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Old May 22, 2017, 10:11 PM
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I've been struggling lately a lot at my appts with my therapist and pdoc. I've been very depressed, and my meds are being adjusted.

At each appt, my therapist and pdoc ask if I'm suicidal, and I say no. But the answer is yes. I think of it constantly but I am not actively planning anything.

I'm afraid to admit the truth because I'm afraid of what could happen. Also saying yes in some way makes it too real.

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Old May 22, 2017, 10:14 PM
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Med adjustments can fuel suicidality. Had a friend experience that recently. Please tell your clinicians. If a medication is causing it, going off it and adding or increasing a mood stabilizer can help. But your psychiatrist would have to make that judgment call.

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Old May 22, 2017, 10:44 PM
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I never did years ago when I had a lot of suicidal thoughts. Like you, was afraid of what would happen.

But now I tell them pretty much everything and answer honestly. They need to have the full picture to choose the best treatment.
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Old May 22, 2017, 10:49 PM
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I have not lied to the woman as far as I can recall. I have refused to answer
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Old May 22, 2017, 11:18 PM
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I have learned the hard way not to. I don't lie so much as I don't answer, answer circuitously and sophistically, or simply don't volunteer information.
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Old May 22, 2017, 11:23 PM
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I didn't out and out lie as much as just not shared until I started to feel I could trust her not to act on me saying I am having thoughts. There were times where she'd ask about my safety. I would answer honestly then. And one point she made me promise to call the on call doc if I starting having impulsive thoughts around suicide.
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Old May 22, 2017, 11:58 PM
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I'm very open and honest with my T about anything. Some things take me a little while to say, but I will say it in the end.
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Old May 23, 2017, 06:05 AM
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With T I once tried to avoid her question about two years ago by changing the subject (not about SU). She told me we could change the subject but that in itself answered her question. She has also learned to read my body language and facial expressions so even when I try to figure away around the truth. When it comes to SU I know I can be honest with her as she trusts that if I ever felt the urge to act on it I would contact her or track out to somebody for help.

With proc I use to really minimize and say something like not really rather than answer yes or no.niw if she asks I still don't say yes but rather "nothing that I would act on" which is very truthful. As I have thoughts occasionally but never would follow through.
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Old May 23, 2017, 07:59 AM
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I have never found those people to be as good at knowing why someone changes the subject or doesn't answer a question as they think they are. ( not suicide in my case either. I am really direct about how I feel about death ). I've never had one that guessed correctly despite their smug statements about whatever it is they think they know. This is not because I'm somehow special, it's because they are crap at it.
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Old May 23, 2017, 08:35 AM
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I don't lie to my T but I will occassionally minimize something. In the past I've just not told a T something but with my current T, I'm pretty open with her. I was referred to her by my old T who was moving and she new that, at the time, I was having suicidal thoughts. I signed a release so they could share notes so I knew that my new T knew before I even walked into her office. She asked me anyway and I couldn't lie because she already knew.

It's definitely been better for me to just tell them. My T's have all been really great about not freaking out and understanding that I wasn't actually at risk of hurting myself.
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Old May 23, 2017, 08:44 AM
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There are things that I'm not honest about and other things that I don't mention. It's not because I don't trust my T. I don't want to be judged eventhough she says that she doesn't judge. There are times that I also don't want to disappoint her with my progress. I struggle with things and I try to find ways around it. She does her part to help but I know from the past that when I don't make progress then she gets frustrated and things don't end well. I feel the need to make her think that I'm doing okay. I don't tell her the truth about my struggles. I do mention that I've struggled a bit but I'm trying to get on the right path.

I'm hoping that at some point I can just be honest and not care what anyone thinks.
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Old May 23, 2017, 08:54 AM
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I try not to outright lie, but I do sometimes lie by omission or by silence.
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Old May 23, 2017, 08:47 PM
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I don't tell them, but somehow he figures it out usually before the end of the session and we end up talking about it. When I'm really suicidal, I'm never worried about being hospitalized. I've been there, and it's a relief to me when I'm suicidal because then I don't have to focus so much energy on being safe. So I'm not worried anymore when it comes out that I'm having suicidal thoughts. I think most people's worst case scenario isn't bad for me.

But I don't bring up suicidal thoughts by myself. If he brings it up, I'll talk about it but won't say much, just the bare truth.
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Old May 24, 2017, 02:55 AM
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I just say I don't know but then I avoid and I always end up telling the truth which I hate cause sometimes I am sectioned for suicidal plans
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Old May 24, 2017, 03:28 AM
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Old May 24, 2017, 06:56 AM
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Pretty much. It was counter-productive to do otherwise.
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Old May 24, 2017, 07:51 AM
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I put it all out there pretty much, not that it does much good. I might as well keep some stuff to myself.

In your case, I wouldn't worry what they might do if you were open about those thoughts. They hear that stuff all the time.
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