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My dearest wish is to beome a Vulcan
That would indeed be a positive thing.

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Old Jan 24, 2015, 02:53 PM
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My dearest wish is to beome a Vulcan

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Old Jan 24, 2015, 02:53 PM
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My dearest wish is to beome a Vulcan
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mute_(The_Twilight_Zone)

Theres a twilight zone episode where a group of psych types are training one of their children to be telepathic and unemotional. Stuff happens and she gets adopted by a "normal" family who teach her to talk and emote. More stuff happens and there is a tug-of-war between the group and the adoptive mother. The adoptive mother wins.

When i saw this show when i was a kid, i remember thinking, what a horrible loss to science!! What, just so this woman could replace her infertility with this girl or whatever?? T and i were talking about this last week, and we were like - wait a minute - in the twilight zone, wouldnt the psych group have won, not the family?? What exactly is the weird way here? But yeah, he disappointed all us geeks!
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 02:58 PM
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I am a giant bubbling cauldron of emotion. I don't even know how it would be possible for me to be more overly emotional than I already am.
So I have absolutely no idea what the therapists are yammering on at.
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:01 PM
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But are you overtly emotional? I don't think our inner emotional life is necessarily obvious, even to somebody who is looking closely at us.
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:02 PM
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:03 PM
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I am a giant bubbling cauldron of emotion. I don't even know how it would be possible for me to be more overly emotional than I already am.
So I have absolutely no idea what the therapists are yammering on at.
Maybe like bpa says, you could do an interpretive dance for them? Not just with fingers
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:04 PM
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I think "feelers" cry more easily than "thinkers"...I think it has a lot to do with personality. I happen to be a thinker, so I don't cry very often at all.
I'm a "feeler" and yes, I cry very easily. I'm learning to get it under control in certain situations like at work (abusive callers have made me cry more times that I like to admit) but with t, I've always been able to cry. I cry over sad movies, happy movies, when reading really touchingly beautiful things out loud, hell I can't even read "The Giving Tree" (Shel Silverstein) without bawling. I've cried reading posts here sometimes. So I agree that "feelers" cry more easily than "thinkers".
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:05 PM
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Dearest one! my long term hope is that we (the royal we) find someone (besides dear t) with whom we can talk about the things that bring people to tears.
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My dearest wish is to become a Vulcan
This may be my all time favorite conversation!

Hankster that was sweet. You know that is my wish for myself...but not just finding someone but getting to a place where I could actually let my guard down enough to do that with anyone...even a T.

SD... I think it might be easier for me to become a Vulcan than what Hankster described!

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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:11 PM
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So how obnoxious is it to correct somebody who uses the completely wrong term for something non-therapy related in a different thread? (Similar to saying that Ireland is in the UK, or that spinach is a kind of meat.) It's pretty obnoxious, right?
Like the correct spelling of "oy vey" is "oh Weh", meaning literally "oh woe", or as we say in English, "Good grief"?
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:11 PM
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Maybe like bpa says, you could do an interpretive dance for them? Not just with fingers
Perhaps using finger puppets.
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:12 PM
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I am a giant bubbling cauldron of emotion. I don't even know how it would be possible for me to be more overly emotional than I already am.
So I have absolutely no idea what the therapists are yammering on at.
Just throwing out a thought.... Maybe it's not that you don't have emotions but that you don't have an outlet for them.... When I have no outlet for emotions that are bubbling up... I get overly anxious get muscle tension especially neck..migraines...etc. all the emotions cause physical symptoms for me...

Crying would help release that but I don't do that very often... Kick boxing...punching pillows...screaming into pillows....sometimes helps...

Although it may not be anything like your situation
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:13 PM
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Or finger paintings. Get in touch with your inner child.

I don't have an inner child. My father says I was born at the age of 30. His generation of 30 which means settled down and all adultlike. I've always been very adultlike.
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:16 PM
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Like the correct spelling of "oy vey" is "oh Weh", meaning literally "oh woe", or as we say in English, "Good grief"?
Precisely. That would be rude. Don't do it.
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:17 PM
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Like the correct spelling of "oy vey" is "oh Weh", meaning literally "oh woe", or as we say in English, "Good grief".
No, an actual factual error, like claiming the wrong original language for a text. But it doesn't matter since it was a throwaway comment in a post about another subject. I don't want to come across as a jerk.
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:18 PM
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Dearest one! my long term hope is that we (the royal we) find someone (besides dear t) with whom we can talk about the things that bring people to tears.
I am a thinker. BUT...

I think I have started to do this. I used to not cry in front of H. I have started to find myself reacting in a more authentic way. I think it is mostly a matter of feeling entitled to my feelings, to the point where his reaction would not affect my opinion or belief in myself. Even if he were to say "that is THE dumbest reason to cry", I would be able to defend my right to my true feelings.

But the only reaction I have gotten thus far is surprise. And some support, but not necessarily in the form in which I had hoped for it. But that is the therapy lesson of clearly stating what I want. So many changes!
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:20 PM
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Perhaps using finger puppets.
You could design a whole line of "therapy finger puppets" and go on Shark Tank!
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:20 PM
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My preferred outcry is "Oh for crying out loud!" sometimes abbreviated FCOL online where at least four people will be confused because it's regional in the US.
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:21 PM
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Oh god, crying in front of H would be the end of me.
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:22 PM
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Just throwing out a thought.... Maybe it's not that you don't have emotions but that you don't have an outlet for them.... When I have no outlet for emotions that are bubbling up... I get overly anxious get muscle tension especially neck..migraines...etc. all the emotions cause physical symptoms for me...

Crying would help release that but I don't do that very often... Kick boxing...punching pillows...screaming into pillows....sometimes helps...

Although it may not be anything like your situation
Thanks but it is not the problem for this - outlets galore over here. I agree that exercise is quite useful for me.
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:22 PM
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My T commented that the handful of times I've cried in therapy, I seem very uncomfortable doing it.
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:23 PM
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Oh god, crying in front of H would be the end of me.
I'm sorry to hear that. Would it feel helpful to talk about why?
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:23 PM
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I admit I'm jealous of people who find exercise useful.

Also, I am less sober than I ought to be.
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:26 PM
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Or finger paintings. Get in touch with your inner child.
Ack. Not the point for me at all.

Plus the idea of paint on my fingers creeps me out.
I always hated things where my hands got trapped in goo - even as a child. If they made us paint (I despised art class) then the least they could do is provide proper implements for the odious task.
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Old Jan 24, 2015, 03:27 PM
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I have found that strenuous exercise helps me with anger and sadness. Relaxing "exercise" like restorative yoga or strolling down a pretty street or through a park also helps, particularly with anxiety.
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