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Old Aug 01, 2024, 05:47 PM
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Once as a professor and once as a student I walked to campus through big storms—which both turned out to be the eye of a hurricane—on the assumption it was just a storm and we had classes. Nope.
I have never done this -but I do get the nightmares about not finding my class or teaching the wrong group of students or losing all their final exams.
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Old Aug 01, 2024, 06:07 PM
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I think of what ex-T said once about relationships, though at the time, it was about me and H: How sometimes you need to turn up the heat in a relationship to move it forward--not like in a sexual way, but to express the anger, have a fight, etc. Maybe that's true here? And if it can't survive that, then I imagine it wasn't as strong as it seemed in the first place.
Sure, but back to Ross and Rachel: they were at least in the same relationship. You and Dr T are not--each of you is defining relationship and what it should be differently.

Expressing the anger makes sense in a marriage when you're fighting on basically equal grounds. In this relationship, you're not fighting on equal grounds.
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Old Aug 01, 2024, 06:24 PM
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I have never done this -but I do get the nightmares about not finding my class or teaching the wrong group of students or losing all their final exams.

i have similar nightmares, but as a student. Realizing I haven't gone to class all semester and will fail or that I haven't read a book and need to take an exam on it. Or not having my schedule and being unable to find the classroom.
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Old Aug 01, 2024, 06:29 PM
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Sure, but back to Ross and Rachel: they were at least in the same relationship. You and Dr T are not--each of you is defining relationship and what it should be differently.

Expressing the anger makes sense in a marriage when you're fighting on basically equal grounds. In this relationship, you're not fighting on equal grounds.

Oh, that's a good point. Something that's complicated here is that I see Dr. T as an authority figure. He seems to see himself as more of an equal. Yet, he can exert authority over me, like, "I'd prefer you not keep the appointment with R." I'm not able to exert authority over him, unless leaving could be considered authority, or I guess reporting him, but I'm not sure he's done anything actually reportable (not looking for anyone to say whether he has or has not).

And there's the transference/attachment stuff from my end that gives him more power, too. As things he says/does can affect me in a way that, say, a friend wouldn't, as they're in a different role for me (though I could conceivably have paternal/maternal transference for a friend, too).
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The move out fees is how much we owe the apartment complex for cleaning, paint, carpet, and junk removal. The deposit is the security deposit that only applies to H and I because my dad didn't contribute. H and I owe 2/3 because we're 2 out of 3 people. My dad is responsible for his 1/3.

So move out fees is $2100. Security deposit is $500. And his junk fee is $400. Again, H and I get the security deposit taken off our debt. And dad has to pay for his own junk removal.

So the question is do I remove the security deposit and junk removal fee from our debt and then times 2/3? Or is it reverse?

Sorry this is so confusing!!!
OK so he did not contribute to the $500 deposit so he gets none of that. The move out fee of $2100 is split 3 ways so he owes $700 of that plus his $400 junk fee totaling $1100.

You and H owe the remaining $1400 of the move out fee with the $500 deposit subtracted from it coming to a total of $900 that you owe.

This is based on total owed of $2100 move out fee plus $400 junk fee which equals $2500. Minus the $500 deposit leaving a total of $2000 owed.
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Old Aug 01, 2024, 07:26 PM
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Zoiecat - yes. I cannot figure out if the moving fee would have been 1700 if dads junk removal fee had not been added in, or it it really 2500? Otherwise i am treating it like his deposit.

Its not really a math problem, its who is responsible for dads junk fee, and does the apartment complex consider that part of the "moving fee"?
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Old Aug 01, 2024, 07:40 PM
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Zoiecat, I think that might be right?

Una, the $400 is already included in the $2100.
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Old Aug 01, 2024, 07:48 PM
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Thanks, Lemon. I think I may do that, possibly keep my next Friday session, but it would still give me a week. And, well, I could decide about that session with 24 hours notice. I can do that with any of them, but I'd rather just say "I need a week--please take me off for Monday and Wednesday" than keep deciding 24 hours in advance.

I'll sleep on it. I don't want to cancel sessions then attempt to reschedule and have nothing be available (especially as one time, he said he was tempted to not reschedule me for spite, but he realized that would be immature).

It also bothered me that at first, he questioned my saying I might be in a major depressive episode. I said I was picking up Zoloft (SSRI) later today, and he was like, "That's for longer-term use, not an acute episode." And I was like, "I think this has been going on for some time." I wanted to be like, "Yes, I'm familiar with Zoloft, moron--I was on it for a few years while I was seeing you in the past."

He did seem more compassionate when I was describing symptoms unrelated to him/the move in the last few months. (Like more trouble sleeping than usual, not feeling enthusiastic about things I generally like to do, lack of motivation and energy, etc.)I said that maybe the stuff with the move was a symptom, not the cause. He seemed to agree about the idea of depression in the end. But should I have to try to convince my therapist that I'm depressed?
Taking a week to think things over could provide the clarity you need. It's frustrating to feel like you have to convince your therapist about your own mental health. If you decide to keep your Friday session, it might be helpful to express how this experience made you feel and discuss the best way forward.

You also don’t have to keep putting yourself in situations where you leave feeling unheard and more triggered .
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Old Aug 02, 2024, 01:39 AM
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Old Aug 02, 2024, 07:21 AM
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Old Aug 02, 2024, 07:45 AM
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Zoiecat, I think that might be right?

Una, the $400 is already included in the $2100.
If the $2100 includes the $400 junk fee then it is different.

Dad owes $400 plus one third of the remaining move out fee of $1700 which is $567. So dad owes $967 total.

The remainder of the move out fee which you and H are responsible for is $1133. Subtracting the $500 deposit leaves $633 that you need to pay.

I think that should be correct based on the new info you provided.
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Old Aug 02, 2024, 08:40 AM
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Thats a lot of methane! I think we just found the source of global warming!
I thought that was you all by your lonesome?
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Old Aug 02, 2024, 09:00 AM
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I thought that was you all by your lonesome?
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Old Aug 02, 2024, 10:20 AM
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Because the apostrophe is implied in spoken Yorkshire dialect, I have never given much thought to how it might be written down.

I definitely think there's a good argument for keeping it.
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Old Aug 02, 2024, 04:16 PM
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Us Derbyshire folk are far more efficient with our language. No need for apostrophes or contractions, our minds are on more important matters like whether Bakewell tart should be served cold or warm. "Gerrit in bin duckie" Is all we need. Simple. Like us.
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LT, I didnt read all the Dr. T posts. I saw the session wasn’t great and how a week away may help you decide what to do going forward. I’m wondering if after the week away..if reducing sessions will help. Like maybe not completely walking away but perhaps only 1 a week. I often wonder if it’s just too much to go more than once a week because then it’s not giving you enough space to process what went on the previous session. Like it’s just endless processing and always just anticipating the next session just a couple of days away. It’s like it doesn’t give you time to just slow down a little before the next one. You know?
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@LonesomeTonight, I know R rents office space from Dr T, but I'm not sure that gives him the right to forbid her to work with you!?

If you want to have her as your therapist and she wants to work with you as her client, that should be good enough.

The only downside I can see is maybe the potential for running into him when you're there to see R, that could be awkward perhaps, but if you can live with that, I don't see it as a conflict of interest.

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LT, I didnt read all the Dr. T posts. I saw the session wasn’t great and how a week away may help you decide what to do going forward. I’m wondering if after the week away..if reducing sessions will help. Like maybe not completely walking away but perhaps only 1 a week. I often wonder if it’s just too much to go more than once a week because then it’s not giving you enough space to process what went on the previous session. Like it’s just endless processing and always just anticipating the next session just a couple of days away. It’s like it doesn’t give you time to just slow down a little before the next one. You know?
Thanks, Jersey. I do think I'm probably keeping my Monday appointment now (we had a brief email exchange). But I was having a similar thought about dropping at least to twice a week for now (I generally go three times--was working on reducing at one point, then life stuff happened), then maybe one sometime in the future. What you mention is part of it, but his not being particularly available lately made me realize that I've become dependent on his availability. And I don't want to be that way.

One part of the exchange (just one email each--well, aside from a thanks email from me) was also about working on other ways to help me cope with strong emotions. Which is something I'd realized on my own (as I'd tried many things that weren't working), but he also mentioned. So we're going to talk about that. It could involve, say, my going to a DBT group and/or focusing on other methods.

Maybe in some way, this whole experience will ultimately help me to move forward and become better at coping on my own and with the support of those in my outside life (though I did get lots of support on here and from a couple friends this past week). Like it's serving as a wake-up call that relying on him (and R) is not a long-term, fail-proof strategy.
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Old Aug 02, 2024, 06:19 PM
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@LonesomeTonight, I know R rents office space from Dr T, but I'm not sure that gives him the right to forbid her to work with you!?

If you want to have her as your therapist and she wants to work with you as her client, that should be good enough.

The only downside I can see is maybe the potential for running into him when you're there to see R, that could be awkward perhaps, but if you can live with that, I don't see it as a conflict of interest.

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Thanks, East. I know he said at one point that it would inappropriate for her to work with me if I stopped seeing him. He's also said it would damage their relationship, which, I mean, I don't really care about? I just think she might defer to him if he didn't want her to work with me. I may be wrong. I probably should have asked her about it during our session--and I was tempted to email her about it yesterday after my session, but didn't (note that they don't have my permission to talk about me--they did early on, but I formally rescinded it).

But I agree that he shouldn't be able to forbid my seeing her. I feel he should ideally want what's best for me--he's said that before, if I wanted to switch to a different T in general. But he seems to have some hangup about me working with her in particular.

Oh, in our exchange today, he did admit that part of the blame is on him for not talking to me about his concerns regarding her sooner. So that's something, I guess...
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What are your goals for therapy in general?

Three times a week is very intense, more common in traditional psychoanalysis or psychodynamic.Unless you are in an active crisis mode, you need to see that you already are capable of dealing with your emotions.

I do think session reduction would be beneficial and teach you resilience, but also confidence in yourself .

You can learn some aspects of DBT like grounding and self soothing techniques on YouTube too instead of waiting to start a class.

You just need to start building up your window of tolerance to distress, before emailing him. This is not impossible.
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