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Old Mar 30, 2016, 11:20 AM
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My T has told me to have no contact with him unless it was for prescription refills or needing an increased dosage of a medication.

He told me that I need to work on my intense attachment and boundary issues.

I asked him if attachment issues should be worked on in therapy and he just took it as if I was arguing with him.

I told him that most Ts would work on attachment in therapy and he has just pushed me out of the boat.

I have an appointment with him on June 1 but I'm supposed to have no contact until then.

How is that helping with my attachment and boundary issues?

Or will the feelings lessen with the time that goes by and that's the lesson that he's trying to teach me?
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Old Mar 30, 2016, 11:31 AM
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Again, it sounds like your psychiatrist really doesn't want to function as your therapist; he seems to just want to deal with the med end of your treatment (which is what the vast majority of psychiatrists do anymore). Perhaps you need to find a regular therapist to work with regularly and that therapist may be able to work with you on your boundary issues. Your current psychiatrist (who pretty clearly doesn't intend to be your therapist) is telling you (unfortunately too indirectly) to find a therapist other than him.

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Old Mar 30, 2016, 11:34 AM
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I would not let one of them try teach me a lesson in that fashion.
Is there some other one you can see?
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Old Mar 30, 2016, 11:38 AM
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Questions?
Did you overstep known boundaries with the T?

Is this the reason?
If not then find another t who is more compassionate and understanding.

I have a DVD of a Pdoc story and his patients. One continuously tried to harm herself in front of him. He made her sign a boundaries contract.

She did it again and he made her get new Pdoc.

I think we are treated at their discretion, like if they don't accept certain insurance or expect cash payments. My Pdoc has a sign on her wall, that says she will not fill out any SSI papers.
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Old Mar 30, 2016, 12:01 PM
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As Lolagrace said, most pdocs these days refuse to do therapy. If you want a pdoc who does therapy, you really need to check ahead of time to be sure that you are hiring a profession who is willing and qualified to work in that way. Otherwise, yeah, you have to do what most of the rest of us do and find a therapist in addition to a pdoc.
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Old Mar 30, 2016, 12:13 PM
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My T is still willing to work with me but he knows I'm unemployed and doesn't want me to sacrifice anything in order to see him. I'm supposed to do paperwork tomorrow for a new job so hopefully I can start the new job next week.

My T said that when my cash flow improves, he'd still be there for me.
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Old Mar 30, 2016, 12:28 PM
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I really don't understand you insisting on seeing this pdoc as a therapist despite the fact he is not good, isn't helpful, doesn't want to provide therapy and in fact is damaging as TRIGGER you felt suicidal partially because of him and to top it off he is way too expensive as he charges you an arm and a leg yet doesn't help you!!!.

You honestly aren't getting any better with him. Is there any reason you won't try to see actual therapist? The one that will help you. Could you at least try to search for one? Where do you live? I think anyone is better than this dude

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Old Mar 30, 2016, 12:56 PM
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I did some T searching today and I saw a few possibilities of people I'd be interested in.
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Old Mar 30, 2016, 12:57 PM
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I guess the whole T search and having to open up to someone again is what is making me hesitate.
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Old Mar 30, 2016, 12:58 PM
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Plus, the other 2 Ts I tried to see ended up a disaster. One of them wouldn't call me back after I missed our initial session when I had pneumonia. He was someone I really wanted to see.
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Old Mar 30, 2016, 12:59 PM
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And last week, I emailed one for fees but didn't hear anything back.
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Plus, the other 2 Ts I tried to see ended up a disaster. One of them wouldn't call me back after I missed our initial session when I had pneumonia. He was someone I really wanted to see.
Maybe try to get an appt with him again. He doesn't know you, so he probably doesn't remember you were the one who missed the initial appt...unless you tell him.
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Old Mar 30, 2016, 09:00 PM
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My psychiatrist only does medication management.
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Old Mar 30, 2016, 09:07 PM
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Maybe try to get an appt with him again. He doesn't know you, so he probably doesn't remember you were the one who missed the initial appt...unless you tell him.
Agreed that you should try contacting him again. And for the one you e-mailed about fees, try calling instead. It just sounds like your p-doc isn't going to give you the help you want/need, so you'll need to look elsewhere.
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Old Mar 31, 2016, 02:42 AM
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Would he be willing to give you some recommendations for a therapist? Since he doesn't want to do therapy with you. Maybe just send him an email and ask if he knows of anyone who might be a good fit.

I get not wanting to have to explain to yet another therapist all your issues. Thats one of the reasons I stayed with my old one for so long even though I didn't feel it was helping me at all. But once I finally did tell him I didn't think it was working, he offered to talk to me new therapist (With my permission, we all had to sign a piece of paper) and just give him the basics so I wouldn't have to go over it all again. Do you think your psyc would be willing to do that?
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Old Mar 31, 2016, 05:49 AM
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I have never had a doc just a T. Recently he suggested a doc cause He felt my meds should be handled by one. I was like no thanks! Pill pushers are what they really are! sorry that is just my opinion. As for your doc he sounds like an ***! That is so mean to do that to someone who obviously needs his help. pisses me off Good luck hun
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Old Mar 31, 2016, 07:31 AM
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This is the problem (or at least one of the problems) with attachment problems and therapy......
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I really don't understand you insisting on seeing this pdoc as a therapist despite the fact he is not good, isn't helpful, doesn't want to provide therapy and in fact is damaging as TRIGGER you felt suicidal partially because of him and to top it off he is way too expensive as he charges you an arm and a leg yet doesn't help you!!!.

You honestly aren't getting any better with him. Is there any reason you won't try to see actual therapist? The one that will help you. Could you at least try to search for one? Where do you live? I think anyone is better than this dude

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Old Mar 31, 2016, 08:45 AM
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Do you mean that the person is too attached to be able to quit? I understand that.

But she isn't seeing him anyways as he is too expensive. It's either see no one or see somebody new. he could only see her in June. Between now and June it's two months. One can see someone else in between, someone on a sliding scale and cheaper, then she can go to see this doctor again in June if quitting him is too hard.

He might be trying to get rid of her as he knows of romantic feelings she has for him, but it would be more honest of him to tell her to find a different doctor than charge her 60 bucks for 15 minutes of nothing, she doesn't even work . He is an a...hole.

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My T has told me to have no contact with him unless it was for prescription refills or needing an increased dosage of a medication.

He told me that I need to work on my intense attachment and boundary issues.

I asked him if attachment issues should be worked on in therapy and he just took it as if I was arguing with him.

I told him that most Ts would work on attachment in therapy and he has just pushed me out of the boat.

I have an appointment with him on June 1 but I'm supposed to have no contact until then.

How is that helping with my attachment and boundary issues?

Or will the feelings lessen with the time that goes by and that's the lesson that he's trying to teach me?
Do you have a psychiatrist for medication, and a psychologist/therapist for counseling? If you are seeing a psychiatrist for ONLY medication management, she/he will only deal with issues pertaining to medication. Now if you were suicidal or homicidal that would be another issue. Otherwise, the psychiatrist should only be expected to handle issues pertaining to medication. The psychologist will handle all issues pertaining to therapy. Usually, the psychiatrist will make this very clear to their patients on the first visit.

So, if this is the case, he is expecting you to work with your psychologist on these attachment issues, even if the attachment issues involve your psychiatrist. I had a similar situation happen to me when I had a psychologist for therapy and a psychiatrist for medication management. I had problems with the psychiatrist and had to work through them with my psychologist because I only saw the psychologist for therapy. It was a difficult situation. I finally found a psychiatrist that does medication management and psychotherapy. I am just wondering if that might be what you are experiencing.
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Old Apr 01, 2016, 07:08 PM
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The good thing is it doesn't have to be a black or white decision because he js a pdoc. Quitting him entirely and getting someone new to prescribe would obviously be best, but can't you keep him for medication management and get a new T for therapy? Maybe someone female to keep romantic feelings down? And help you deal with your feelings for the current guy?
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Old Apr 01, 2016, 10:39 PM
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I think these are your options:

1.) You may want to find a psychiatrist that does both medication management and therapy. It doesn't sound like you trust this guy.

2.) If you don't have a psychologist, you could find one and keep the psychiatrist for medication management.

3.) Find a psychologist for therapy, and see your primary care physician for medication management. However, not all primary care doctors do this, so you would have to ask your primary doctor if this is possible.
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