Couch 105-The couch with no issues.

It's time for my daily I don't understand the appeal of... post!

I never got Heathcliff's attractions. Or Mr. Rochester's. Or Mr. Darcy's.

Although if I had to choose one of the three it would probably be Heathcliff.

I think this is a topic that gets repeated on the couch often - we have Bronte Fans and Austin fans.
I am decidedly an Austin fan. I found the Brontes boring.

I like neither very much. Charlotte Bronte's other novels are so uninteresting and uninspired that I can't imagine the same person produced Jane Eyre.

I suppose Austen is bearable if you read her as satire.

I would read George Eliot in preference to any of them.

I am a huge Austin and Anthony Trollope fan. They are clever. I have never cared about the characters so much as I just think their sentences are clever.
Lukewarm on Eliot.
Jane Eyre made me want to club her

I love Jane Eyre. Adored Villette.

Austen makes me want to snooze. Although Pride and Prejudice was infinitely improved by the addition of zombies.

The plots are not great especially - although I do enjoy novels of manners. It is mainly for the witty sentences that I read them.
The brontes were neither interesting plots nor witty = fail.

Where do you fall on the Gilmore Girls?
Pro or Con?

Witty isn't a word I've ever associated with Austen. But as it is, enjoyment of literature is a subjective thing LOL.

I don't often express my displeasure of Austen. I have many friends who find her writing pleasant.

I liked Trollope, and then I read his autobiography. It was all about money, how much he had, how much he spent, how much he made. Not a clever line in the whole thing. After that Barsetshire just wasn't the same. I kept thinking, "now how much did he get in royalties for this one?"

I adore Thomas Hardy though.

I did watch the show for a few seasons, and then Lauren Graham's character got too annoying. And it became clear Rory couldn't act.

Edward Hermann is marvelous though. And so was his wife.

Did The Autobiography of Alice B. Toklas put you off of Stein?

I was never ON Stein! Also, I'm not sure I've read that - it did not create an impression if I did.

I'm not crazy about most of the Paris expatriates.

I thoroughly enjoyed Gilmore Girls until about the end of S.5.

I will be tuning into the Netflix reunion.

I dont know why villette wasnt more popular. It was the most relevant, imo. Like the original codependent novel.

@@'s relation to Stein was strictly an allusion!

I haven't read Austen in a really long time. May again after I re-read Wuthering Heights and some essays by Jungian folks regarding the characters for my t homework.

butbutbutbut does anybody recognize this description, there's a book I remember reading when I was in college and I can't remember the author or the name but it was about a woman who dressed as a man in order to be with another woman.... something like that...? it was from like the late 1800's or something I think if I remember right. I want to read it again but can't remember who wrote it or the title...

I know there is a website where you can type in plot lines characters etc to find the book but I can't remember it. I bet its something that Mast would know
Just googled what book is that and came up with a few sites but not the one I want. Sorry Art.

well when i got home i sent a too-long email to t, because i did some good thinking while waiting for my 2nd appt of the day earlier, and wanted to explain it to her because i explain myself so much better in writing than trying to talk and i don't want to wait 2 weeks. meh. this may push her over the edge and make her tell me 'no more emails'. although i don't send her that many anymore, not like i used to.

ETA: she just responded and said "Wow! Nice work."

Was it The well of loneliness or the unlit lamp by radclyffe hall? But those were early 20th century.

There was the Bostonians by Henry James

Miss Brown by Vernon Lee (Violet Paget)

Diana Victrix by Florence Converse

I don't know but I would guess if it's nineteenth-century it's by Charlotte Gildersleeve or E.D.E.N. Southworth. Sounds like their kind of plot. Google them and see if anything sounds familiar?

The Well of Loneliness? Or maybe the one that was made into a movie with whatsername, with the no eyebrows and the funny name, it'll come to me..

Eta - orlando, tilda swinton.

Orlando with Tilda Swinton?

I find Tilda Swinton strangely attractive.

Ooh, I love Tilda Swinton!

Actually, I bet it is The Well of Loneliness you're thinking of, artemis. After The Bostonians it's most likely to be on a college curriculum.

I'm pretty sure it's the eyebrows. Or lack thereof.

Those are all good ideas.