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Old Mar 13, 2013, 10:35 AM
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I am just calling them like I see them, Rainbow. I think the next step in your healing might be to respond differently to the inevitable same kinds of posts. I'd like to see you move towards accepting that some people will always have the same negative response to you and that while you can acknowledge that everyone has a right to think and post what they want, you don't have to engage with them. Or, rather, that it's not productive for you to engage with them. Let it go, and let go of the desire to change them or get them to see what you believe. You can still hold on to your truth no matter what anyone else says, as it belongs to you, and it doesn't change no matter what someone posts in response to your experiences.
Yes! I need to do what you say. My DBT skills flew out the window! I'm too vulnerable. I get triggered too easily and I get defensive when I'm criticized. It's hard because of course there IS some truth in those posts. Thank you again, Anne.
I think on trauma-- that many of the good trauma people that I have known, and much of the professional literature, sees borderline behavior and BPD as primarily a response to unresolved trauma. The good news there is that resolving the trauma, acknowledging it happened, dealing with its effects, offers real promise for healing. I see you on the cusp of that. I am sorry that you had to grow up with these experiences, but I think by putting them out there in the open (including here), you are on your way to a better place. Keep moving
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Old Mar 13, 2013, 11:45 AM
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Tsk tsk... If you dont want to support the OP or offer another point of view without venom then you need say nothing at all. IMO.
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Old Mar 13, 2013, 11:52 AM
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I'd like to point out something my t told me, and that I have personally observed with myself. When a person appears to have an over-reaction to something (compared to how they usually behave), most likely they are responding to something in their own life, rather than what they say they are reacting to.

In other words, people who get very fired up about Rainbow's posts most likely have something in their own life history that is being triggered by what Rainbow says. For example, something about Rainbow reminds them of a person who hurt them in times past. . .or a situation Rainbow brings up is similar to a situation they have been in that was emotionally charged. . .etc.

For this reason, anyone who finds themselves being overly triggered by Rainbow's posts (or anyone else's posts for that matter) would do well to ask themselves:

"What does Rainbow's thread remind me of my own life that is or was very painful?"

If you can answer that question, THAT ISSUE is what is driving your emotional reaction, not the person posting the thread. THAT is a still unresolved issue for you that you need to work out for yourself.
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Old Mar 13, 2013, 12:15 PM
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Not engaging with a member who is after you works pretty well. Blocking the member so that you don't read their posts works.
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Old Mar 13, 2013, 12:25 PM
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Itsnīt it just basic transference/countertransference online?

So the onces who offer a different perspective should stir away? How about people who offer support and should see why they feel the need to do that too? Do to their own issues?

The OP even said, there was some truth in was written. So perhaps something good will come out of it? Like usefull feedback to reflect on?..= Support more long term?

We all have a choice to block people, if we are offended by their responses. But I "get" the whole " I canīt help it" ..So I am going to unblock, forget my DBT Skills,have a tantrum and have people splitting up in threads.. same reaction, pattern and quite a bit of second gain from it week after week.

So basically the once who get strong reactions do to their own stuff, should not be posting? Good or bad, but work on it in T? That would probably mean no responses.. which would create another "tantrum" Difficult stuff..sigh..
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Old Mar 13, 2013, 12:33 PM
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It is possible to challenge, offer different perspectives, and support one another without judgment or criticism.

I hope today is okay for you, Rainbow.
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Old Mar 13, 2013, 12:40 PM
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Maybe I didn't make my point clear. No, I didn't mean to suggest that if a person has a strong reaction to a thread that they should not post.

I'm just saying that if they notice in themselves that they seem to be overly reactive to a thread, it would be a really good idea to look at themselves to see if their strong emotional reaction is based on something in their own past that is unresovled and needs some attention.

That's all I meant.

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Old Mar 13, 2013, 12:51 PM
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Maybe I didn't make my point clear. No, I didn't mean to suggest that if a person has a strong reaction to a thread that they should not post.

I'm just saying that if they notice in themselves that they seem to be overly reactive to a thread, it would be a really good idea to look at themselves to see if their strong emotional reaction is based on something in their own past that is unresovled and needs some attention.

That's all I meant.

Got it Sorry for not being more specific. Just needed to put a really strong possitive/ supportive reaction out there too. Since we only seem to be debating the negative postings..wonder if that made sence. Itīs all about support. Negative is obviously not good ( what is viewed negatively), but what about the Shouldnīt we reflect on that to? Since these threads do seem to split members apart? Or maybe we just react to eachothers postings and not the OP
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Old Mar 13, 2013, 01:02 PM
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Hi Liitleme,

Yes, you make a really good point!
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Old Mar 13, 2013, 01:39 PM
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I just think we can post things maybe the poster can think about, but does NOT have to be said so critical or judgemental. All ot does is put people on the defensive and isnt helpful
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Old Mar 13, 2013, 01:59 PM
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I'm glad your session went so well for you, and that you were able to bring up some difficult things. I'm also glad that your T was able to own her stuff and apologize for bringing her issues in to things.

Also - I've been thinking about the whole "just a job" or how t's are "paid to care" for a while, and here's what I think...maybe it'll help you out too. Yes, a T's job is to help their clients, and yes, they get paid for it. They do not get paid to care, though. They could do their job without becoming attached to a client or really caring about them. When a T does or says things that indicate caring to you, then I choose to believe that is genuine. Just as in any other job, you can do the work without really caring about it. Caring is something that develops separately and is in addition to the job.
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Old Mar 13, 2013, 03:01 PM
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I agree, Rhiannon. T and I were talking about that on Monday. When he tells me he cares and that I'm not just a job to him, I believe him. He could be totally detached and still be effective, but he's not detached. He genuinely wants the best for me.
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Old Mar 13, 2013, 03:54 PM
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I sort of see caring like I am with students in conferences or appointments. I care about my students in a sort of detached way. When they are in my office, they are my focus for the amount of time they are there. I do not answer the phone, or check texts or whatever - for that period of time - they are my focus and I do care that they are okay, getting enough sleep, can learn the material, are having a useful experience, I want them to do well and succeed and have decent lives and so forth. Some I do like better than others, but they all get my focus and attention individually. And then the student leaves and I go on to the next student or task. I have boundaries and do not become friends with them. I do not go to their weddings, or baby showers or golf tournaments. I care, but not like I do about my lover, my dad, my friends and so forth. They come and go, as it should be. I am more unique to them than they are to me - like I think therapists are with clients. It does not mean not care, just it is not the care of friends, family and lovers.
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Old Mar 13, 2013, 04:23 PM
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I sort of see caring like I am with students in conferences or appointments. I care about my students in a sort of detached way. When they are in my office, they are my focus for the amount of time they are there. I do not answer the phone, or check texts or whatever - for that period of time - they are my focus and I do care that they are okay, getting enough sleep, can learn the material, are having a useful experience, I want them to do well and succeed and have decent lives and so forth. Some I do like better than others, but they all get my focus and attention individually. And then the student leaves and I go on to the next student or task. I have boundaries and do not become friends with them. I do not go to their weddings, or baby showers or golf tournaments. I care, but not like I do about my lover, my dad, my friends and so forth. They come and go, as it should be. I am more unique to them than they are to me - like I think therapists are with clients. It does not mean not care, just it is not the care of friends, family and lovers.
Yeah I agree. I think a good T does care about her/his clients (like all ppl in helping professions do- otherwise it's called a burnout) but it's different. The analogy with a good teacher is fitting.
And while I don't understand the need of some ppl to be special for their T (i.e. mean more than other clients, be their friends/lovers ect.) it's pretty common from what I've seen here.
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