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View Poll Results: Have you hugged your t?
Yes, and it was during termination 2 2.20%
Yes, and it was during termination
2 2.20%
Yes, and they are the same sex 21 23.08%
Yes, and they are the same sex
21 23.08%
Yes, and they are the opposite sex 18 19.78%
Yes, and they are the opposite sex
18 19.78%
No, and I dont want to 33 36.26%
No, and I dont want to
33 36.26%
No, but I want to 17 18.68%
No, but I want to
17 18.68%
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Old Dec 14, 2017, 02:56 PM
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What on earth is a frame hug?
Toyota's emblem is a bull when looked at closely. Acura's emblem is an "A-framed" H (A)--Acura being a division of Honda.

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What on earth is a frame hug?
An A-frame hug is when you stand rather far apart and hug with nothing below the shoulders touching. It's rather unnatural.

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Old Dec 14, 2017, 03:46 PM
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An A-frame hug is when you stand rather far apart and hug with nothing below the shoulders touching. It's rather unnatural.

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Exactly. "A-framed" hugs are conservative formalities of the prim and proper, they are manifestations of the guarded personality, the secret sexuality and curt distances.

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Old Dec 14, 2017, 04:56 PM
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Yes a frame hug is super awkward looking but it's most recommended for therapy hugs. Especially involving opposite sex t and client. However we do and have for 6 months a full frontal body hug. Whoops lol
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Old Dec 14, 2017, 05:11 PM
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My T is too short that we have no choice but to do an A-frame hug...lol
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Old Dec 14, 2017, 05:58 PM
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An A-frame hug is when you stand rather far apart and hug with nothing below the shoulders touching. It's rather unnatural.

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Unfortunately i have an "O" frame and it fills in all the empty space between!5
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Old Dec 14, 2017, 06:01 PM
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Unfortunately i have an "O" frame and it fills in all the empty space between!5
:Hugging your THugging your THugging your THugging your T:
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Old Dec 14, 2017, 06:28 PM
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Yes a frame hug is super awkward looking but it's most recommended for therapy hugs. Especially involving opposite sex t and client. However we do and have for 6 months a full frontal body hug. Whoops lol
My T who hugs like this is same sex.
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Old Dec 14, 2017, 09:45 PM
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I like this video on the types of hugs narrated by Morgan Freeman



Yeah a frames are kind of the “you’re not quite my friend” hug. Butts to the wind!!

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I like this video on the types of hugs narrated by Morgan Freeman



Yeah a frames are kind of the “you’re not quite my friend” hug. Butts to the wind!!
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I have no idea what kind of hugs we do... But I don't think it's an A-frame?
We make eye contact whilst disengaging (I like it) and he pats my back (I don't really like it, because a hug without patting seems to be more comforting. I'd prefer rubbing )
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Old Dec 14, 2017, 11:46 PM
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Lol thanks! I don't think I've ever been framed by anyone.
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Old Dec 15, 2017, 12:41 AM
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I picked 'no, but i want to' - except it's not really the adult part that wants to, it's a kid part. T doesn't hug so it'll never happen (though we do use a couple other forms of touch), but that doesn't stop the 6-year old part from really wanting one.
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Old Dec 15, 2017, 07:54 AM
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I picked 'no, but i want to' - except it's not really the adult part that wants to, it's a kid part. T doesn't hug so it'll never happen (though we do use a couple other forms of touch), but that doesn't stop the 6-year old part from really wanting one.
Therapeutic. I'm a male. I'm one of five brothers. When two of us would fight, my mom (a single mother) gave the two of us a "whoopin'" then made us hug and kiss ("A-frame" hug and a smooch) to make up--tears buggers and all. Almost invariably my T's are male and P's are either gender. While some reason might occur, I've never experienced a moment in therapy that I desired to hug a T or a P of any gender. To me hugs are like handshakes for close females and long lost best buds--hugs are greetings. A light rub, pat and easy shove (softer than one would a child on training wheels) to the back urges one on his or her way at session's end. Voilá, client back in the game.

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Old Dec 15, 2017, 08:42 AM
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I picked 'no, but i want to' - except it's not really the adult part that wants to, it's a kid part. T doesn't hug so it'll never happen (though we do use a couple other forms of touch), but that doesn't stop the 6-year old part from really wanting one.
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Old Dec 15, 2017, 08:55 AM
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I'm a woman and I've hugged a former T, only about twice and only when she became my former T. She initiated the hug since I hadn't seen her in a while, this was in the clinic. I wasn't expecting it since I assumed T's weren't allowed to hug. I recently hugged her because again I hadn't seen her in a while. I think she remembered my first confusion when she hugged me the previous time. I initiated the hug this time and she seemed a tiny bit surprised by it but welcomed it. My mom was with me and she hugged my former T also, which my former T seemed less surprised by. I have not hugged my current T, I've only seen her for about a month or so. She seems pretty professional but we have a friendly rapport, so I could see her hugging me if I cry or something . I don't see myself initiating the hug since I don't really crave hugs or even physical interactions. I've only recently become a bit more affectionate with my mother, which she complained about.
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Old Dec 15, 2017, 09:07 AM
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I feel the same
Between 3 and 6 years of age (oedipus rex) a boy is about doing away with dad and having mom all to himself and vice versa little girls. Unless a T is a sex T, the desire to hug said T seems a regressive distraction.
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I'm a woman and I've hugged a former T, only about twice and only when she became my former T. She initiated the hug since I hadn't seen her in a while, this was in the clinic. I wasn't expecting it since I assumed T's weren't allowed to hug. I recently hugged her because again I hadn't seen her in a while. I think she remembered my first confusion when she hugged me the previous time. I initiated the hug this time and she seemed a tiny bit surprised by it but welcomed it. My mom was with me and she hugged my former T also, which my former T seemed less surprised by. I have not hugged my current T, I've only seen her for about a month or so. She seems pretty professional but we have a friendly rapport, so I could see her hugging me if I cry or something . I don't see myself initiating the hug since I don't really crave hugs or even physical interactions. I've only recently become a bit more affectionate with my mother, which she complained about.
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Between 3 and 6 years of age (oedipus rex) a boy is about doing away with dad and having mom all to himself and vice versa little girls. Unless a T is a sex T, the desire to hug said T seems a regressive distraction.
You know, Freud wasn't right all the time. Besides, that explanation completely ignores same-sex hugs. I personally haven't ever felt the desire to hug a male clinician, but females are a different story. Not everything is about sex. I think it's more often about just wanting some physical comforting than some sort of complicated unconscious desire.
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Old Dec 15, 2017, 11:16 AM
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You know, Freud wasn't right all the time. Besides, that explanation completely ignores same-sex hugs. I personally haven't ever felt the desire to hug a male clinician, but females are a different story. Not everything is about sex. I think it's more often about just wanting some physical comforting than some sort of complicated unconscious desire.
There is a same sex reality and possibly several same sex realities. But first I have never had a therapy session center on a hug or hugs. I understand hugs to indicate "warm fuzzies." Same sex warm fuzziness consciously screams self love and love of self whispers of narcissism or possibly homosexual tendencies. The love of self is proper and homosexuality is a valid and recognized sexual orientation.
Narcissism can be complicated but it is treatable. So Freud wasn't always right and everything is not sexual. However, one must eat to survive and one must survive to have sex and one must have sex to sustain and propagate the human population. Everything else is extrapyramidial. All of this in a same sex hug. As a child man's first love was a woman, as a child woman's first love was a woman. Woman, the first harbor of life and first server of nutrition.

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We emotionally hug. That can feel more closer and longer lasting.
I absolutely agree with you. I get hugged emotionally too & it is incredibly powerful.
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I think there will always be a risk of regretting giving a hug or not giving a hug but when I sum it up I personally see more negatives in initiating or asking for hugs instead of just a handshake or "nothing", just a simple "goodbye" or "hello" if itīs in the beginning of a session.

I donīt see anything wrong with hugging a therapist if both the client and therapist feels itīs a good way to connect, to greet each other or similar. But to me personally I know my regrets would be huge if I'd showed fondness by giving my therapist a hug and then suddenly we donīt get along anymore.

Then a more formal handshake is more appropriate as you can do a handshake even if you donīt get along that well anymore.


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Of course. I used to try keep my options open. Something better might come along and I'm not being committed if it does. As I get older the if in my previous construct grows bigger and bigger. And regrets, regrets I dread like a bad hair day. I've reduced the number of regets in my heart or head about my early years, but regrets I dread creating new ones. Hugs or no hugs, open options with no regrets? Is that a rude life strategy? I don't intend to be rude.
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I dont think hugs are about sex to me at all. Maybe about love, but there are so many kinds of love... Love gives me something for the soul, while sex is physical. I know it can form a bond, but to me, there's no physical satisfaction without love.
So, hugging my T is related to love but not to sex.
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Old Dec 15, 2017, 06:49 PM
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I dont think hugs are about sex to me at all. Maybe about love, but there are so many kinds of love... Love gives me something for the soul, while sex is physical. I know it can form a bond, but to me, there's no physical satisfaction without love.
So, hugging my T is related to love but not to sex.
So we need to love our surgeons, our butchers, our bakers, and other providers of goods and services? We certainly need or prefer at least a small degree of intimacy with each of these? Do we hug the butcher who provides us with exceptional cuts of meat? And what of the grocer? Do we love him as well?
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