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Old Nov 07, 2016, 12:19 AM
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Well damn. I have a really painful situation on my hands. My massage therapist who I've been seeing regularly since Feb and I have been having email exchanges for a while. She is very spiritual and we sort of bounce meditation ideas off each other, etc
.I can be a bit over sensitive to written stuff but I've been working on that and I totally thought it was a situation of mutual sharing and enjoyment.

So, it came as quite a painful shock at our session Wednesday night when she told me my emails were a "pain in the ***"

It was at the end and she had to go so no chance to.talk about it.

I contacted her about it Friday BC I was really hurt but I got some new agey stuff about "intention doesn't equal outcome" and how she would never say anything hurtful in purpose.

So I said, OK but it WAS really hurtful
It really hurt me.
And she just said she "wouldn't engage in negativity" with me.

I have so many issues around abandonment and being ashamed of my need for love its nearly crushed me into nonfunctional-ness.

And I can't tell.my T because 1. My T knows her and 2. I'm terrified now that my T feels the same as my massage therapist because I bother my T more.

So I'm just drowning in hurt and shame. I thought we were becoming friends. I've resorted to some very bad coping mechanisms.

I don't know what to do from here. She has some kind of training so.I won't see her for nearly 2 weeks. I obviously can't email.her. I don't know if I go back. If I just pretend it never happened...I hurt so.much I feel sick.

And I feel so ruined..like everything my mom ever said about me was right.

Its awful
Ugh. She is a jerk.
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Old Nov 07, 2016, 12:47 AM
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Old Nov 07, 2016, 12:48 AM
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OK Its not me. Its the head lecturer. The proper lecturer has turned up and has made everything more understandable. I, a nd a few others, were thinking we were stupid.
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Old Nov 07, 2016, 12:56 AM
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Sorry guys I should probably shut up and stay off in this current state. Don't mean to be such a damn crybaby.
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Old Nov 07, 2016, 01:03 AM
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You just had a major loss DD. Of course you should post here hugs!!
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Old Nov 07, 2016, 01:05 AM
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We were hugging goodbye and she said how she'd pry be incommunicado next week BC of her training seminars. I kind of sheepishly said "OK. I'll try not to be a pain" and she said "well, you aren't really a pain but your emails are a real.pain in the ***"

Then we said goodbye....
Sounds like she has some issue that's been eating at her and decided, hey, here's my chance! It was a bad moment to do it and a very bad way to express it.

I think this has very little to do with you at all. It's entirely possible that this is her way of addressing her internal conflicts with someone else - picking a moment where the other party can't really respond, so she's made her point, and doesn't have to get grief for it. Which is why her email responses are so defensive - she's not used to being called on her sh't.

I know it really hurts, but you can get through this. You've overcome so much already, and I know it's tiring but you've got the guts for it. It's like returning a kickoff 90 yards for a touchdown. And then you can sing:


Hail! To the victors valiant
Hail! To the conqu'ring heroes...


(That last bit was meant to make you smile a bit. Hope it did. If it didn't, unaluna is my scapegoat-designee. Speak to her.)
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Old Nov 07, 2016, 01:07 AM
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Sorry guys I should probably shut up and stay off in this current state. Don't mean to be such a damn crybaby.


You are not a crybaby and your feelings matter. They matter to you and they matter to me. We don't know each other personally, but I care about you and how you feel.

That is my true heart.
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Old Nov 07, 2016, 01:42 AM
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Forgive me if that was too personal. I'm working through some really not good things, and I wanted to lift you up. I hope that was ok.
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Old Nov 07, 2016, 01:49 AM
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Forgive me if that was too personal. I'm working through some really not good things, and I wanted to lift you up. I hope that was ok. Thank


You were fine no worries, if that was about your post to me.
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Old Nov 07, 2016, 02:02 AM
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DD I am sorry if maybe I sounded dismissive? It wasn't my intention. I just don't know how to help sometimes
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Old Nov 07, 2016, 02:07 AM
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DD I am sorry if maybe I sounded dismissive? It wasn't my intention. I just don't know how to help sometimes


What? You're fine. It's probably just me. I emailed T about all of my stuff. Hopefully she will email back tomorrow. We'll see.

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Old Nov 07, 2016, 03:01 AM
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Anyone else have insomnia? Thinking of going swimming - gym is 24/7.

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Old Nov 07, 2016, 03:22 AM
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Sleep has been a major issue...not if its insomnia, stress, grief or some combination.
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Old Nov 07, 2016, 03:36 AM
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I'm still up. Gonna try sleeping once more
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Old Nov 07, 2016, 04:03 AM
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Hope you both get some sleep.
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Old Nov 07, 2016, 04:28 AM
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Old Nov 07, 2016, 08:57 AM
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Phone session with my T in a few minutes. I should tell her what happened but I'm so ashamed that I'm not sure I can
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Old Nov 07, 2016, 09:03 AM
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Phone session with my T in a few minutes. I should tell her what happened but I'm so ashamed that I'm not sure I can
There is nothing for you to be ashamed about, Bay. It is definitely bothering you so go ahead and tell your T about it.
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Old Nov 07, 2016, 09:07 AM
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I'm a little late to the conversation but Bay I'm so sorry that happened with the massage therapist, that was a ****** thing to say, there's a lot better ways to go about it than that. And please don't be ashamed about it, I hope you were able to talk to t about it and that she was able to help. . Sending you safe hugs if you want them.
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Old Nov 07, 2016, 09:08 AM
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Okay, I'll be the murderer then!

Wait...doesn't SD write stories like that? Maybe we could put out an anthology?
Will poetry be included in the anthology? If so, count me in!
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Old Nov 07, 2016, 09:21 AM
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Also sending hugs out to whoever wants 'em as I head out to work! Since AZ doesn't participate in daylight savings time, our clocks didn't change over the weekend, work changes our shifts instead.... so now I go in at 8 instead of 7. Makes me happy, I hated getting up at 5:30!! Except I didn't do my morning pages this morning - sorry, t - I'll try to do them when I get to work instead. I'd been doing them every day since she suggested I start them again. They really are helpful, like a morning brain-dump that allows a fresh start to the day. Gotta go, catch y'all at lunchtime!
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Old Nov 07, 2016, 09:25 AM
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I actually looked. In the only full-length picture I have of her, her legs are partly obscured by a lectern.

If my mother knew I was discussing her legs on the internet, I would be sent to my room for at least a month.
Oh gawd.....Dietrich legs AND speaking at a lectern AND you said she's in her 70s? (Totally swoon-worthy)

Would it help if you told your mother that she has total strangers fixated on her legs......who've never seen her legs.....thanks to her daughter's description?

(I uhhh....spent a considerable time in college being obsessed with the description of Eustacia Vye's hands [Hardy's Return of the Native]).
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Old Nov 07, 2016, 09:59 AM
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Oh gawd.....Dietrich legs AND speaking at a lectern AND you said she's in her 70s? (Totally swoon-worthy)

Would it help if you told your mother that she has total strangers fixated on her legs......who've never seen her legs.....thanks to her daughter's description?

(I uhhh....spent a considerable time in college being obsessed with the description of Eustacia Vye's hands [Hardy's Return of the Native]).
Well, the picture dates actually back almost 30 years. And she was caught at a moment where she was shaking her fist. So it's a bit female banana-republic dictatorish.

I read Return of the Native and I did not notice anyone's hands...
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Old Nov 07, 2016, 10:04 AM
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Well if I tell her I'll need her to be on my side. I'd at least need her to take the position of " that was a very unkind thing to say"

I mean intellectually I know my T and I just discussed this and she said everything was fine.. I told massage therapist that she didn't have to reply if she was busy or whatever ....but who knows.
I'm so sorry your massage T said that to you--that's awful. I don't see how she could say it wasn't meant in a hurtful/negative way.

A few months ago, my T told me that my e-mails were getting to be "too much," that I was expecting too much of her time. This really hurt and upset me. So I get it. Since then, we've talked a bunch about it and basically repaired things, though I was still nervous about how she'd react when I contacted her multiple times the past two weeks because I was upset about some stuff going on with H (and MC). But she was fine about it, I think because she knew how much distress I was in, and I wasn't just calling or e-mailing just to e-mail.

I would say to talk to your massage T, but it sounds like she's trying to use the new-agey talk to avoid actually apologizing or admitting she did something wrong. I'd talk to your T about it first. Since your T knows her, maybe she'd have suggestions on how to "deal" with her?

I agree that it should be fine to talk to your T about it, even though she knows massage T. I've certainly said negative things about my marriage counselor to T and vice versa, and they work in the same practice and are friends. Your T should keep what you said confidential.

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Old Nov 07, 2016, 10:13 AM
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I'm so sorry your massage T said that to you--that's awful. I don't see how she could say it wasn't meant in a hurtful/negative way.

A few months ago, my T told me that my e-mails were getting to be "too much," that I was expecting too much of her time. This really hurt and upset me. So I get it. Since then, we've talked a bunch about it and basically repaired things, though I was still nervous about how she'd react when I contacted her multiple times the past two weeks because I was upset about some stuff going on with H (and MC). But she was fine about it, I think because she knew how much distress I was in, and I wasn't just calling or e-mailing just to e-mail.

I would say to talk to your massage T, but it sounds like she's trying to use the new-agey talk to avoid actually apologizing or admitting she did something wrong. I'd talk to your T about it first. Since your T knows her, maybe she'd have suggestions on how to "deal" with her?

I agree that it should be fine to talk to your T about it, even though she knows massage T. I've certainly said negative things about my marriage counselor to T and vice versa, and they work in the same practice and are friends. Your T should keep what you said confidential.

I'm not worried about confidentiality. I know my T will keep it private. I just know she thinks massage T is a really great person so I'm very afraid she will agree with her.
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