and am not going to do anything anytime soon because I know it will be bad for my kids. However, I'm getting to the point where it feels like it is inevitable that I will go through the plan someday, just because I'm so depressed and so tired and might lose control.

I think it depends on the client, the clients history and how desperate the T perceives the client . Having a plan does mean you are contemplating it, however it does not mean you are actually ever going to act on said plan. At the end of the day, you and only you are the one who knows if you are truly a danger to yourself. So if you can't trust yourself to protect you then its important to trust someone else with that information, so they can help.

[murray]

My T and I have discussed it and I have admitted that I have a plan but assured him that for right now I will not act on it. We discussed the hospital and contacting others and I promised him that I was not a danger to myself right now and as we have a good rapport I think he can tell that I am okay. That being said, we are in more contact lately and I am sure he is being quite observant.
I would definitely talk to T.

[anilam]

Depends on a T and how much he knows you- having a plan is generally recognised as a warning sign, however, I have my perfect plan since I was in my late teens- so for around 10 years now. My T knows this (told him after 3-4 years of therapy, no details, just that I don't need to plan SUI anymore) and understands that it doesn't mean that I am unsafe (it actually keeps me more safe and sane and gives me the strength to go on- like I'm OK cause I have my plan, if anything goes wrong I can use it so why not try this? There's nothing to be afraid of... - it's not for everybody but it works for me).
Anyway, if you just came up with this plan it might be a different case- you're saying you're safe (really happy to hear that). Definitely start with that and then if you feel the need to share the plan with your T just go on. SUI thoughts need to be talk about- the sooner the better.